Joseph Randle Arrested Yet Again for Battery; 3rd Arrest Since Being Cut in November

[TwoCentPlain]

Actually the organizational failure from him has a lot to do with the Cowboys.

If they do not learn from his case, they will repeat the same mistakes.

You could say that about every team in the NFL. Leveon Bell? Martavis Bryant? Both suspended for weed. What does that say about the Steelers? Every team has its share of knuckleheads. You don't win this violent a sport with choirboys. If you want to win, you have to take risks with talented players with troubled pasts. When you win, no one seems to mind. When you lose, every one comes out of the woodwork pointing fingers.

 

[CCBoy]

Just walking on by the assembled lynch mob who just couldn't get enough Ripple...but keeping a holstered Smith & Wesson .45 cal 1991 and two clips ready

 

[slick325]

Wow...just wow!!! I should never be surprised by any actions by humans but I can still be befuddled.

 

[Alexander]

You could say that about every team in the NFL.

To a degree, yes.

Leveon Bell? Martavis Bryant? Both suspended for weed. What does that say about the Steelers?

It says they have two players that have smoked weed and were dumb enough to get caught. Any others to play key roles for them that that have domestic abuse, multiple DUIs (one of which resulted in death of a teammate), gun charge arrests in addition to them?

Every team has its share of knuckleheads.

Yes again. But when you have multiple players with character/intelligence issues in key roles, there becomes a point where it becomes unmanageable. We have or had five or more such players over the last two seasons.

Dallas is at that point where it cannot be managed effectively.

You don't win this violent a sport with choirboys. If you want to win, you have to take risks with talented players with troubled pasts. When you win, no one seems to mind. When you lose, every one comes out of the woodwork pointing fingers.

It is hard to win when you have players to the point of being suspended and you keep having to plan around them. Then you better have a lot of luck to overcome it.

 

[CCBoy]

This is what his teammate, Randle did as well...

Randle is being held on $100,000 bail and has been booked on three counts of aggravated battery, one count of drug possession and one count of criminal damage, according to TMZ's report.

Something aggravates abuse in the newly arrived jet set.

 

[links18]

How can you trust a player who's been arrested for shoplifting when they're making good money? That makes no sense to me. There's a lot of things players get arrested for but rarely if ever for shoplifting. There has to be a problem with an NFL player who can easily afford underwear and cologne but would rather risk being arrested for stealing those items. This video is from his arrest in Oct of 2014 for shoplifting he sounds like a complete idiot. I said after it was posted on the board the Cowboys are taking a real chance going forward with him in 2015.

Totally agree with you. I am just not sure this organization recognizes these risks when it makes personnel decisions very well. I think there is some major denial....

 

[revospeed]

I took a lot of flack from people when I said I believed his ex about getting violent and smashing that car window. Some guys just think they can do whatever they want.

I'm sure I was in the thick of that argument with you. Looks like you were right. :/

 

[Nightman]

I'm sure I was in the thick of that argument with you. Looks like you were right. :/

It is just so hard to know anything for sure. Even so called choir boys like Peyton can have skeletons in their closet.

I try to give everyone a fair shot but gut feelings are usually pretty solid. I wanted to give JManziel the benefit of the doubt at first because he was so fun to watch at A+M but it looks like he has some real problems. If he really busted his gf's eardrum he needs to held accountable.

 

[CCBoy]

It is just so hard to know anything for sure. Even so called choir boys like Peyton can have skeletons in their closet.

I try to give everyone a fair shot but gut feelings are usually pretty solid. I wanted to give JManziel the benefit of the doubt at first because he was so fun to watch at A+M but it looks like he has some real problems. If he really busted his gf's eardrum he needs to held accountable.

A completely corrupted person just doesn't want to change...

 

[KJJ]

Totally agree with you. I am just not sure this organization recognizes these risks when it makes personnel decisions very well. I think there is some major denial....

The organization recognizes the risks there's off the field risks with every player you draft but the Cowboys continue to believe they have a system in place to keep players in line. It seems like every player who's had off the field issues such as Randy Gregory want to come to the Cowboys because they keep taking in these players in even though they keep failing with them. Jerry seems to think he can save every player.

Don't see how the organization couldn't recognize what an idiot Randle is. It's not like they didn't see the video of his arrest for shoplifting. It takes a complete idiot for a professional football player to risk their freedom and their career stealing underwear and cologne when they can easily pay for it. Randle should have been cut after the shoplifting incident.

 

[CCBoy]

The organization recognizes the risks there's off the field risks with every player you draft but the Cowboys continue to believe they have a system in place to keep players in line. It seems like every player who's had off the field issues such as Randy Gregory want to come to the Cowboys because they keep taking in these players in even though they keep failing with them. Jerry seems to think he can save every player.

Don't see how the organization couldn't recognize what an idiot Randle is. It's not like they didn't see the video of his arrest for shoplifting. It takes a complete idiot for a professional football player to risk their freedom and their career stealing underwear and cologne when they can easily pay for it. Randle should have been cut after the shoplifting incident.

The connection is drawn directly with a vast experience of assisting players with problems. This kid passed the initial litmus test, and then reverted to his own past instead.

But that can happen to ANY team.

As to recognitions, this appears to be another of a long line of obvious declarations, well after the fact. But look who comes accusing...and you have been the vocal minority on both issues for exactly how long now?

By the above, one could also surmize that Dez Bryant should have been let go as well. He had to be bailed out of diamond purchases and had a very public confrontation with his own family members.

Selective applications, that again, all teams have to confront?

