Johnny Manziel and RGIII mega thread **merged**
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That's not enough dirt from Manziel's hole, Mr. King. Dig deeper. Six feet or more is appropriate for caskets.
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What has he ever done to make anyone think he can be successful running a Pro Offense? He is a one read then run QB, only he can't run, he can't pass from the pocket and he can't read defenses. Other than that, he should do just fine.
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The player he was his first year was a guy too stupid to read a defense so his coaches allowed him to run around and make easy reads to one side of the field.
He didn't regress. That just wasn't sustainable.
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Neither seems like they can physically, or mentally handle the position....
could be wrong.... I hope we draft a qb...
could be wrong.... I hope we draft a qb...
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David Moore on what he'd give up to get Johnny Manziel; why Greg Hardy will get a second-tier contract at best in free agency
Horn: "People want to hear about the future. People want to hear about the quarterback of the future for the Dallas Cowboys. Is it a possibility [Johnny Manziel] will be here?"
Moore: "I find it hard to believe given all of the focus on this when you have this much talk on a guy under contract to another team. Certainly Cleveland, I think, it's fair to say that Johnny Manziel's brief, tumultuous tenure in Cleveland will come to an end this offseason. Clearly Dallas will be a team they will call and say, 'We know you guys are interested. What would you guys be interested in giving up?' I don't know that it's going to proceed much beyond there. If you invested in a first-round pick and he wants to leave are you going to move him to where he's wanted to go all along? You do if it's still in the best interest of the club. I just don't know. With so much that we've heard about this season and saw this season that this team was unable to win with a backup quarterback. So now you're going to have to step back and look at the system that you're running. Is it compatible with the backup quarterback? What are you going to do offensively? If you bring Johnny Manziel in here you're running a different offensive scheme for your backup than you are for your starter. How is that going to translate if the start is out?"
Sherrington: "What would he cost you?"
Moore: "I can't imagine he would cost you a three. When you look at how he's conducted himself this season when he had a chance and moved back into the starting lineup and frittered that away immediately and was only put back in because of injuries. And then how he conducted himself when he was in the concussion protocol to end this season. I'm not sure you could give a three for him. Certainly Cleveland would ask. I don't think any team's going to give up a three for Johnny Manziel at this point. I would say a four or a five is a more accurate starting place at this stage."
Sherrington: "Are Rolando McClain and Greg Hardy coming back?"
Moore: "Rolando McClain, there's a chance he could come back. I think that it's 50-50 at best. Greg Hardy is going to be very interesting because I believe other teams will look at what Dallas went through off the field from a public relations standpoint and even though it won't be as intense as what Dallas went through, they know that is what they're going to go through. So that will eliminate some teams. Other teams with that laid on top of it will say, 'Well what did this guy produce on the field for the final six to seven weeks of the season? That clearly in no way merits our interests in him given all of the other attention and everything else that goes with it.' That will eliminate some others. You put those factors together. I think that Greg Hardy will be a very reasonable player to acquire in the free agent market. He did not maximize his worth with this season. He's not going to get the contract he wants. I believe it's going to be a second-tier contract at best. So from that standpoint financially I think the Cowboys will have a discussion because I think they can get him cheaper than what they did this year. All of that being said, personally, I do not believe Greg Hardy will be back, but I believe it will be discussed."
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Horn: "People want to hear about the future. People want to hear about the quarterback of the future for the Dallas Cowboys. Is it a possibility [Johnny Manziel] will be here?"
Moore: "I find it hard to believe given all of the focus on this when you have this much talk on a guy under contract to another team. Certainly Cleveland, I think, it's fair to say that Johnny Manziel's brief, tumultuous tenure in Cleveland will come to an end this offseason. Clearly Dallas will be a team they will call and say, 'We know you guys are interested. What would you guys be interested in giving up?' I don't know that it's going to proceed much beyond there. If you invested in a first-round pick and he wants to leave are you going to move him to where he's wanted to go all along? You do if it's still in the best interest of the club. I just don't know. With so much that we've heard about this season and saw this season that this team was unable to win with a backup quarterback. So now you're going to have to step back and look at the system that you're running. Is it compatible with the backup quarterback? What are you going to do offensively? If you bring Johnny Manziel in here you're running a different offensive scheme for your backup than you are for your starter. How is that going to translate if the start is out?"
Sherrington: "What would he cost you?"
Moore: "I can't imagine he would cost you a three. When you look at how he's conducted himself this season when he had a chance and moved back into the starting lineup and frittered that away immediately and was only put back in because of injuries. And then how he conducted himself when he was in the concussion protocol to end this season. I'm not sure you could give a three for him. Certainly Cleveland would ask. I don't think any team's going to give up a three for Johnny Manziel at this point. I would say a four or a five is a more accurate starting place at this stage."
Sherrington: "Are Rolando McClain and Greg Hardy coming back?"
Moore: "Rolando McClain, there's a chance he could come back. I think that it's 50-50 at best. Greg Hardy is going to be very interesting because I believe other teams will look at what Dallas went through off the field from a public relations standpoint and even though it won't be as intense as what Dallas went through, they know that is what they're going to go through. So that will eliminate some teams. Other teams with that laid on top of it will say, 'Well what did this guy produce on the field for the final six to seven weeks of the season? That clearly in no way merits our interests in him given all of the other attention and everything else that goes with it.' That will eliminate some others. You put those factors together. I think that Greg Hardy will be a very reasonable player to acquire in the free agent market. He did not maximize his worth with this season. He's not going to get the contract he wants. I believe it's going to be a second-tier contract at best. So from that standpoint financially I think the Cowboys will have a discussion because I think they can get him cheaper than what they did this year. All of that being said, personally, I do not believe Greg Hardy will be back, but I believe it will be discussed."
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These guys thought Weeden and Castle were good those two will look like hall of famers
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Amen -- instead of settling for QBs who have already proven themselves as miserable failures, why not choose one who has already enjoyed success in the NFL? What a novel idea.