Julius Jones has got to go

[swj010]

I have finally decided my opinion regarding him. Julius Jones has got to go, because of two reasons:

1. He has absolutely no vision. The hole has to be where it is, or he is running into the pile.

2. He never can break a tackle. The first hit he goes down, and forward progress isn't happening.

I'm beginning to think our run-blocking is a product of Julius Jones just falling on his face the first time his ankle gets touched.

There's third reason. It will be cheaper to get someone in the draft to serve as the change of pace back for MB III.

 

[firehawk350]

I think Jones is a better receiving threat out of the backfield personally. But that's about it. But you feed the ball to Barber too much like they did in the middle of the season, and he loses his effectiveness. Jones isn't worth the money he's going to ask for, but you are still going to need a decent back to change the pace. Plenty of fast backs out there.

 

[superpunk]

Barber is the primary back. Barber got 17 carries to Jones 9 carries last night and has 162 on the season to Julius 133.. Garrett will play the hot hand. That will probably be Barber most of the time, but Jones can be productive. He was productive in the playoffs last season.

I wish I could believe that. For now, we seem to be doggedly sticking to our rotation routine, even when it's 4th and 2 and Barber should clearly be in the game.

 

[kingwhicker]

Don't worry. He won't be here next year.

 

[NewJCowboy]

This is for all the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" fans in here. If he can't make it on 4th and 2..... IT'S BROKEN.... It needs to be fixed...

Last year, Barber was the WORST in the league at making 4th and short. I guess we should get rid of him too

 

[smarta5150]

I will admit I was always defending JJ but you guys are right.

However, its not JJ's fault he was in on 4th and short. I blame the coaches for that.

BUT JJ still has to make that :bang2:

MBIII should be getting the majority of the carries.

Its pretty obvious now.

 

[faninjersey]

The biggest problem that Julius has is that he only runs in 5th gear. Barber takes a handoff, and then has the patience to let his blockers block. It seems that Jones is running up the OL's backs, before they can even engage anyone.

Draws force the runningback to wait before they accept the handoff, and that's why I think he runs them better. If he would learn to be patient he would look a lot better.

 

[eduncan22]

It doesn't matter....

We want to win a Super Bowl.

 

[cboyd]

wow a lot of you do not know football at all. These are the same type of people who does not see talent. For example some people were like Bobby Carpenter is going to be a Beast in the NFL because he seems to make plays in the college level. However, I was one of those people who knew that he was not going to do well at all he just had to many flaws in his game. Same with Tony Romo when people were saying Drew Henson was going to be much better than Tony Romo. People do not watch players games at all. So how does this relate with the Julius question? Well just think about when Emitt and Hambrick. It was obviously noticable to see that his stats was patted. But most people were wanting Hambrick to be the starter, well he got his chance and produced nothing. We scheme plans for Barber to take his runs to the outside. You see the linemen push their guys into a pack allowing Barber to take it to the outside. Julius takes the dirty job and haves to be the one to run it up the middle most the time. While Barber gets to take it in the 4th quarter after our monsterous offensive line has already worn out the defense. So Barbers running style is much easier to get yards and make them look good. Now you can tell that Julius does get big yards when we use his style of running to his best ability which is in space. Dont get me wrong Barber is a good pounder. But give Julius props for setting up Barber. Like someone said if Julius is having a bad day then its like haves to go right now he is not a true Cowboy. While Barber if he haves a bad day its ok because he is a true Cowboy. Well they are both good backs in their own way and they are both Cowboys as of this moment, so support them. Neither of them are trouble makers. If you dont support BOTH backs that means you are rooting against your own team.

