Julius Jones has got to go

[cboyd]

I may not know football like you claim too, but I sure as hell know how to use and enter key for some simple spacing. Read a simple book on writing, because white space is important!

I tried to read what you said, but I just can't do it as your writing is the equivalent to trying to decifer what Boomhower says on King of the Hill. It can probably be done, but it is not worth the time.

I would submit to you that even if you know football as your claim, learning to write effectively would serve your far more in the real world. Heck, it will serve you far better here. This is a forum whos main mode of communication is through the written word.

I don't want to come across as a spell checker type, or a grammar freak, because I am not. Heck I can't spell for crap, but when you write something like that, it gives me the impression you just don't give a damn. Take a look for yourself. Do you like to read ten lines of unbroken text?

BBQ

Ok for one if you dont read what I write then dont say anything. You dont have to read it all. Its an opinion, I was just stating what I thought was obvious. Sorry that I am not a major writer. I didnt know that you look for major writeres around here, my bad. Again dont judge someones writing unless you read it. Thats called poor judgement on your part. It would be just as helpful to read than it is to write in the real world. I never used the word "everyone" didnt know football. Its sad when you attack someones writing before reading it. If you dont want to read it then don't. Its that simple. I dont have to write something for just your pleasure. Its a danm opinion get over it.

 

[AmishCowboy]

JJ is good in the role we have him in, he will never be a star, but he's productive when used right.

 

[BBQ101]

Ok for one if you dont read what I write then dont say anything. You dont have to read it all. Its an opinion, I was just stating what I thought was obvious. Sorry that I am not a major writer. I didnt know that you look for major writeres around here, my bad. Again dont judge someones writing unless you read it. Thats called poor judgement on your part. It would be just as helpful to read than it is to write in the real world. I never used the word "everyone" didnt know football. Its sad when you attack someones writing before reading it. If you dont want to read it then don't. Its that simple. I dont have to write something for just your pleasure. Its a danm opinion get over it.

Ok, I actually took the time to read what you wrote here. Couple of counter points.

1) I am not commenting on what you wrote, as I didn't read it. I am however commenting on the way it was written. I don't need to read the whole thing to know the formatting is completely screwed. So your beef that I can't comment on what you said because I didn't read it is completely irelevant to my argument. I don't think I was using poor judgement at all.

2) You don't need to be a "major writer" to get your point across on these forums. For pete's sake, I am a terrible writter, but I do know what is and isn't easy to read. I don't think that using the "enter" key to create paragraphs for each thought in your writting is a skill held only by "major writers". It's in my opinion a fundamental component to trying to communicate effectively when the medium is written text.

3) I never wrote that you think "everyone didn't know football". My post was simply to point out that your points would be more readable if you used the enter key to create some white space between the points of your post.


As an example, which would you rather read? My text above, which uses white space among other tools to effectively make my point, or the example below which is the same text I wrote above except no whitespace:


Ok, I actually took the time to read what you wrote here. Couple of counter points. 1) I am not commenting on what you wrote, as I didn't read it. I am however commenting on the way it was written. I don't need to read the whole thing to know the formatting is completely screwed. So your beef that I can't comment on what you said because I didn't read it is completely irelevant to my argument. I don't think I was using poor judgement at all. 2) You don't need to be a "major writer" to get your point across on these forums. I don't think that using the "enter" key to create paragraphs for each thought in your writting is a skill held only by "major writers". It's in my opinion a fundamental component to trying to communicate when the medium is written text. 3) I never wrote that you think "everyone didn't know football". My post was simply to point out that your points would be more readable if you used the enter key to create some white space between the points of your post.


It doesn't take much effort to hit a single key (enter) to clarify the points you are trying to make. I am not trying to be a jerk cboyd. For all I know you are making good points in your post. However your style of writting makes it far more difficult than it needs to be to decifer your points. Especially if you have more than a few sentences.

Maybe I am the only one that thinks this way. You are correct I don't have to read what you write if I don't want to. I don't expect you to change simply because of the diffuculty I find in trying to read what you write. I was only trying to make a point that your writting would be more effective if you added some white space once in a while.

BBQ

 

[ethiostar]

Ok, I actually took the time to read what you wrote here. Couple of counter points.

1) I am not commenting on what you wrote, as I didn't read it. I am however commenting on the way it was written. I don't need to read the whole thing to know the formatting is completely screwed. So your beef that I can't comment on what you said because I didn't read it is completely irelevant to my argument. I don't think I was using poor judgement at all.

2) You don't need to be a "major writer" to get your point across on these forums. For pete's sake, I am a terrible writter, but I do know what is and isn't easy to read. I don't think that using the "enter" key to create paragraphs for each thought in your writting is a skill held only by "major writers". It's in my opinion a fundamental component to trying to communicate effectively when the medium is written text.

3) I never wrote that you think "everyone didn't know football". My post was simply to point out that your points would be more readable if you used the enter key to create some white space between the points of your post.


