Just Curious Your Take On Our Coach?

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BulletBob;1081388 said:
Your original question was broken into two parts.



I answered the second part (even highlighted the word "currently" so you'd understand the exact part to which I was referring). You retorted by addressing the first part (about past success).

I named 7 who are currently better. Consider their records and how their teams are currently playing ...

Lovie Smith
Tony Dungy
Andy Reid
Bill Belichick
Brian Billick
Marty Schottenheimer
Mike Holmgren

No i didnt. all those coaches i mentioned have they won the super bowl which is the main goal the last 4 years?
 

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TtownCowboy;1081186 said:
I'll start this by saying I'm a pretty glass half-full kinda guy. But, wake me when the Parcells era is over.

So my question is has Parcells ever, since being the head of the Cowboys, just plain out-coached another really good or decent ball team?

I don't think so. He's a motivator, sure. A profuse profanity user, of course. But when is the last time you watched a Parcells coached Cowboys team and said wow that guy is a freakin' genius w/playcalling and game planning?
:confused:

I quoted myself to repost the question so you can read it. Now reread the question and try and answer it. It's not that hard, is it?:confused:

What year did Bill Parcell win a Super Bowl w/the Dallas Cowboys? This is a trick question. Let's see if you get it?;)
 

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When Bill's guys he brought in or drafted stink up the field it is well...the players fault.

Explain to me how that makes sense please.


Hey I dont know.

All I know is Pat Watkins was in a position to make a play and he didn't. He was sitting all over it and didn't.

BTW not to many of BP's players hes brought in have stunk. The talent level is better than its been on this team in years.

BTW im not ready to give up on Pat Watkins or anything like that. He made some Rookie mistakes yesterday and it cost us. The encouraging thing was he was all over the guy he just didn't finish.

Dont give up on him yet.
 

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TtownCowboy;1081399 said:
I quoted myself to repost the question so you can read it. Now reread the question and try and answer it. It's not that hard, is it?:confused:

What year did Bill Parcell win a Super Bowl w/the Dallas Cowboys? This is a trick question. Let's see if you get it?;)


Have i ever said Parcells won a super bowl?

all i said was all those coahces you mentioned havent done jack **** except 1 or 2, which is win the super bowl in the same 4 year span parcells have been here.

i rest my case
 

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cowboys19;1081387 said:
i thought the goal is to win championships? am i right? if so there arent 5 coaches who have done this the last 4 years


Your argument is stale cowboys19. Sure what BP did with the Giants was great back in 1990 and 1986.

One could make the same argument you are making when Landry was the coach in 1988. Name five coaches who have accomplished more than Landry did when he was still coaching? You see it was not about what you have done in the past but what you getting accomplished now.

See what happened when Landry was let go for a guy with no record in the NFL by the name of Jimmy Johnson?

I am not even saying that I want BP gone, but he deserves as much credit/blame for wahtever this team accomplishes or fails to accomplish as any other coach. Right now BP is only two games over .500 (27-25) since he came to town. Time to step it up.
 

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CATCH17;1081400 said:
Hey I dont know.

All I know is Pat Watkins was in a position to make a play and he didn't. He was sitting all over it and didn't.

BTW not to many of BP's players hes brought in have stunk. The talent level is better than its been on this team in years.

BTW im not ready to give up on Pat Watkins or anything like that. He made some Rookie mistakes yesterday and it cost us. The encouraging thing was he was all over the guy he just didn't finish.

Dont give up on him yet.

Nobody is giving up on him. He will learn alot from that play/those plays....I posted somewhere earlier that we will be a better team down the road since that happened...it was just really bad timing..

As far as him bringing in better talent...true, i agree...but that makes the lack of success even more visible. He gets consistently outcoached. He should be doing more with that better talent, shouldn't he?
 

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cowboys19;1081402 said:
Have i ever said Parcells won a super bowl?

all i said was all those coahces you mentioned havent done jack **** except 1 or 2, which is win the super bowl in the same 4 year span parcells have been here.

i rest my case

One word.

WEAK
 

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tommyboy10;1081408 said:
One word.