 

[smarta5150]

wow a lot of you do not know football at all. These are the same type of people who does not see talent. For example some people were like Bobby Carpenter is going to be a Beast in the NFL because he seems to make plays in the college level. However, I was one of those people who knew that he was not going to do well at all he just had to many flaws in his game. Same with Tony Romo when people were saying Drew Henson was going to be much better than Tony Romo. People do not watch players games at all. So how does this relate with the Julius question? Well just think about when Emitt and Hambrick. It was obviously noticable to see that his stats was patted. But most people were wanting Hambrick to be the starter, well he got his chance and produced nothing. We scheme plans for Barber to take his runs to the outside. You see the linemen push their guys into a pack allowing Barber to take it to the outside. Julius takes the dirty job and haves to be the one to run it up the middle most the time. While Barber gets to take it in the 4th quarter after our monsterous offensive line has already worn out the defense. So Barbers running style is much easier to get yards and make them look good. Now you can tell that Julius does get big yards when we use his style of running to his best ability which is in space. Dont get me wrong Barber is a good pounder. But give Julius props for setting up Barber. Like someone said if Julius is having a bad day then its like haves to go right now he is not a true Cowboy. While Barber if he haves a bad day its ok because he is a true Cowboy. Well they are both good backs in their own way and they are both Cowboys as of this moment, so support them. Neither of them are trouble makers. If you dont support BOTH backs that means you are rooting against your own team.

Ow, my eyes and head.

Whats that line about a bus full of English teachers?

I never comment about grammar but wow.

 

[superpunk]

wow a lot of you do not know football at all. These are the same type of people who does not see talent. For example some people were like Bobby Carpenter is going to be a Beast in the NFL because he seems to make plays in the college level. However, I was one of those people who knew that he was not going to do well at all he just had to many flaws in his game. Same with Tony Romo when people were saying Drew Henson was going to be much better than Tony Romo. People do not watch players games at all. So how does this relate with the Julius question? Well just think about when Emitt and Hambrick. It was obviously noticable to see that his stats was patted. But most people were wanting Hambrick to be the starter, well he got his chance and produced nothing. We scheme plans for Barber to take his runs to the outside. You see the linemen push their guys into a pack allowing Barber to take it to the outside. Julius takes the dirty job and haves to be the one to run it up the middle most the time. While Barber gets to take it in the 4th quarter after our monsterous offensive line has already worn out the defense. So Barbers running style is much easier to get yards and make them look good. Now you can tell that Julius does get big yards when we use his style of running to his best ability which is in space. Dont get me wrong Barber is a good pounder. But give Julius props for setting up Barber. Like someone said if Julius is having a bad day then its like haves to go right now he is not a true Cowboy. While Barber if he haves a bad day its ok because he is a true Cowboy. Well they are both good backs in their own way and they are both Cowboys as of this moment, so support them. Neither of them are trouble makers. If you dont support BOTH backs that means you are rooting against your own team.

I;m not going to comment on the Hambone references, because they are foolish, and I shouldn't have to.

But - we do not scheme Barber's outside runs. That is just his instinct and natural ability shining, when a guy like Julius would opt to doggedly slam into the hole and stick with the play.

Because apparently Parcells is still roboticizing him and hamstringing Spears.

Noone's rooting against Julius. We just realize he's about finished here. But in-game? Go JJ!

 

[cboyd]

Actually I have video proof that is preety obvious that we scheme Barber to take it to the outside. My brother who actually is a big Barber fan actually agreed after showing video. If I knew how to show it on here and had the technology then I would show it and would be 99% sure you would agree. Not to mention there is a reason why they are having Julius for the most part play as much as Barber. If they thought it was just a much one sided thing then Barber would be the main guy and Julius would only get 10% of the carries. They have a system and they are not going to change it if its working. Winning games means that its working. I never brought up Parcells so dont bring that into the topic. We have two good backs this year. You are right Julius may be out of here. But I promise if we get a back in the first round we will not keep Barber for the long haul. Who knows we made trade our two first and Barber to get Mcfadden.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I have finally decided my opinion regarding him. Julius Jones has got to go, because of two reasons:

1. He has absolutely no vision. The hole has to be where it is, or he is running into the pile.

2. He never can break a tackle. The first hit he goes down, and forward progress isn't happening.

I'm beginning to think our run-blocking is a product of Julius Jones just falling on his face the first time his ankle gets touched.

Ref #1 - does he need glasses ?

