JOK - where does he go and does he fit our scheme?

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Title says it all.

Does this player fit our new scheme/DC? Where do you think he ends up going? Is he a top 15 player? Top 20?
 
I’d guess he goes somewhere middle/end of 2nd round.

It has to be a good scheme match bc if not he’s going to get killed against the run.
 
cnuball21 said:
I’d guess he goes somewhere middle/end of 2nd round.

It has to be a good scheme match bc if not he’s going to get killed against the run.
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Not sure where he goes but he needs to be used in a similar fashion to Budda Baker or Jamal Adams where he’s sort of a rover and pass rusher.
 
cnuball21 said:
I’d guess he goes somewhere middle/end of 2nd round.

It has to be a good scheme match bc if not he’s going to get killed against the run.
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It’s not 1990...LB’s don’t have to be 230+. Especially when they can run and cover like KOJ.
 
tm1119 said:
https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/amp.indystar.com/amp/3483284002

It’s not 1990...LB’s don’t have to be 230+. Especially when they can run and cover like KOJ.
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Right...but they do have to have some size/length/power to get off blocks.

Play him in a traditional off ball LBr role and he’ll get killed against the run.
 
He might fit a Cover 3 defense, in that Deion Jones type role.

C3 has four under defenders and three over defenders. The goal is to take away the deep pass and keep things underneath, so those four under guys all see a ton of action and need gobs of range.
 
If you want to run a 4-3 defense that can flex into a 4-2-5 defense against 3 WR sets, and keep your base defense on the field, JOK is a perfect fit at OLB. I think he can play SS as well - I have said it before, but he has a lot of skills similar to Darren Woodson. He may not have Woodson's long speed, but he is rangy, can hit hard, and can cover guys in the slot.
 
Fast LBs please. One thing I hated was the big azz open holes in the zones of Marinelli defensive units. So, LBs that can cover and close ground sounds good to me.
 
Plankton said:
If you want to run a 4-3 defense that can flex into a 4-2-5 defense against 3 WR sets, and keep your base defense on the field, JOK is a perfect fit at OLB. I think he can play SS as well - I have said it before, but he has a lot of skills similar to Darren Woodson. He may not have Woodson's long speed, but he is rangy, can hit hard, and can cover guys in the slot.
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No he can't.

These hybrid guys never work in the NFL, I don't understand the love affair with them. They work in 3-3-5 or other atypical sets that you can use in college, but it doesn't translate to the pros unless they're schemed to not be blocked. You'd basically have to turn him into what Jamal Adams is, but that makes him a liability.
 
He's intriguing, I have many questions about him.
He speed, instincts and tackling are very impressive. And there is no doubt he makes a ton of plays. He could play a hybrid LB/S/DB position that can cover some major ground and make a ton of plays. But, being that undersized, he would get killed as a standard inside LB. So would/could he be that effective on the next level?
I just know and so saying that, I'd be out on him unless it was a mid-rd comp pick. Because I could be dead wrong and he could actually be a perfect fit for what, I/we think Quinn wants to do.
 
cnuball21 said:
I’d guess he goes somewhere middle/end of 2nd round.

It has to be a good scheme match bc if not he’s going to get killed against the run.
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He's being mocked by a lot of people in the Top 20. I saw one mock that had him going to Denver in the Top 10. Seems slightly rich for me.
 
Sydla said:
He's being mocked by a lot of people in the Top 20. I saw one mock that had him going to Denver in the Top 10. Seems slightly rich for me.
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That'd be an awful pick in the top 20 IMO.

He honestly might be best suited for a position change.
 
cnuball21 said:
That'd be an awful pick in the top 20 IMO.

He honestly might be best suited for a position change.
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He seems like a team specific player based on scheme For example, he's been linked to Miami and their 2nd first round pick, which would be 18th, for example.
 
I work in healthcare been fight the "19". Who is JOK ? and what college? Our lb corps is pathetic and we must do something to upgrade.
 
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