Joseph Randles college highlights

[AzorAhai]

Go back and watch this again and see how big the holes were he was running through. It's jaw dropping.

The holes he gets here are big too, but Murray doesn't make it through this hole. Murray is definitely met at the hole by two defenders and would be lucky to get back to the line. I'm looking forward to Randle getting some more touches.

 

[AzorAhai]

LOL there are quite a few backs that I would have taken over Randle. Randle is not a complete back. However, he is a good change of pace back that benefit heavily from Murray running the ball and softening up the defense. I don't think he is the type to be the featured back.

Cowboys really need better competition in camp to determine who is the best running back. The 4 backs we have now has to many question marks to rely on for the entire season.

While I agree a more feature back would be nice, Randle has had some very good runs before anyone had a chance to wear the defense down. He broke a long run on Seattle in the 1st quarter early in the game that set a we're here to play vine. Usually its the 4th quarter before a defense wears down anyways and Randle almost never got 4th quarter carries. Murray closed the games so he benefited from wearing them down.

 

[XxTDxX]

Only RBs in this years draft that I would have taken over randle are Gurley, Gordon, and Yeldon. All were gone by pick 36.

 

[ConstantReboot]

While I agree a more feature back would be nice, Randle has had some very good runs before anyone had a chance to wear the defense down. He broke a long run on Seattle in the 1st quarter early in the game that set a we're here to play vine. Usually its the 4th quarter before a defense wears down anyways and Randle almost never got 4th quarter carries. Murray closed the games so he benefited from wearing them down.

Yes thats true. I remember that run. But he wasn't touched until like 20-25 yards down field. The oline gets more credit than what Murray has done last year. Yet when Randle breaks those long runs, its as though we all forget the people blocking for him.

Lastly, like I mentioned he's a good chance of pace back. I just don't think he would be the type to carry the load running the ball.

 

[xtreme_2k]

LOL there are quite a few backs that I would have taken over Randle. Randle is not a complete back. However, he is a good change of pace back that benefit heavily from Murray running the ball and softening up the defense. I don't think he is the type to be the featured back.

Cowboys really need better competition in camp to determine who is the best running back. The 4 backs we have now has to many question marks to rely on for the entire season.

So I do value everyone's opinion but could you expound on your statement that he is not a complete back? I saw a running back catching the ball, running inside, outside, held up pretty well as a blocker.

 

[al124]

Just to play devil's advocate:

http://sportswunderkind.com/player-evaluation-joseph-randle-rb-osu/

I don't remember how Randle's pass blocking has been since being drafted but whichever RB does that best will probably be the starter. We all know this team ain't going nowhere if Romo goes down.

 

[ConstantReboot]

So I do value everyone's opinion but could you expound on your statement that he is not a complete back? I saw a running back catching the ball, running inside, outside, held up pretty well as a blocker.

I see as a complete back as someone that can be the featured back thats able to carry the team with at least 15-20 carries a game. Where he's able to break tackles and make the tough yardages when its needed the most.

Randle benefited from not having to carry the load like Murray did. He was fresh and the defense really didn't game plan around him as they did with Murray.

I'll judge Randle after a few games to see if he can carry the team like Murray did. But for now I just don't think he's the complete back and just another change of pace back.

 

[xtreme_2k]

I see as a complete back as someone that can be the featured back thats able to carry the team with at least 15-20 carries a game. Where he's able to break tackles and make the tough yardages when its needed the most.

Randle benefited from not having to carry the load like Murray did. He was fresh and the defense really didn't game plan around him as they did with Murray.

I'll judge Randle after a few games to see if he can carry the team like Murray did. But for now I just don't think he's the complete back and just another change of pace back.

Well by your definition, he is a complete back since he had the stats to back it up as the featured back in college.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think people fell out of love with Randle after his rookie season. It wasn't ESPN highlight worthy. And that's how NFL fans IMO view players now. Without big time highlights? Players don't matter. And in his rookie year there was nothing really that impressive. His second year, IMO he looked more nimble, faster and quicker. And it showed on the field. Its probably premature but IMO, he is why I don't have to waste a draft pick on a running back. Now for Gurley I would've. But it was important that we went into this draft giving Maranelli high draft picks with skill. We can't keep asking him to take on the Nick Hayden's of the world and keep making them serviceable and ask him to go out there and field a legit defense.

But make no mistake. No one knows if Randle can or can't handle the load next year. People don't value him because everyone wants the big splash guy like AP or a Gurley.

Cowboy fans spent all year touting how great this offensive line was last year and then want to trade 1st rounders for AP or draft a back in the 1st round. You have Randle, Dunbar and Ryan Williams who don't have much wear and tear on their bodies thanks to us overworking Murray. And then you have the vet McFadden.

Cowboys running game will be fine next year. Maybe not for fantasy players but for the Cowboys it will be. The run game is the least of my concern.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I see as a complete back as someone that can be the featured back thats able to carry the team with at least 15-20 carries a game. Where he's able to break tackles and make the tough yardages when its needed the most.

Randle benefited from not having to carry the load like Murray did. He was fresh and the defense really didn't game plan around him as they did with Murray.

I'll judge Randle after a few games to see if he can carry the team like Murray did. But for now I just don't think he's the complete back and just another change of pace back.

Why don't you think he can break tackles or make tough yards when he hasn't been asked to? And if the guy is going to keep running at 6 or 7 yards a clip....that should do is just fine.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Well by your definition, he is a complete back since he had the stats to back it up as the featured back in college.

