Jonathan Cooper Review

[speedkilz88]

We overpaid Free? That's not correct he was coming off some very good seasons. In fact, people on this board were calling him Doug Freak because of his athleticism.

You are so dense. The team admitted they made a mistake when they asked him to reduce his base pay in the last two years. And also moved him from LT back to RT.

 

[Kaiser]

We overpaid Free? That's not correct he was coming off some very good seasons. In fact, people on this board were calling him Doug Freak because of his athleticism.

He only started a year and a half prior to getting that contract extension and everyone on the planet thinks he was overpaid. Jerry thought he was going to be a foundational LT and locked him up but he never came close to justifying that extension.

When they threatened to cut him he took a renegotiated amount down to the guaranteed amounts left on his contract, meaning Dallas gave him a contract where playing would be the same cost as cutting him.

 

[AbeBeta]

You are so dense. The team admitted they made a mistake when they asked him to reduce his base pay in the last two years. And also moved him from LT back to RT.

His performance went downhill. We adjusted his deal.

Talk about dense - you know that we only paid him 25 mill over four years, right? That's very reasonable for a starter who is the leader of your line.

 

[CyberB0b]

The Cowboys seem to do well with the reclamation projections. He obviously had talent when he was drafted. He provides a lot of flex if he can stay healthy. Great pickup.

 

[Shuff]

This would be huge, he really sucked in Arizona.

 

[Scotman]

The Cowboys could have and they chose not to. People seem for forget he is playing on borrowed time with his knee and signing him to a long deal is very risky. Clearly the Cowboys chose not to make that gamble.

Oh, I don't disagree at all. We are on the same page. I would have liked to keep him. But I am glad they didn't mortgage the future to do so for the very reason you pointed out.

 

[xwalker]

Your assertion. You have no proof as per usual. I will demonstrate how to show proof:



http://www.espn.com/blog/dallas/cow...se-bill-callahan-but-line-isnt-going-anywhere

That is not proof that he didn't say something.

If you can tell me how to link to 105.3 The Fans interview with Callahan from back then, I'll do it.

It's common knowledge in the media that Garrett and Callahan were in disagreement on this issue. It was the start of their "feud" because Callahan had gone directly to Jerry in an attempt to over rule Garrett. Jerry forced Garrett to let them rotate in the final 4 games that season.

 

[xwalker]

That is not all he goes by is what the issue is. He is like a politician mixing truth with lie to make it seem credible. I can take the good with the bad but that does not mean the bad just gets a pass.

Callahan did not say that. And when asked for proof he dissembles or disappears. I cannot respect that.

Fuzzy, I understand your feelings...

CCboy,

Fuzzy knows that I can't link to a radio interview.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That is not proof that he didn't say something.

If you can tell me how to link to 105.3 The Fans interview with Callahan from back then, I'll do it.

It's common knowledge in the media that Garrett and Callahan were in disagreement on this issue. It was the start of their "feud" because Callahan had gone directly to Jerry in an attempt to over rule Garrett. Jerry forced Garrett to let them rotate in the final 4 games that season.

I was proving what I was claiming. It's up to you to prove your claim. And a whopper like that would not be exclusive to a radio interview in reporting.

You have nothing and no one else recalls it either. Assertions without proof are to be discarded.

 

[xwalker]

I was proving what I was claiming. It's up to you to prove your claim. And a whopper like that would not be exclusive to a radio interview in reporting.

You have nothing and no one else recalls it either. Assertions without proof are to be discarded.

Do you even receive real radio station broadcasts down in Podunkin?

Is the big one: 960 AM KGKL

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Do you even receive real radio station broadcasts down in Podunkin?

Is the big one: 960 AM KGKL

I called it:

he regularly makes things up and when asked to show proof changes the subject.

And here is an example of him changing the subject when he has no leg to stand on. You can guess where I live and make fun of the strawman if it makes you feel better.

A rift in the coaching staff over who starts would not be contained on a radio station yet you can find no proof at all. Own it.

 

[xwalker]

I called it:



And here is an example of him changing the subject when he has no leg to stand on. You can guess where I live and make fun of the strawman if it makes you feel better.

A rift in the coaching staff over who starts would not be contained on a radio station yet you can find no proof at all. Own it.

You would be clueless if you believed that the media didn't withhold any information. The local media has to work with the teams. They're not going to put things in writing that only a small number of die hard fans even care about but that would alienate someone like Garrett. The media will say things on radio that they won't put in writing. Even Broaddus says things on the radio that I have not seen him put in writing or say on their little video shows. He ripped Jerry and crew to shreds when they drafted Jaylon over Myles Jack, but what he said/wrote on DC.com was waaay toned down in comparison.

I don't know why I bother telling you these things because I know that you are already aware of it, but pretend not to be just because you want to argue about it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You would be clueless if you believed that the media didn't withhold any information. The local media has to work with the teams. They're not going to put things in writing that only a small number of die hard fans even care about but that would alienate someone like Garrett. The media will say things on radio that they won't put in writing. Even Broaddus says things on the radio that I have not seen him put in writing or say on their little video shows. He ripped Jerry and crew to shreds when they drafted Jaylon over Myles Jack, but what he said/wrote on DC.com was waaay toned down in comparison.

I don't know why I bother telling you these things because I know that you are already aware of it, but pretend not to be just because you want to argue about it.

A) this is a public broadcast you are describing not something the media is in a position to withhold.

B) this is not some random blurb from Broaddus and you can find stuff of him being critical but this is not about a mediot its about an acting coach. Yours is a piss poor analogy.

You are describing a rift within the coaching staff with a specific cause. The DFW media would have been all over it. There is no reason whatsoever for them to hold back on it and every reason for them to fixate on the controversy.