You are correct.....not sure what has happen to him.

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

This is for all the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" fans in here. If he can't make it on 4th and 2..... IT'S BROKEN.... It needs to be fixed...

This is just plain silly. You can not put that solely on the running back.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I heard someone mention Barber and Tomlinson in the same breath last night

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

I just wish people could enjoy a win. I mean we have like 10 days till the next game. Jones went 4 weeks without many of these posts and then bam, here it is again.

He had the big catch for 21 yards to get us in position to tie early in the game and also had some nice runs. The biggest difference this game: We tried pounding him up the middle again.

I think the real reason these are popping up again is because Barber got almost twice the carries and Jones failed a 4th and 2.

 

[silverblue]

It wsa just a few games ago that barber had 3 straight runs and could not get a first down from 2 yards. It happens sometimes to even the best running backs, but it does seem to happen more often to Barber than Julius

 

[ethiostar]

I agree that JuJo didn't have the hole/lane that was supposed to be there on that 4th and short play. LD didn't create the hole like he was supposed to. But, that is exactly the MAIN difference between him and MBIII. On that play JuJo simply put his head DOWN and run toward where the hole was SUPPOSED to be and altimately run right into LD's big rear end. On the other hand, on that 3rd and short play with MBIII, he started to go where he expected the hole to be and kept his head UP and when the lane wasn't there he made a cut and gained 17 yards.

I'm not one of those who want to see MBIII start over JuJo, frankley i don't give a rats *** who starts, in fact i love seeing MBIII in the 4th quarter wearing down and punishing defenders. But, on short yardage running plays, i want to see MBIII in the game, he simply has better vision, strength, and determination to pick up the first down more times than not.

 

[Hong2221]

I don't believe in benching JJ. It's obvious Barber produces better numbers. But you got to look past this. JJ isn't a bad back. Unless we could pick up a decent back in the draft next year I don't see any reason to cut JJ. I believe Barber excells better in a 2 back system.

 

[BBQ101]

wow a lot of you do not know football at all. These are the same type of people who does not see talent. For example some people were like Bobby Carpenter is going to be a Beast in the NFL because he seems to make plays in the college level. However, I was one of those people who knew that he was not going to do well at all he just had to many flaws in his game. Same with Tony Romo when people were saying Drew Henson was going to be much better than Tony Romo. People do not watch players games at all. So how does this relate with the Julius question? Well just think about when Emitt and Hambrick. It was obviously noticable to see that his stats was patted. But most people were wanting Hambrick to be the starter, well he got his chance and produced nothing. We scheme plans for Barber to take his runs to the outside. You see the linemen push their guys into a pack allowing Barber to take it to the outside. Julius takes the dirty job and haves to be the one to run it up the middle most the time. While Barber gets to take it in the 4th quarter after our monsterous offensive line has already worn out the defense. So Barbers running style is much easier to get yards and make them look good. Now you can tell that Julius does get big yards when we use his style of running to his best ability which is in space. Dont get me wrong Barber is a good pounder. But give Julius props for setting up Barber. Like someone said if Julius is having a bad day then its like haves to go right now he is not a true Cowboy. While Barber if he haves a bad day its ok because he is a true Cowboy. Well they are both good backs in their own way and they are both Cowboys as of this moment, so support them. Neither of them are trouble makers. If you dont support BOTH backs that means you are rooting against your own team.

I may not know football like you claim too, but I sure as hell know how to use and enter key for some simple spacing. Read a simple book on writing, because white space is important!

I tried to read what you said, but I just can't do it as your writing is the equivalent to trying to decifer what Boomhower says on King of the Hill. It can probably be done, but it is not worth the time.

I would submit to you that even if you know football as your claim, learning to write effectively would serve your far more in the real world. Heck, it will serve you far better here. This is a forum whos main mode of communication is through the written word.

I don't want to come across as a spell checker type, or a grammar freak, because I am not. Heck I can't spell for crap, but when you write something like that, it gives me the impression you just don't give a damn. Take a look for yourself. Do you like to read ten lines of unbroken text?

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