Why do you say that? I've stated that I just think that he's nothing more than a change of pace back. If you want an ideal complete back look at Murray. A back that can break tackles, block, catch the ball, and make defenses adjust. Randle can do some of this but not all. When I see Randle handle the things Murray did than I might consider. But for now, I see him nothing more than a good change of pace back that I wouldn't go crazy about.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Why don't you think he can break tackles or make tough yards when he hasn't been asked to? And if the guy is going to keep running at 6 or 7 yards a clip....that should do is just fine.

Because I haven't seen him break a tackle or two like Murray did occasionally. When the defense got their hands on him he went down pretty easily.

I'll be a believer if he's the featured back running 6-7 yards a carry consistently.

 

[windjc]

What I like about Randle is that he showed some nice flashes with limited carries last season. However, almost every single RB in the NFL has impressive college highlights.

Randle looked considerably improved from his rookie season to me. His first year he ran with what looked like timidity to me or uncertainty. Last year he was much more explosive through the tackles. He is not going to make the defense physically pay like Demarco did, but he is more elusive. The best runs on the team last year belong to Randle. Can he be a work horse? Doubtful. If we can find a 3rd down back, I really like Randle on 1st and 2nd.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Because I haven't seen him break a tackle or two like Murray did occasionally. When the defense got their hands on him he went down pretty easily.

I'll be a believer if he's the featured back running 6-7 yards a carry consistently.

OH well I don't think he's as physical of a back as Murray. But Murray couldn't hit the home run so did they make him a complete back?

I'm not quite sold on Randle either being a physical back but as a complete one? I think he is more complete than Murray was. But as of now, I don't know if he does anything great or exceptional like Murray did. Murray was incredibly physical.

His YPC is probably a bit skewed because of the big runs he had but I saw such a progression between year 1 and 2 for Randle that I expect it to continue.

And Randle isn't a small guy. I don't know if he wears small shoulder pads or what but his height and weight aren't small. But the guy looks small on the field for some reason.

 

[Tabascocat]

I think people fell out of love with Randle after his rookie season. It wasn't ESPN highlight worthy. And that's how NFL fans IMO view players now. Without big time highlights? Players don't matter. And in his rookie year there was nothing really that impressive. His second year, IMO he looked more nimble, faster and quicker. And it showed on the field. Its probably premature but IMO, he is why I don't have to waste a draft pick on a running back. Now for Gurley I would've. But it was important that we went into this draft giving Maranelli high draft picks with skill. We can't keep asking him to take on the Nick Hayden's of the world and keep making them serviceable and ask him to go out there and field a legit defense.

But make no mistake. No one knows if Randle can or can't handle the load next year. People don't value him because everyone wants the big splash guy like AP or a Gurley.

Cowboy fans spent all year touting how great this offensive line was last year and then want to trade 1st rounders for AP or draft a back in the 1st round. You have Randle, Dunbar and Ryan Williams who don't have much wear and tear on their bodies thanks to us overworking Murray. And then you have the vet McFadden.

Cowboys running game will be fine next year. Maybe not for fantasy players but for the Cowboys it will be. The run game is the least of my concern.

Agree with this with one exception.....who gets the majority of carries on 3rd/4th and one and goal-line? That is my only concern. I think that we will have zero problems between the 20's, it is the "tough" yards that raises questions for me.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Randle's improvement from his rookie year to last is encouraging. I think his play merits a chance.

 

[AzorAhai]

Because I haven't seen him break a tackle or two like Murray did occasionally. When the defense got their hands on him he went down pretty easily.

I'll be a believer if he's the featured back running 6-7 yards a carry consistently.

I'm not saying he's a Lynch clone or anything, but I posted a vine earlier in the thread where he blows through 2 arm tackles and takes it to the house. I think me and you mostly agree on his role, but I think I'm a little higher on him than you.

 

[windjc]

Just to play devil's advocate:

http://sportswunderkind.com/player-evaluation-joseph-randle-rb-osu/

I don't remember how Randle's pass blocking has been since being drafted but whichever RB does that best will probably be the starter. We all know this team ain't going nowhere if Romo goes down.

I don't care what his 40 times were. He can out run a defense, he's proven that. And thats all you need to do.

 

[ConstantReboot]

OH well I don't think he's as physical of a back as Murray. But Murray couldn't hit the home run so did they make him a complete back?

I'm not quite sold on Randle either being a physical back but as a complete one? I think he is more complete than Murray was. But as of now, I don't know if he does anything great or exceptional like Murray did. Murray was incredibly physical.

His YPC is probably a bit skewed because of the big runs he had but I saw such a progression between year 1 and 2 for Randle that I expect it to continue.

And Randle isn't a small guy. I don't know if he wears small shoulder pads or what but his height and weight aren't small. But the guy looks small on the field for some reason.

I think its a matter of opinion. Murray can do just about everything except take it to the house. Randle does have that ability. But when it comes to short yardage or gaining those extra yards after a hit that is where Murray excels. Randle is great in the open. But when he gets hit he goes down.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Agree with this with one exception.....who gets the majority of carries on 3rd/4th and one and goal-line? That is my only concern. I think that we will have zero problems between the 20's, it is the "tough" yards that raises questions for me.

I would like to think its McFadden but I truly don't see why Randle can't handle it with this offensive line. There are going to be those times where you are going to need the back to fight for an extra inch or two. Especially on Goal line situations. But with this offensive line and Randle's quickness? I don't see how it would be a problem.