Josh Norman signs with Commanders

[Qbert]

The only argument to be made is that there was a drop off from the previous year. That's the only statement that I've made. Can you dispute that?

You should really look stuff up before posting. They had the exact ypc in 2014 and 2015 and as I said no qb threat in all but 2 whole games and parts of 2. Gave up 3 more sacks than 2014 with much less mobile qbs than romo

 

[sideon]

Over the first 14 weeks of the season, Norman held DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, TY Hilton, Dez Bryant, and Julio Jones to a combined 9 receptions for 89 yards.

For the season, opposing quarterbacks had a passer rating of 54.0 when throwing at Norman, the lowest rating allowed by all NFL corners

Please take Dez out of that because we know why he was a non factor.

 

[Stryker44]

This is ridiculous. Grossly overpaid - dude should be signed to a reasonable contact to play for the honor of the Commander and the legacy Joe Gibbs created.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

This is ridiculous. Grossly overpaid - dude should be signed to a reasonable contact to play for the honor of the Commander and the legacy Joe Gibbs created.

I do actually think that this contract is too much, but based off your previous statements, I have to ask, what do you think should happen to the nearly $10 billion the NFL makes annually? Realistically speaking, lowering ticket, merchandise or TV prices is unrealistic and is not going to happen, so what happens to this huge pile of money the NFL makes? Do the struggling owners just get more, because it's clear you do not know what a reasonable contract by today's standards is.

 

[bh32]

You guys so overate Dez..He is not the best WR in the game or in NFL history like you make him out to be..I don't know many times i have seen him disappear in games or get shut down by rookie CB's
What he is good at is redzone TD's.He can't take a 5yard pass and turn it into a 95 yard TD...

 

[Sydla]

For what it's worth..

@AlbertBreer
Reality of Commanders CB Josh Norman's deal: 2 yrs, $36.5 million, fully guaranteed; $500K in per-game roster bonuses in '17. Then, options.

@AlbertBreer 3h3 hours ago
Another key for Commanders: By the time McCloughan's draft picks start becoming eligible for 2nd contracts, they can bail from Norman's deal.

I'm not trying to convince anyone it's a good signing, but it's interesting to see some details.

Sound contract. Your GM is legit despite the homers around here.

 

[BobGriffin3]

It's funny listening to comments about the contract and he's so overrated, blah blah blah. Meanwhile a few days ago when he hit free agency the Cowboys were going to sign him and he was the best cornerback ever to play and you were going right to the superbowl. What's the difference if you signed him or we did? Did you think you were getting him to play for the Cowboys let alone any team at 10 million a year? We have the cap space this year and have $50 million in cap space next year with only Reed and Kirk to sign. This deal is technically ONLY a 2 year deal with the ability to excercise 3rd, 4th and 5th if we want. That decision will be Josh's whether he keeps playing at a high level after the 2nd year.

 

[Qbert]

It's funny listening to comments about the contract and he's so overrated, blah blah blah. Meanwhile a few days ago when he hit free agency the Cowboys were going to sign him and he was the best cornerback ever to play and you were going right to the superbowl. What's the difference if you signed him or we did? Did you think you were getting him to play for the Cowboys let alone any team at 10 million a year? We have the cap space this year and have $50 million in cap space next year with only Reed and Kirk to sign. This deal is technically ONLY a 2 year deal with the ability to excercise 3rd, 4th and 5th if we want. That decision will be Josh's whether he keeps playing at a high level after the 2nd year.

You must have selective memory, this board rarely if ever agree on anything, sure there were some that wanted him, maybe even a majority, but there's a lot like me that don't want older players with one year of decent play on a vastly superior team than the skids in a contract year.

 

[bh32]

You must have selective memory, this board rarely if ever agree on anything, sure there were some that wanted him, maybe even a majority, but there's a lot like me that don't want older players with one year of decent play on a vastly superior team than the skids in a contract year.

You guys are so full of crap...always making excuses for your teams failure to sign someone..Then the excuse becomes the player is old and sucks anyways..News flash your team is old and sucks..You overate your OL..They are not the best in the NFL and stats prove it

 

[NIBGoldenchild]

It's a joke. Just when I was worried DC had figured out how to build a team, Snyder joins NY and Philly in mortgaging the future. Regardless of how this season goes, if Jerry can just avoid losing his mind, we will have a chance to own the East in the future.

No, Norman isn't even close to the top CB in the NFL. He's much more comfortable in the zone scheme; Skins will ask him to play much more man to man. He will be a huge upgrade over what they had, true, but 50 mil guaranteed? They owe him 14-15 mil this year, yet they currently have only 11.4 mil. Restructures can cover that, but they also have to find millions to pay a draft class. They wanted Cousins to play on the franchise tag and prove he can do it two years in a row, but now they may have to sign him to a long term big contract to lower his hit this year. If Cousins returns to his previous years of crazy turnovers, this could be more fun than RGIII. Norman will be 29 before the season, and this was his breakout season, with a SB-bound defense that was sack crazy. He had a career high 4 ints, 16 passes defended, and 56 tackles in 16 games.

Yes, he will help the Skins secondary...no doubt. But that's his career year at 29 years old behind one of the top NFL pass rushes. This contract will exact a heavy toll that is highly unlikely to balance out with dividends.

Congrats. There is almost nothing in this post that is true, and yet it is impressive that you wrote so much.

