Just a Thought On Romo

[CCBoy]

Not in the least.

There is no way you can assess what Romo will do because of a player who played the same position. Supposition, yes. Projecting...I project I will rise tomorrow and have another day of life. That projection is accurate until...you do that math, CC.

In theoretical math, that belongs in semantics...and humor.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I was all for letting Tony walk in free agency and starting over via the draft.

Since that is no longer an option: Ride em cowboy, bad back and all.

 

[CCBoy]

TwoDeep, if Romo has entered a funeral home, then the Jason Garrett parade just left town...

 

[Zimmy Lives]

TwoDeep, if Romo has entered a funeral home, then the Jason Garrett parade just left town...

Not only the Jason Garrett parade but the entire circus/fair/side show/theme park.

 

[CCBoy]

Not only the Jason Garrett parade but the entire circus/fair/side show/theme park.

Naw, not the theme park too!

 

[Idgit]

It actually not as drastic to cut Romo after this season as it seems.

You have to consider that his large base salary would be gone which offsets a big part of the dead-money.

If he is on the team in 2015, his cap hit is 27.7M (if they don't restructure it).
If he is not on the team in 2015 and is not a June 1st cut, then his cap hit is 27.4M or 34.9M depending on how you interpret a 7.5M guarantee in his contract.

That would indicate that they either gain 0.3M of cap space or lose 7.2M of cap space when comparing having him on the roster in 2015 to not having him on the roster in 2015. They could gain significant cap space in 2015 if he was a designated June 1st cut.

Careful not to step in the puddle of drizzled pequot. And thanks for digging that back up. I thought I'd seen you (or someone) post it before and thinking the additional hit wasn't all that tremendously bad. The real issue would be getting a decent replacement in the draft. Of course, if the premise of the thread is correct and his ability degenerated significantly enough over the course of the season for him to retire at year end, we'd probably have a top ten pick at least to try to replace him with. The real bummer would be not being able to adequately address the defense in that first round, yet again.

 

[CF74]

Just to put this in proper context - Welcome to last year when he was OFFERED the friggin contract...

I'm pretty sure you would've signed it too.

More importantly I would have never offered it...

 

[sureletsrace]

Let's say Romo is absolutely shot. Done. A bottom 5 starting QB.

If he were to step down, retire, leave the game, whatever, would the Cowboys still owe him the money from his contract?

Is there any way Tony could say, "Hey, I don't want the remainder of my contract to ruin the organization for the next 6 years. Keep the money."

Is that allowed, or a possibility? I just can't see Romo taking the remainder of his contract knowing he's hurting the teams future. He doesn't seem like that kind of guy.

Any contract gurus know? I've never really seen this kind of situation before.

 

[ufcrules1]

But what if this is the beginning of the end? With his cap hit, can you fathom just how screwed this franchise would be if he did a slow descent into retirement at the end of this season?

That idea scares the Hell out of me. Because that scenario puts Dallas behind the eightball for the next five years to the point without a bit of fortune in replacing Boy Wonder, this franchise is a bottom feeder.

You are just thinking about this now? The minute his contract was inked that was my thought. Still, I don't hold any ill will towards Romo, it's all Jerry's fault.

 

[ufcrules1]

Im a big Romo fan but he has never had the post season success to get that kind of money.


Dallas should've let him test the market and matched whatever his top offer would be.

No, we should have traded him for a #1 draft pick to some QB hungry team and in the meantime given up a 3rd for a QB like Alex Smith. Sure, Alex isn't the answer here but he would have easily gotten us to 8-8, same as Romo did.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Naw, not the theme park too!

Yup, and the kit and caboodle.

 

[TrailBlazer]

If he retires, were off the hook

 

[CF74]

$55-Mill is guaranteed so let's call that a retirement severance and move on...

 

[TwoDeep3]

If he retires, were off the hook

Not with that staggering upfront money he was paid.