C) You still have nothing but poor excuses in way of proof.

 

[xwalker]

A) this is a public broadcast you are describing not something the media is in a position to withhold.

B) this is not some random blurb from Broaddus and you can find stuff of him being critical but this is not about a mediot its about an acting coach. Yours is a piss poor analogy.

You are describing a rift within the coaching staff with a specific cause. The DFW media would have been all over it. There is no reason whatsoever for them to hold back on it and every reason for them to fixate on the controversy.

C) You still have nothing but poor excuses in way of proof.

You are being silly.

Very few people care about this type of issue unless there was a fist fight or something.

Do you also dispute that Callahan and Garrett had a "feud" about Callahan calling the plays?

Why do you think Mike Florio reported that there was a Dez tape. Do you really think he was dumb enough to set himself up for failure? He reported it because the local media believes that there was a tape and they told him that there was a tape.

I'm not saying that there was a tape, but there are local media that believed it long before Florio reported it; however, the local media would never report themselves. Even if the local media had the tape in their hands, they would have given it to someone like Florio because they would never alienate Jerry and the team by reporting it.

Skip Bayless ended up coming out ahead in the long run, but he was run out of Dallas as a local reporter because he alienated Jerry and Aikman.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You are being silly.

Very few people care about this type of issue unless there was a fist fight or something.

Do you also dispute that Callahan and Garrett had a "feud" about Callahan calling the plays?

Why do you think Mike Florio reported that there was a Dez tape. Do you really think he was dumb enough to set himself up for failure? He reported it because the local media believes that there was a tape and they told him that there was a tape.

I'm not saying that there was a tape, but there are local media that believed it long before Florio reported it; however, the local media would never report themselves. Even if the local media had the tape in their hands, they would have given it to someone like Florio because they would never alienate Jerry and the team by reporting it.

Skip Bayless ended up coming out ahead in the long run, but he was run out of Dallas as a local reporter because he alienated Jerry and Aikman.

All that and still not a shred of proof. You could just say, "You'll just have to take my word for it," and move on. Instead we get dissembling and excuses.

Cannot tell which is more worthless.

 

[CCBoy]

CCboy,

Fuzzy knows that I can't link to a radio interview.

X...I never have a problem with your postings...I like both of you guys, I know that might not help a lot.

 

[Doc50]

I would have liked to have kept Leary. That said, I suppose we just couldn't. He really needed to be signed before the start of last season, not after. I think he had a bad taste in his mouth.

All that said, I'm really hoping Cooper plays to his potential. I rank him right there with Chaz Green. We need both of them, but neither has been reliable. If either of them actually pans out, I'll be happy.

Leary, Green, and Cooper have the injury history in common.

The difference with Leary is his degenerative knee condition. He was a risk when the 'Boys signed him, and his subsequent production proved fortunate. But letting him walk was probably the right business decision from the beginning, given the inevitable failure of that knee.

While Cooper and Green have had some bad luck, each passed his physical, and may be ready to show some value in TC.

This somewhat reminds me of the well-known Demarco Murray situation. He was dinged up for quite a while before his breakout year, when we rode him like a pack mule (and possibly used him up). We could have resigned him at the right price, but his market value had increased beyond our own reasonable asset evaluation, so he walked as well.

These are tough GM decisions that have to be made every year. Our team's recent history of success with talent evaluation and risk management are at least a cause for optimism. The FO appears to have earned the benefit of the doubt.

 

[CCBoy]

Leary, Green, and Cooper have the injury history in common.

The difference with Leary is his degenerative knee condition. He was a risk when the 'Boys signed him, and his subsequent production proved fortunate. But letting him walk was probably the right business decision from the beginning, given the inevitable failure of that knee.

While Cooper and Green have had some bad luck, each passed his physical, and may be ready to show some value in TC.

This somewhat reminds me of the well-known Demarco Murray situation. He was dinged up for quite a while before his breakout year, when we rode him like a pack mule (and possibly used him up). We could have resigned him at the right price, but his market value had increased beyond our own reasonable asset evaluation, so he walked as well.

These are tough GM decisions that have to be made every year. Our team's recent history of success with talent evaluation and risk management are at least a cause for optimism. The FO appears to have earned the benefit of the doubt.

Just for the record here, Doc...is the Dallas Cowboys medical team, equipment, and facility...top of the line? Do they know what they are doing with roster players?

 

[Doc50]

Just for the record here, Doc...is the Dallas Cowboys medical team, equipment, and facility...top of the line? Do they know what they are doing with roster players?

Yes, the Cowboys' medical team is top tier.

Just look at the Jaylen Smith situation. That was another calculated risk that FO was able to take based on the medical team's expertise and and the confidence therein. Integration of the orthopedists, physical therapists, nutritionists, and strength trainers is required for a successful program, and the 'Boys have that. They know what they can and cannot do, and are making responsible recommendations accordingly.

We all get impatient with the recurrent hammies, turf toes, back spasms, etc, but that's just football, and some take longer than others to heal, even under the most optimal circumstances.

BTW, recalling the DeMarco Murray situation reminded me of our current Sean Lee conundrum. Since we finally got a mostly injury-free season from him, should we have cut him loose if he were at the end of his contract? (many had opined that he was obviously made of glass).
I say no, due to his leadership skills and football savvy, not to mention his abundant injury-plagued talent. He is a big part of the heart & soul of the team, and he's an inspirational leader.
He's the defense's Jason Witten, and he'll know when his time is up. Also, he's in a better position on D for him to possibly limit injury exposure.
I hope he plays well enough and long enough to be a ROH guy; he's been that important.