1) the skins signing one big name free agent doesn't equal what NY and Philly has done all offseason. Try to stick to the facts.
2) Josh Norman won't be 29 until December.
3) The Skins don't run anymore man coverage than the Panthers do, and regardless, he held Beckham in check with a lot of man coverage.
4) the Skins are likely to release Andre Roberts and Perry Riley, two backups who will save the team close to another 11 million on the cap. So that nonsense speculation you threw in about them changing their plans with Cousins is just wishful thinking on your part.

 

[Qbert]

Lol I love your arguments supported by zero facts, but what should I expect from a skids fans. If you actually did a little research the Cowboys were 14th in average age in 2015, hardly old. As far as not signing anybody you obviously don't know that Jerry has given more power to Stephen and Garrett in building the team ex. Martin over manziel but that too hard to find anything about that anywhere online. And as far as the OL use whatever metrics you want old school from scouts or new analytics from sites like pro football focus say their top 2 at least but I'm sure their just all cowboy fans too. So why don't you make your way back to ES and celebrate another off-season super bowl and worry about your team and qb actually, you know, beating a team with a winning record

 

[bh32]

Lol I love your arguments supported by zero facts, but what should I expect from a skids fans. If you actually did a little research the Cowboys were 14th in average age in 2015, hardly old. As far as not signing anybody you obviously don't know that Jerry has given more power to Stephen and Garrett in building the team ex. Martin over manziel but that too hard to find anything about that anywhere online. And as far as the OL use whatever metrics you want old school from scouts or new analytics from sites like pro football focus say their top 2 at least but I'm sure their just all cowboy fans too. So why don't you make your way back to ES and celebrate another off-season super bowl and worry about your team and qb actually, you know, beating a team with a winning record[/q
Ok how old is Romo or Witten? just because the average is 14th dosen't mean a damn thing since the younger players have to be worth a crap in the first place..Your team has no young useful depth at all..Thats why when you lost Dez and Romo your team crapped the bed..

 

[bh32]

Oh and bragging about stephen and Garrett as roster builders is a joke...They weren't the people behind drafting Fredrick or Martin..That was all Callahan and the proof is in that worthless draft your team had last year where not a single player they drafted made any impact..Maybe one day you will get a real GM

 

[Qbert]

Lol ok no young players, the entire OL
Take you 10 mins to think of that overrated Callahan narrative? look at the ypc stats the last 2 years and he's so important and if he is so important why does your running game suck? funny how all these old sucky players went 12 and 4 in 2014 was off to a 2 and 0 start this year before Romo got hurt. Keep drinking all the red and yellow kool aid, it will be even funnier when you end up in 3rd this year, I guess Byron jones wasn't productive, sees how much you actually know. Do some research instead of being just a troll

 

[bh32]

Maybe you should look who was leading in rushing last year before they lost their center and left guard...well if Romo is so good why did he suck so bad on thanksgiving when he came back?What did he post a 50 something rating and two pick six's? 79 overall rating for the games he played...lol.. If your team has so much talent why couldn't they win more than 4 games? you lost like three players where the Commanders lost more players to injury than any team last year and still won the east..Whats your excuse?

 

[Qbert]

I'll give you a heads up the panthers defense is pretty good they destroyed your team lol, so you can use excuses for your bad run game but I can't for a bad record? I guess that's fair in the delusional mind do a skids fan. And I don't know if you watch much football but the qb is pretty important so comparing losing 2 spare OL to a qb is pretty stupid. Go look at the teams that have lost qbs for the majority of their seasons and few of them are good save NE the year they lost Brady. If you had seen any of the cowboy games you'd know they were in most of them before the defense wore out from no help from the offense but that's just an excuse, right? Lol

 

[bh32]

I'll give you a heads up the panthers defense is pretty good they destroyed your team lol, so you can use excuses for your bad run game but I can't for a bad record? I guess that's fair in the delusional mind do a skids fan. And I don't know if you watch much football but the qb is pretty important so comparing losing 2 spare OL to a qb is pretty stupid. Go look at the teams that have lost qbs for the majority of their seasons and few of them are good save NE the year they lost Brady. If you had seen any of the cowboy games you'd know they were in most of them before the defense wore out from no help from the offense but that's just an excuse, right? Lol

But i thought you had the best OL in the NFL...Any QB should be able to win behind such a beastly OL..Yet your QB's were sacked more and threw for less yards,TD's than a crappy second rate player in Cousins..I mean your team has such better players why couldn't they win more games than the Commanders?

 

[Qbert]

Don't look at me to bash cousins, never have. I don't know if he's a one year wonder like a Foles or if he's the real deal, time will tell that. The Cowboys had crap for backup qb, still do, but even a talented team needs some level of decent qb play unless your defense is great which I've never said Dallas' were

 

[bh32]

Don't look at me to bash cousins, never have. I don't know if he's a one year wonder like a Foles or if he's the real deal, time will tell that. The Cowboys had crap for backup qb, still do, but even a talented team needs some level of decent qb play unless your defense is great which I've never said Dallas' were

I can agree with that...Nothing personal against you..it's all in fun..we will see about Cousins

 

[Qbert]

You know the great thing is we'll have proof. If I'm wrong I'll admit it. week 2 and thanksgiving will be fun. It'd be nice to have this rivalry be something special again