MarcusRock
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And Dez STILL didn't catch it in Green Bay. Blame Zeke's holdout .... for everything!
And Dez STILL didn't catch it in Green Bay. Blame Zeke's holdout .... for everything!
You wanna know what I wonder about more from that 2016 season? More than what would have happened if Romo was starting?
I wonder about how on gods green earth, Aaron Rodgers didn’t fumble that football on the final drive when Jeff Heath clobbered him from the blind side.
Rodgers has one hand on the football and for absolutely drilled. Somehow he managed to hold onto that ball. Next play he drives the dagger through all of our hearts.
That eats me up more than whether Romo should have played or not.
I would love to know what JJ, JG etc think about that decision now with the benefit of three seasons of hindsight.Yes. Jerry Jones, Jason Garrett and practically every single individual caught up into the euphoria/chemistry nonsense of the 2016 season. No exceptions.
However, it should also be noted that there was a small minority who both wanted Prescott as the starter and never thought he could lead the team to the Super Bowl that season. They simply wanted Romo gone since they had zero respect for him. Personally, I respect their opinion even though I disagree with it because it was not someone's own reasoning based on the chemistry fallacy.
The game you are talking about wasn't the 2016 game (which was in Dallas). It was the 2014 game in Green Bay. Lot of plays in that game contributed. I can't get mad at Demarco for that one though. It was an unreal play by Peppers. I can understand why Demarco didn't think anyone was going to touch him & he was just focused on getting to full speed. Every time i watch it, I am more amazed at Peppers effort and length to get his hand on the ball.Demarco Murray’s fumble. Biggest play of that game. If he holds onto that ball we win.
The game you are talking about wasn't the 2016 game (which was in Dallas). It was the 2014 game in Green Bay. Lot of plays in that game contributed. I can't get mad at Demarco for that one though. It was an unreal play by Peppers. I can understand why Demarco didn't think anyone was going to touch him & he was just focused on getting to full speed. Every time i watch it, I am more amazed at Peppers effort and length to get his hand on the ball.
Ahhh, gotcha.I know that. I was responding to MarcusRock when he mentioned the game where “Dez didn’t catch it”
For the 2016 playoff game to have been the 2014 playoff game all over again, you would have needed:
1. Elliott to fumble and lead to points for Green Bay (e.g. Murray 2014 playoff game).
2. Bryant to catch/not catch/<expletive> Blandino (e.g. Bryant 2014 playoff game) and subtract a likely six or seven points for Dallas.
Additionally
3. Prescott not throw an interception deep in Packer territory (e.g. something Romo did not do in the 2014 playoff game) and subtract three, six, or possible seven points on an earlier drive.
Every game is different. It could be Green Bay could have blown out Dallas in the 2016 playoff if certain game day conditions had been met. Likewise, Dallas could have blown out Green Bay if certain events had occurred.
However, using Romo as the only variable while comparing each respective playoff game does not logically work. In fact, it is arguable that it works more against Prescott and lessens the responsibility of the defense's actual failure during that specific game.
Dak, let's simplify this a bit. Forget defense for a second. Let's focus strictly on offense and what we can expect them to do given the opportunities they have against the defense they are facing.Call out my question as hyperbole but then throw out factually inaccurate comments to try and strengthen your point? Like “wait 3 quarters to wake up?
The offense scored 13 points in the first half. Not a great almost. But a far cry from nothing. It also completely ignores the fact that the QB isn’t the only reason the offense didn’t score more points in the first half. Other players on offense were making crucial mistakes too.
Dak, let's simplify this a bit. Forget defense for a second. Let's focus strictly on offense and what we can expect them to do given the opportunities they have against the defense they are facing.
You have on your bench a rookie QB and an experienced vet who holds records and is considered to be a top producer in the passing game, arguably at the top of his game.
You also have what had been considered the best o-line in the league and the best running game in the league.
Now given all that you must admit it is pretty hard to make a case that the experienced, record holding vet at the top of his game doesn't give the best chance to win. Especially against a defense whose secondary is ripe for the picking.
Isn't it?
I would love to know what JJ, JG etc think about that decision now with the benefit of three seasons of hindsight.
What they really think, not what they would blurt into a mic for public consumption.
My apologies. I made my earlier reply based upon:I’m not using Romo as the only variable nor am I even blaming him for the 2014 loss. Obviously each game is unique, but what was constant between the 2 games is the defense could not stop AR & the Packers for one drive at the end when they needed to.
Much is made about the catch/non-catch in the 2014 game, but all the defense had to do was stop the Packers after that and the offense gets the ball back with another opportunity.
BTW, that’s the same as the bobbled snap Seattle playoff game. The defense couldn’t stop Seattle after that play until it was too late.
My own argument has never been that Romo re-insertion into the lineup would equal a guaranteed playoff victory. There were a number of negative consequences involving not only the defense in either game to make that assertion.Had Tony played (and survived for the whole game), it would’ve simply been 2014 all over again.
Others were and are still upset at Murray. I am one of them.I can't get mad at Demarco for that one though. It was an unreal play by Peppers. I can understand why Demarco didn't think anyone was going to touch him & he was just focused on getting to full speed. Every time i watch it, I am more amazed at Peppers effort and length to get his hand on the ball.
I agree as a general rule. However, I’m a firm believer in momentum and teams simply getting on a roll. History is rife with that (2015 Panthers or 2016 Falcons). Frankly, momentum and being “in the zone” is as large a factor as experience.No. My discussion point has always been simple and is not only applicable to this single Dallas/Green Bay topic. My contention is a veteran (franchise) quarterback should always be used in place of a rookie quarterback in any playoff game IF the ultimate goal is winning a championship. The odds massively favor the veteran player over the rookie player.