Jordan Shipley?

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Who is interested in this guy?

I don't really watch college football, so I don't really see what players are good until around draft time. Didn't know about this guy until he was mentioned on ESPN.

Looked him up.

The kid has all major texas high school football receiving records.

Played with Stephen McGee in HS.

The thing that stands out the most to me about him though is his receptions. #2 in 2009-2010 season in receptions.

Thats what Im looking for in a receiver for Romo. Someone who gets open and catches the ball... crazy huh?

If we can draft him in the 4th or 5th round, I would see that as very Romo friendly.
 

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Galian Beast;3319654 said:
Who is interested in this guy?

I don't really watch college football, so I don't really see what players are good until around draft time. Didn't know about this guy until he was mentioned on ESPN.

Looked him up.

The kid has all major texas high school football receiving records.

Played with Stephen McGee in HS.

The thing that stands out the most to me about him though is his receptions. #2 in 2009-2010 season in receptions.

Thats what Im looking for in a receiver for Romo. Someone who gets open and catches the ball... crazy huh?

If we can draft him in the 4th or 5th round, I would see that as very Romo friendly.

i'd be cool with him in the 3rd...
 
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Galian Beast;3319654 said:
Who is interested in this guy?

I don't really watch college football, so I don't really see what players are good until around draft time. Didn't know about this guy until he was mentioned on ESPN.

Looked him up.

The kid has all major texas high school football receiving records.

Played with Stephen McGee in HS.

The thing that stands out the most to me about him though is his receptions. #2 in 2009-2010 season in receptions.

Thats what Im looking for in a receiver for Romo. Someone who gets open and catches the ball... crazy huh?

If we can draft him in the 4th or 5th round, I would see that as very Romo friendly.


If you want Shipley then Crayton has to go...which many people wouldn't want. Plus I can't see him matching Crayton production his first couple years.
 

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I'll go ahead and say it for the fools who will undoubtedly do it ahead of me: "he has the potential to be the next Wes Welker!"
 

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xWraithx;3319666 said:
I'll go ahead and say it for the fools who will undoubtedly do it ahead of me: "he has the potential to be the next Wes Welker!"

He doesn't seem at all like Wes Welker. I might still play him in the slot in the NFL, but I like his speed and his ability to seemingly catch whatever is thrown at him.

The only thing i see in him from wes welker is that you could call them both possession receivers. Although wes welker is more of a yac guy i think.
 

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I like Shipley and would love to have him on the team. He is a very good WR, very good return man and even holds on extra points and FG and where he has used his skills in fake situation to keep the chains moving. I think the guy is a very heady player and is going to be a good pro
 

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CanuckCowboysFan;3319665 said:
If you want Shipley then Crayton has to go...which many people wouldn't want. Plus I can't see him matching Crayton production his first couple years.

Im not at all tied to Patrick Crayton.
 

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CanuckCowboysFan;3319665 said:
If you want Shipley then Crayton has to go...which many people wouldn't want. Plus I can't see him matching Crayton production his first couple years.

That is not necessarily true. Shipley or whomever can sit and learn for a couple of years behind Crayton. Crayton is about to turn 31, so it would be a good idea to develop his replacement. I like Shipley in the 4th and even better in the 5th.
 

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joseephuss;3319695 said:
That is not necessarily true. Shipley or whomever can sit and learn for a couple of years behind Crayton. Crayton is about to turn 31, so it would be a good idea to develop his replacement. I like Shipley in the 4th and even better in the 5th.

exactly, and this dude is a long time football player. He had what 6 years at UT?

Also a kick returner.
 
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joseephuss;3319695 said:
That is not necessarily true. Shipley or whomever can sit and learn for a couple of years behind Crayton. Crayton is about to turn 31, so it would be a good idea to develop his replacement. I like Shipley in the 4th and even better in the 5th.

No, that wouldn't be such a good idea because Shipley is more then capable starting day one. Him on the bench would be a waste IMO. What if Jerry drafts a Dez Bryant or a Golden Tate? Should they sit on the bench for a couple years behind Crayton to?
 

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Crayton's replacement is already on the team.

Kevin Ogletree. Write it down, sign it, put it in an envelope, stamp it, ship it, receive it, and open it back up.

But, I wouldn't mind having another receiver on the roster as insurance. I would much rather have McCluster or Golden Tate over 4.57 Shipley. With Jason Garrett poised to take over the offense and the team more after this year and wanting to run a more explosive style offense (think New Orleans) players like Tate and McCluster make much more sense than Shipley.
 
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casmith07;3319738 said:
Crayton's replacement is already on the team.

Kevin Ogletree. Write it down, sign it, put it in an envelope, stamp it, ship it, receive it, and open it back up.

