John Ross tearing up Adore Jackson

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he hasn't slipped like that in any other tape I watched. People just have to come to grips that he's a first rounder. Only way he slides to round 2 is if Kevin King/Conley fall to us which is unlikely, and even then he'll be taken very early in round 2
Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at all if he was drafted. Like I said before he could start off in nickel and dime packages and return kicks and punts and take over for that quick sweep that Lucky runs on offense and would free up a spot on the 45 active roster by knocking Lucky off the team. I think it would be a very good pick.
 

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Folks shouldn't get baited into making snap judgements based one game, let alone one play. Jackson clearly was respecting Ross' speed which allowed some easy receptions underneath. He got shook off the LOS for the 70-yarder; as Jackson later tweeted out "it happens." What shouldn't be missed is the fact Jackson tallied two interceptions that game, including the game-clinching pick.

 

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Against Notre Dame the last two years, I have seen Adoree Jackson get beaten badly deep by both Will Fuller and Kevin Stepherson for touchdowns. Jackson needs a lot of technical work on playing corner. He is not a walk in starter at the position.

As a special teamer, he's as good as Devin Hester was coming out of Miami.
 

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Against Notre Dame the last two years, I have seen Adoree Jackson get beaten badly deep by both Will Fuller and Kevin Stepherson for touchdowns. Jackson needs a lot of technical work on playing corner. He is not a walk in starter at the position.

As a special teamer, he's as good as Devin Hester was coming out of Miami.

This is what scares me and what also makes me think we will draft him.

Jack of many trades ... still raw at corner. Flashy multiple position guy for Jerry
 

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Wait, a guy got burnt by the most explosive receiver at the college level?

No way.

And honestly, it looks like most of Ross' yards and the only time Adoree got "burnt" was on a blown coverage.

Yawn. I think Conley actually gave up more big plays than Adoree has.

King got the benefit of covering #2's with one of the best college FS in the game.

Whole lotta nuffin'
 
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Thought this was good tape on Adoree. Ross is their number one threat and I thought Adoree played him well. Lots of off coverage, gave up one and got that back and more in this game. looked like USC formation wanted to allow the underneath stuff.
 

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Against Notre Dame the last two years, I have seen Adoree Jackson get beaten badly deep by both Will Fuller and Kevin Stepherson for touchdowns. Jackson needs a lot of technical work on playing corner. He is not a walk in starter at the position.

As a special teamer, he's as good as Devin Hester was coming out of Miami.
He got beat on a double move because HE WANTS TO MAKE PLAYS! I know Cowboy fans forgot what that looked like from a cb but it happens. Will Fuller beat him straight up but I don't want to hear about that bum nd wr who had that one catch on him.
 
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He got beat on a double move because HE WANTS TO MAKE PLAYS! I know Cowboy fans forgot what that looked like from a cb but it happens. Will Fuller beat him straight up but I don't want to hear about that bum nd wr who had that one catch on him.

Are you trying to say that he won't see a double move in the NFL? And ones run by actual NFL receivers, not a freshman named Kevin Stepherson, who likely won't be an NFL player?

That play exposed the biggest weakness of Jackson - he's a "clueur". He guesses out on the field rather than reading. When he's right, he can pick off some passes. When he's wrong, he gets beat over the top. It shows that he doesn't study film and tendencies well. It may work in college where he's a far superior athlete to many of the guys he lines up against, but against NFL wideouts, he'll be taken behind the woodshed. I would compare Jackson to Janoris Jenkins when he first came into the NFL - another guy who guessed a lot and got burned a lot. Jenkins has since learned how to study film, and he's become a much more sound player. It remains to be seen whether Jackson can do the same thing.

Walking through the door, though, Jackson is an elite, electric return guy. Not sure if the Cowboys would put him back there if they select him, though, because they didn't with Terence Newman, and Newman was outstanding as a returner at Kansas State.
 

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Jackson with the late 2nd would be a nice pick.

Let some other team become enamoured early-mid 2nd, but take a shot on him at 60 if he's still there.

Adoree is a natural at the CB position and his return skills could be special.
 

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Are you trying to say that he won't see a double move in the NFL? And ones run by actual NFL receivers, not a freshman named Kevin Stepherson, who likely won't be an NFL player?