As an example, which would you rather read? My text above, which uses white space among other tools to effectively make my point, or the example below which is the same text I wrote above except no whitespace:


Ok, I actually took the time to read what you wrote here. Couple of counter points. 1) I am not commenting on what you wrote, as I didn't read it. I am however commenting on the way it was written. I don't need to read the whole thing to know the formatting is completely screwed. So your beef that I can't comment on what you said because I didn't read it is completely irelevant to my argument. I don't think I was using poor judgement at all. 2) You don't need to be a "major writer" to get your point across on these forums. I don't think that using the "enter" key to create paragraphs for each thought in your writting is a skill held only by "major writers". It's in my opinion a fundamental component to trying to communicate when the medium is written text. 3) I never wrote that you think "everyone didn't know football". My post was simply to point out that your points would be more readable if you used the enter key to create some white space between the points of your post.


It doesn't take much effort to hit a single key (enter) to clarify the points you are trying to make. I am not trying to be a jerk cboyd. For all I know you are making good points in your post. However your style of writting makes it far more difficult than it needs to be to decifer your points. Especially if you have more than a few sentences.

Maybe I am the only one that thinks this way. You are correct I don't have to read what you write if I don't want to. I don't expect you to change simply because of the diffuculty I find in trying to read what you write. I was only trying to make a point that your writting would be more effective if you added some white space once in a while.

BBQ

Can you come in and talk to my students once in a while, i have a hard time reading thier essays.

 

[AbeBeta]

Look at the numbers... JJ has had mediocre games all season. It's not just a random one time deal. The majority of Barbers carries come at a point in the game when the defense knows we are gonna run the ball. Late 4th quarter with the lead, goalline, short yardage. If he has a mediocre game its because we were predictable and the opponent knew it was coming, not because he ran into the pile and fell down.

Look at the PLAY. Julius was clearly a very good contributor in many of our games.

You can attribute mediocre games to Barber playing in predictable situations but if you do that then you need to recognize that much of his rush yardage comes late in games against tired Ds.

 

[FCBarca]

I just wish people could enjoy a win. I mean we have like 10 days till the next game. Jones went 4 weeks without many of these posts and then bam, here it is again.

He had the big catch for 21 yards to get us in position to tie early in the game and also had some nice runs. The biggest difference this game: We tried pounding him up the middle again.

I think the real reason these are popping up again is because Barber got almost twice the carries and Jones failed a 4th and 2.

Apparently, reflection, critiques and dissent are synonymous with disloyalty

 

[mboy22]

Originally Posted by cboyd
wow a lot of you do not know football at all. These are the same type of people who does not see talent. For example some people were like Bobby Carpenter is going to be a Beast in the NFL because he seems to make plays in the college level. However, I was one of those people who knew that he was not going to do well at all he just had to many flaws in his game. Same with Tony Romo when people were saying Drew Henson was going to be much better than Tony Romo. People do not watch players games at all. So how does this relate with the Julius question? Well just think about when Emitt and Hambrick. It was obviously noticable to see that his stats was patted. But most people were wanting Hambrick to be the starter, well he got his chance and produced nothing. We scheme plans for Barber to take his runs to the outside. You see the linemen push their guys into a pack allowing Barber to take it to the outside. Julius takes the dirty job and haves to be the one to run it up the middle most the time. While Barber gets to take it in the 4th quarter after our monsterous offensive line has already worn out the defense. So Barbers running style is much easier to get yards and make them look good. Now you can tell that Julius does get big yards when we use his style of running to his best ability which is in space. Dont get me wrong Barber is a good pounder. But give Julius props for setting up Barber. Like someone said if Julius is having a bad day then its like haves to go right now he is not a true Cowboy. While Barber if he haves a bad day its ok because he is a true Cowboy. Well they are both good backs in their own way and they are both Cowboys as of this moment, so support them. Neither of them are trouble makers. If you dont support BOTH backs that means you are rooting against your own team.


I may not know football like you claim too, but I sure as hell know how to use and enter key for some simple spacing. Read a simple book on writing, because white space is important!

I tried to read what you said, but I just can't do it as your writing is the equivalent to trying to decifer what Boomhower says on King of the Hill. It can probably be done, but it is not worth the time.

I would submit to you that even if you know football as your claim, learning to write effectively would serve your far more in the real world. Heck, it will serve you far better here. This is a forum whos main mode of communication is through the written word.

I don't want to come across as a spell checker type, or a grammar freak, because I am not. Heck I can't spell for crap, but when you write something like that, it gives me the impression you just don't give a damn. Take a look for yourself. Do you like to read ten lines of unbroken text?


Man, I could read what he was trying to say just fine, this isn't grammar school, this is a forum, so don't treat it like grammar school.