But, I wouldn't mind having another receiver on the roster as insurance. I would much rather have McCluster or Golden Tate over 4.57 Shipley. With Jason Garrett poised to take over the offense and the team more after this year and wanting to run a more explosive style offense (think New Orleans) players like Tate and McCluster make much more sense than Shipley.


If KO is Craytons replacement where would Tate play?
 

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CanuckCowboysFan;3319744 said:
If KO is Craytons replacement where would Tate play?

I was insinuating that Roy Williams would be gone after another year of mediocre performance.

I think our situation will look more like Austin, Crayton, Ogletree, Hurd, <player yet to be acquired> in the future.

Jerry Jones really likes Sam Hurd. He's just buried on the depth chart.
 

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I'm interested if he's a value pick and he grades out well on REAL scout boards.
 

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isn't that the key. Getting value.

Dallas has no pure needs. They have some needs for perceived backups and upgrades, but no pure needs.

Examples:
Heck if Earl Thomas falls to 27 pick him up (this goes for any top 20 players)
if Terrance Cody is around late in the 2nd -- his is value there.
Shipley still on the board in the 3rd - pounce.

Heck if Colt McCoy falls to the 4th -- pick him up. Dallas doesn't need a QB, but if you have him rated as a late 1 early 2 and he is available late 4 -- take a chance. It isn't as if you have any real needs. (What if someone goes down - don't cut it).

Players can be found in any round, but Dallas has set itself up to get the best player available anytime.
 

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CanuckCowboysFan;3319720 said:
No, that wouldn't be such a good idea because Shipley is more then capable starting day one. Him on the bench would be a waste IMO. What if Jerry drafts a Dez Bryant or a Golden Tate? Should they sit on the bench for a couple years behind Crayton to?

You don't just get rid of productive players. Crayton is a productive player. I would rather have too many guys than too few. With too few you are one injury away from having none. There is no reason to get rid of Crayton yet. More than likely Sam Hurd is the existing wide receiver who will not be on the team once the new season starts. Shipley or whomever else can fill his role. And if Shipley is good enough to start right away there is nothing wrong with sliding Crayton into a back up role. Why cut him if he can still be a valuable back up?

Crayton is the most consistent wide receiver on the team. Miles Austin had a great year and I hope and think he can continue that, but he still has to prove it. Roy Williams is Roy Williams. Crayton is really the only one who has gone several years as a productive wide receiver in Dallas.

And I don't care about who it is, but Dallas will probably add a receiver to the team. Whomever they choose will hopefully contribute in some fashion and the Cowboys will not need to cut Crayton to make that happen.
 

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Dalmations202;3319841 said:
isn't that the key. Getting value.

Dallas has no pure needs. They have some needs for perceived backups and upgrades, but no pure needs.

Examples:
Heck if Earl Thomas falls to 27 pick him up (this goes for any top 20 players)
if Terrance Cody is around late in the 2nd -- his is value there.
Shipley still on the board in the 3rd - pounce.

Heck if Colt McCoy falls to the 4th -- pick him up. Dallas doesn't need a QB, but if you have him rated as a late 1 early 2 and he is available late 4 -- take a chance. It isn't as if you have any real needs. (What if someone goes down - don't cut it).

Players can be found in any round, but Dallas has set itself up to get the best player available anytime.

You'd probably last all of 10 seconds in an NFL GM job interview.
 

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casmith07;3319911 said:
You'd probably last all of 10 seconds in an NFL GM job interview.

Maybe, but I had a job for a few years that had a 13 second life expectancy -- so 10 is almost there.

<edit>
Romo and Austin went undrafted. Tom Brady make it to the 6th round.
Every player I listed has a chance - to be a playmaker...... so even though I might not make 10 seconds into the interview -- GM's haven't shown me much over the years.
 

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Shipley, Gilyard, or McCluster. Get us a guy who can return the ball and make a few plays in the slot with limited reps for a year or two before we put the vets out to pasture and then bam, full time starter born..
 

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Dalmations202;3320009 said:
Maybe, but I had a job for a few years that had a 13 second life expectancy -- so 10 is almost there.

<edit>
Romo and Austin went undrafted. Tom Brady make it to the 6th round.
Every player I listed has a chance - to be a playmaker...... so even though I might not make 10 seconds into the interview -- GM's haven't shown me much over the years.

You don't draft Colt McCoy on this team. You just don't. There are too many other positions that you could draft that have a much bigger chance of making a marked impact on the team. Colt McCoy would be the third string quarterback at BEST, and camp fodder at the worst, with camp fodder being the 90% solution in this case.

You have to assess the roster, then needs, then wants. I applaud the outside-the-box thinking...but teams that draft like that don't end up doing much in the post-season or getting there at all in the first place.
 
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