 

[Wood]

My biggest concern in all of this is the front office isn't properly preparing for the inevitable. The front office has shown in past they don't possess the ability to think forward more than one season. It's why they are always chasing their tail. As far as I am concerned, Romo back is done. I waited 8 months to see him in action and my eyes rarely fail me. He lost lateral quickness which was his signature move to escape. Alot of commentary has focused on his possible declining arm strength but that all starts with a weakened base. His drive thru in his legs doesn't look as strong. You would expect this because squats are probably ruled out of his program after multiple back surgeries. He won't be able to avoid as many rushers and his legs won't get him from point A to point B to make those big throws like he did in past. Instead he will rely on the upgraded OL to keep him clean in pocket. I was impressed with OL in first game. But they can't hold this down forever, especially when defenses pin their ears back in games they have the lead. If I sat down with Stephen or Jerry, I promise you they don't have a contingent plan if Romo has to call it quits.

 

[xwalker]

Careful not to step in the puddle of drizzled pequot. And thanks for digging that back up. I thought I'd seen you (or someone) post it before and thinking the additional hit wasn't all that tremendously bad. The real issue would be getting a decent replacement in the draft. Of course, if the premise of the thread is correct and his ability degenerated significantly enough over the course of the season for him to retire at year end, we'd probably have a top ten pick at least to try to replace him with. The real bummer would be not being able to adequately address the defense in that first round, yet again.

Yes, my focus going into this season has been on 2015. My feeling is that Romo's back is OK all season which is a good indicator for 2015 OR his back fails and they draft a QB with a top 10 pick.

People panic about dead-money, but forget that when players are cut their massive base salaries are gone also. There is dead-money from cutting Ware, but they ended up with more cap space without him on the roster because his base salary is gone.

 

[xwalker]

My biggest concern in all of this is the front office isn't properly preparing for the inevitable. The front office has shown in past they don't possess the ability to think forward more than one season. It's why they are always chasing their tail. As far as I am concerned, Romo back is done. I waited 8 months to see him in action and my eyes rarely fail me. He lost lateral quickness which was his signature move to escape. Alot of commentary has focused on his possible declining arm strength but that all starts with a weakened base. His drive thru in his legs doesn't look as strong. You would expect this because squats are probably ruled out of his program after multiple back surgeries. He won't be able to avoid as many rushers and his legs won't get him from point A to point B to make those big throws like he did in past. Instead he will rely on the upgraded OL to keep him clean in pocket. I was impressed with OL in first game. But they can't hold this down forever, especially when defenses pin their ears back in games they have the lead. If I sat down with Stephen or Jerry, I promise you they don't have a contingent plan if Romo has to call it quits.

The INTs against the Niners were mental mistakes. His arm strength might or might not have declined, but the INTs were not due to arm strength issues.

 

[xwalker]

If he retires, were off the hook

Aikman retired...after the Cowboys cut him.

The only way Romo retires is if they Cowboys cut him first.

If the player is cut, they keep all bonus money. The team's cap issues are unaffected if the player retires after he is cut.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Careful not to step in the puddle of drizzled pequot. And thanks for digging that back up. I thought I'd seen you (or someone) post it before and thinking the additional hit wasn't all that tremendously bad. The real issue would be getting a decent replacement in the draft. Of course, if the premise of the thread is correct and his ability degenerated significantly enough over the course of the season for him to retire at year end, we'd probably have a top ten pick at least to try to replace him with. The real bummer would be not being able to adequately address the defense in that first round, yet again.

Unfortunately from, what I have read, this is not the year to be quarterback hunting.

 

[waving monkey]

Explain this to me. If this is the beginning of the end. Is there really a difference?

His beginning, "in the beginning" he did same crap.
His middle, "as he was getting better" (with experience) he did the same crap...

Now, if this is the beginning of the end, things will be..... What? Better? Better decisions?


There is faith and hope and believing... Then there is just knowing what is.... Who he is... What he will do. It's that simple.

I think all QB's make mistakes and Romo was a risk taker so his mistakes were glaring.
About four years ago Romo curtailed his cavalier ways and his interceptions dropped.
He'll always throw interceptions . Romo isn't a top five QB. The next several games are going to
tell a lot.