If you don't want to read it because you think it is too buntched up to read then don't read it, and if you yourself cannot spell or use grammar correctly then don't sit there and criticize someone elses' work. NOW BACK TO TALKING DALLAS COWBOYS FOOTBALL WHO ARE NOW 11-1, YEAH BABY!!!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

if we want to maximize Jones, we should line up in a passing formation on 1st down, similar to what the Seahawks were doing in their Super Bowl year, and throw it to him out of the backfield, that seems to be the only way we can get Jones out in space, because when he is, he's pretty good, although he's not making people miss like his 1st 2 years, but he still gains good yardage because he does have a good burst

and continue to have him run the draw play, but setting in a running formation and handing him the ball hardly ever works, because he hits the hole too fast instead of letting his blocks develop, the dude simply has no vision whatsoever

 

[khiladi]

Actually I have video proof that is preety obvious that we scheme Barber to take it to the outside. My brother who actually is a big Barber fan actually agreed after showing video. If I knew how to show it on here and had the technology then I would show it and would be 99% sure you would agree. Not to mention there is a reason why they are having Julius for the most part play as much as Barber. If they thought it was just a much one sided thing then Barber would be the main guy and Julius would only get 10% of the carries. They have a system and they are not going to change it if its working. Winning games means that its working. I never brought up Parcells so dont bring that into the topic. We have two good backs this year. You are right Julius may be out of here. But I promise if we get a back in the first round we will not keep Barber for the long haul. Who knows we made trade our two first and Barber to get Mcfadden.

So what your saying is that we consistently run JJ into the middle of the OL to gain no yardage, so that we can set everything for Barber later in the game.

I can imagine Garrett right now telling JJ...

"Just run straight into the OL's back so that you can tire out the DL for Barber in the 4th."

 

[mboy22]

So what your saying is that we consistently run JJ into the middle of the OL to gain no yardage, so that we can set everything for Barber later in the game.

I can imagine Garrett right now telling JJ...

There are times in the game where it seems that there are certain plays called for the O-lineman to bunch up in the middle, so that Barber can bounce outside because this is what works for him. I had just noticed this while watching filim of Julius' runs compared to Barbers runs

 

[Bob Sacamano]

There are times in the game where it seems that there are certain plays called for the O-lineman to bunch up in the middle, so that Barber can bounce outside because this is what works for him. I had just noticed this while watching filim of Julius' runs compared to Barbers runs

then we have some stupid arse coaches if that's the case

bouncing runs outside is a recipe for a loss of yards, esp. when the Oline bunches up in the middle

 

[cboyd]

But the thing is that its working, and there is nothing wrong if its working. I am glad that they are doing it because any kind of sucess is a great thing.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

But the thing is that its working, and there is nothing wrong if its working. I am glad that they are doing it because any kind of sucess is a great thing.

I really doubt that that's the case

 

[mboy22]

The Reason it is working is because Barber is a stud. I like Julius too. whoever is a Dallas Cowboy I support no matter who it is.

 

[cboyd]

ok, think what you want, now dont get me wrong not every play is like that but a lot of them are like that. You may be in denial but thats what we have done and thats how we have had sucess. Now his great pounding is all him but you have to give the most credit to the O-line and coaches. Not stating that MBIII is a bad back by no means so if you happen to think that then dont take it that way.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

ok, think what you want, now dont get me wrong not every play is like that but a lot of them are like that. You may be in denial but thats what we have done and thats how we have had sucess. Now his great pounding is all him but you have to give the most credit to the O-line and coaches. Not stating that MBIII is a bad back by no means so if you happen to think that then dont take it that way.

no coach in their right mind would tell the O to bunch up while the RB bounces a run outside

 

[cboyd]

no what the deal is they block the D-line together so that allows more running room for the running back, its not just the Oline bunching up they are pushing the defensive guys together. Its not a bad plan and its showing that its working really well with Barbers pounding against linebackers

 

[Wolfpack]

wow a lot of you do not know football at all. These are the same type of people who does not see talent. For example some people were like Bobby Carpenter is going to be a Beast in the NFL because he seems to make plays in the college level. However, I was one of those people who knew that he was not going to do well at all he just had to many flaws in his game. Same with Tony Romo when people were saying Drew Henson was going to be much better than Tony Romo. People do not watch players games at all. So how does this relate with the Julius question? Well just think about when Emitt and Hambrick. It was obviously noticable to see that his stats was patted. But most people were wanting Hambrick to be the starter, well he got his chance and produced nothing. We scheme plans for Barber to take his runs to the outside. You see the linemen push their guys into a pack allowing Barber to take it to the outside. Julius takes the dirty job and haves to be the one to run it up the middle most the time. While Barber gets to take it in the 4th quarter after our monsterous offensive line has already worn out the defense. So Barbers running style is much easier to get yards and make them look good. Now you can tell that Julius does get big yards when we use his style of running to his best ability which is in space. Dont get me wrong Barber is a good pounder. But give Julius props for setting up Barber. Like someone said if Julius is having a bad day then its like haves to go right now he is not a true Cowboy. While Barber if he haves a bad day its ok because he is a true Cowboy. Well they are both good backs in their own way and they are both Cowboys as of this moment, so support them. Neither of them are trouble makers. If you dont support BOTH backs that means you are rooting against your own team.

Are you JJ's mom?

For what ever reason JJ is not getting the job done, period. The bar I was in last night had the Packer fans even saying he sucked.

 

[cboyd]

haha dude I love the two back system, and yes he did not have a good game last night. I am saying dont crucify Julius, we have a good two back system. Nothing wrong for standing up for a cowboy