That play exposed the biggest weakness of Jackson - he's a "clueur". He guesses out on the field rather than reading. When he's right, he can pick off some passes. When he's wrong, he gets beat over the top. It shows that he doesn't study film and tendencies well. It may work in college where he's a far superior athlete to many of the guys he lines up against, but against NFL wideouts, he'll be taken behind the woodshed. I would compare Jackson to Janoris Jenkins when he first came into the NFL - another guy who guessed a lot and got burned a lot. Jenkins has since learned how to study film, and he's become a much more sound player. It remains to be seen whether Jackson can do the same thing.

Walking through the door, though, Jackson is an elite, electric return guy. Not sure if the Cowboys would put him back there if they select him, though, because they didn't with Terence Newman, and Newman was outstanding as a returner at Kansas State.
I'm saying a double move is about discipline which is what coaching is for. And don't compare Newman punt returning to Adoree please.
 

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He got beat on a double move because HE WANTS TO MAKE PLAYS! I know Cowboy fans forgot what that looked like from a cb but it happens. Will Fuller beat him straight up but I don't want to hear about that bum nd wr who had that one catch on him.

He got beat by Fuller more than once in that game. He gave Fuller space and got toasted twice. He tried to bump him at the line on another play and gave Fuller a release and got burned on another deep ball where he had to interfere with Fuller to prevent a TD.

He needs a lot of technique work. He's a risk at 28 IMO. A big risk. He spends a lot of time out there thinking his athleticism can overcome his bad technique and poor positioning at times. He's going to see a lot more Will Fuller types and elite WRs in this league than he saw in college.

I'd consider him at 60 or if we traded back from 28, but I wouldn't touch him at 28. Too big a risk.
 

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He got beat by Fuller more than once in that game. He gave Fuller space and got toasted twice. He tried to bump him at the line on another play and gave Fuller a release and got burned on another deep ball where he had to interfere with Fuller to prevent a TD.

He needs a lot of technique work. He's a risk at 28 IMO. A big risk. He spends a lot of time out there thinking his athleticism can overcome his bad technique and poor positioning at times. He's going to see a lot more Will Fuller types and elite WRs in this league than he saw in college.

I'd consider him at 60 or if we traded back from 28, but I wouldn't touch him at 28. Too big a risk.
A lot more will fullers? There's prob 5 WRs than ran 4.3 that start in the league right now. Fuller didn't do anything but beat him with pure speed. Only guy in the division with speed like that is Beckham and he isn't even as fast as Fuller.
 

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A lot more will fullers? There's prob 5 WRs than ran 4.3 that start in the league right now. Fuller didn't do anything but beat him with pure speed. Only guy in the division with speed like that is Beckham and he isn't even as fast as Fuller.

The point being he's going to see a lot more high quality WR types in the NFL than he saw in college and he won't be able to just use his athleticism to "get by". That's the risk with Jackson. He showed little technique or positioning in college and got by simply because he was often the best athlete on the field in a game. It's not just speed either. He struggles at bumping guys and jamming guys.

Given that, he's too big a risk at 28.
 

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I'm saying a double move is about discipline which is what coaching is for. And don't compare Newman punt returning to Adoree please.

Terence Newman punt returns while at KSU - 27 returns, 417 yards, 15.4 YPR, 3 TDs
Adoree Jackson punt returns while at USC - 46 returns, 578 yards, 12.6 YPR, 4 TDs

Still think that there is no comparison?
 

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Terence Newman punt returns while at KSU - 27 returns, 417 yards, 15.4 YPR, 3 TDs
Adoree Jackson punt returns while at USC - 46 returns, 578 yards, 12.6 YPR, 4 TDs

Still think that there is no comparison?
Yeah.
 

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The point being he's going to see a lot more high quality WR types in the NFL than he saw in college and he won't be able to just use his athleticism to "get by". That's the risk with Jackson. He showed little technique or positioning in college and got by simply because he was often the best athlete on the field in a game. It's not just speed either. He struggles at bumping guys and jamming guys.

Given that, he's too big a risk at 28.

To be fair, everyone at 28 sucks at bumping and jamming guys, and they all gave up big plays. Probably the most technically sound at 28 would be Awuzie, seriously.

From what I've watched on him I think his technique was underrated. He's a good CB that got used all over the place on ST and offense, and still was pretty damn good at CB.
 
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