 

[KJJ]

The connection is drawn directly with a vast experience of assisting players with problems. This kid passed the initial litmus test, and then reverted to his own past instead.

But that can happen to ANY team.

As to recognitions, this appears to be another of a long line of obvious declarations, well after the fact. But look who comes accusing...and you have been the vocal minority on both issues for exactly how long now?

By the above, one could also surmize that Dez Bryant should have been let go as well. He had to be bailed out of diamond purchases and had a very public confrontation with his own family members.

Selective applications, that again, all teams have to confront?

I said there's risks with any player you draft and I wasn't just referring to the Cowboys. There's no excuse for an NFL player shoplifting that's a big red flag something in their head isn't ticking right. You could tell in his arrest video he has a bunch of screws loose. I said right after Randle got arrested I would move on from him because you can't trust him to be the starter if Murray moves on and gamble that he doesn't end up in trouble again. He was facing a possible league suspension for that shoplifting offense and the Cowboys still didn't draft an RB as insurance.

The team was unprepared for the 2015 season having to cut their backup QB who they claimed showed great improvement during the offseason and had to cut their starting RB who couldn't stay out of trouble. Both moves forced the team to throw away a couple of 7th round picks one on an RB we ended up cutting after only a few carries and the other on a QB who ended up being worse than the backup QB we had.

 

[CCBoy]

Alright, if negative is the way, you're going to have to prove your case...and not by generalizations, but applied fact. Not stereotypes and chest pounding...

I'll state what the group has implied, but every last one will then have to be proven out. That or there is just a lot of hot air being blown about:

Here is your core:

Jerry has always placed a greater premium upon talent than character.

Charles Haley
Alonzo Spellman
Dimitirius Underwood
Quincy Carter
Ryan Leaf
Terrel Owens
Tank Johnson
Pacman Jones
Emmitt Smith
Eric Williams
Michael Irvin
Dez Bryant
Greg Hardy
Joseph Randle
Randal Gregory

Now, prove the ignorance of 'ol Jerry...beyond a passing insult.

 

[CCBoy]

I said there's risks with any player you draft and I wasn't just referring to the Cowboys. There's no excuse for an NFL player shoplifting that's a big red flag something in their head isn't ticking right. You could tell in his arrest video he has a bunch of screws loose. I said right after Randle got arrested I would move on from him because you can't trust him to be the starter if Murray moves on and gamble that he doesn't end up in trouble again. He was facing a possible league suspension for that shoplifting offense and the Cowboys still didn't draft an RB as insurance.

The team was unprepared for the 2015 season having to cut their backup QB who they claimed showed great improvement during the offseason and had to cut their starting RB who couldn't stay out of trouble. Both moves forced the team to throw away a couple of 7th round picks one on an RB we ended up cutting after only a few carries and the other on a QB who ended up being worse than the backup QB we had.

Salary considerations fueled the fire on the Randle situation. A head coach was both striking at the Cowboys and elevating the cost to retain the natural head to the Dallas running back group.

Dallas closed ranks and attempted to protect a running back who had enough talent to actually achieve a higher role. The error was on the side of Randle...and full responsibility lies there.

As to plans on a quarterback, that was due to investments in other positions on the team. No one planned on the loss of both Dez Bryant and Tony Romo. For a purely backup status quarterback, the loss of Dez as well, was the killer.

Both the running games and the passing games were in transition the entire first half of the season. The team lost Randle and then physically lost Dez...that's not minor in what was actually being dealt with.


Your comment was a reasonable shot from the hip, although.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

His moorings were shallow...but by several reports, he does have a socially redemptive side as well. It won't take long before we know if he is able to sort the two out.

Yes, fresh starts are in abundance here, House of Second Chances.

 

[CCBoy]

Yes, fresh starts are in abundance here, House of Second Chances.

Give us a real opinion and not baffle, upon:

Alright, if negative is the way, you're going to have to prove your case...and not by generalizations, but applied fact. Not stereotypes and chest pounding...

I'll state what the group has implied, but every last one will then have to be proven out. That or there is just a lot of hot air being blown about:

Here is your core:

Jerry has always placed a greater premium upon talent than character.

Charles Haley
Alonzo Spellman
Dimitirius Underwood
Quincy Carter
Ryan Leaf
Terrel Owens
Tank Johnson
Pacman Jones
Emmitt Smith
Eric Williams
Michael Irvin
Dez Bryant
Greg Hardy
Joseph Randle
Randal Gregory

 

[Alexander]

Yes, fresh starts are in abundance here, House of Second Chances.

And that has to stop for now.

If for nothing else, to get those under the roof in line.

 

[Redball Express]

Yep. Those people who were around him every day thought this was the guy to replace Murray. Yikes!

Also the same guys who signed Hardy and let Murray walk..

and also the same ones that are about to keep Romo and instead draft a LBer or ANOTHER CB with our #1 pick.

This Franchise is really a league leading group..anybody can see they know football.

 

[CCBoy]

Also the same guys who signed Hardy and let Murray walk..

and also the same ones that are about to keep Romo and instead draft a LBer or ANOTHER CB with our #1 pick.

This Franchise is really a league leading group..anybody can see they know football.

That's what they are going to do? I wasn't aware that the draft board was even completed, much less leaked yet...myself, I prefer a nice bourbon instead of trashing my Cowboys.

 

[rynochop]

You could say that about every team in the NFL. Leveon Bell? Martavis Bryant? Both suspended for weed. What does that say about the Steelers? Every team has its share of knuckleheads .

Exactly, Kraft and Belichick had someone that murdered 3 people ON the team. I'm sure they are the gold standard for the folks who say only Jerry brings these shady characters in