WEAK

im right arent i? unless you can name me 5 coaches who have won a superbowl the last 4 years while Parcells was with Dallas?

can you?
lol
 

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CATCH17;1081400 said:
Hey I dont know.

All I know is Pat Watkins was in a position to make a play and he didn't. He was sitting all over it and didn't.

BTW not to many of BP's players hes brought in have stunk. The talent level is better than its been on this team in years.

BTW im not ready to give up on Pat Watkins or anything like that. He made some Rookie mistakes yesterday and it cost us. The encouraging thing was he was all over the guy he just didn't finish.

Dont give up on him yet.


I am in no way giving up on Pat Watkins. He is a rookie and I expected to see rookie mistakes at some point. Unfortunately, they came against the Eagles in a critical game.

However, you see my point. BP deserves as much credit/blame as Campo deserved credit/blame for his team.

You can not have it both ways.
 

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TtownCowboy;1081383 said:
What has he done for us lately. We can rehash the past all you want to but it won't change the present. Seriously, reread the post, think clearly then respond. At least those guys coach during a game and don't sit on the sideline and sulk and cuss somebody when things don't go there way. They actually change the game plan when they're getting beaten or roughed up. Now go back reread the post and try answer again.

Some of those coaches were fired, some of those coaches like Holmgren were being roasted in Seattle before last season and a lot of the same BS being said about Parcells was being said about them.
 

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cowboys19;1081398 said:
No i didnt. all those coaches i mentioned have they won the super bowl which is the main goal the last 4 years?

Dude, it was your question:

Name 5 coaches who are currently better than Parcells.

The 7 I mentioned are currently better than Parcells.

The first part of your question was "name 5 coaches who have had more success than Parcells."

I chose the second part of your question.

You continue to cling to the first.

Care to argue why the 7 I mentioned (Lovie Smith, Tony Dungy, Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Brian Billick, Marty Schottenheimer, and Mike Holmgren) are not CURRENTLY better than Parcells?

Let me give you a bit of help, because I like your spirit:

currently 
Pronunciation Key - [kur-uhnt-lee, kuhr-]

–adverb at the presenttime; now: She is currently working as a lab technician.
 

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He gets consistently outcoached. He should be doing more with that better talent, shouldn't he?

See this is where we stray off.

So if McBriar doesn't turn the ball over that costs us 7 points and we win the game then was Parcells outcoached?

If Roy Williams doesn't let his man run right by him then was Parcells outcoached?

Bledsoe Missing TO wide open at the end of the game for a TD? Outcoached?

Parcells wasn't outcoached yesterday. His team turned the ball over and we lost.

Had we not had turnovers I guarantee we win that game and then Parcells is no longer "outcoached".

I dont think any other team could've done what we did yesterday and still had a chance to win the game with 30 seconds left.
 

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cowboys19;1081411 said:
im right arent i? unless you can name me 5 coaches who have won a superbowl the last 4 years while Parcells was with Dallas?

can you?
lol

No moron...how can 5 different head coaches win Super Bowls in 4 years...

And for the record, it was about getting outcoached...Bill hasn't won one either, yet other coaches have taken less talent and done more with it. Prove me wrong. Prove us ALL wrong.
 

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cowboys19;1081402 said:
Have i ever said Parcells won a super bowl?

all i said was all those coahces you mentioned havent done jack **** except 1 or 2, which is win the super bowl in the same 4 year span parcells have been here.

i rest my case

So constantly winning ,being in or around the play-offs most every year your there, in other words staying consistent and always having a shot at the ring that is not doing jack **** to you? I gave you my reasons for all of those head coaches that I thought were better than Parcells right now, not 30 years ago. But you have never, never answered my question in the original post. Would you like to try now since we are clear, I assume?

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BulletBob;1081416 said:
Dude, it was your question:

Name 5 coaches who are currently better than Parcells.

The 7 I mentioned are currently better than Parcells.

The first part of your question was "name 5 coaches who have had more success than Parcells."

I chose the second part of your question.

You continue to cling to the first.

Care to argue why the 7 I mentioned (Lovie Smith, Tony Dungy, Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Brian Billick, Marty Schottenheimer, and Mike Holmgren) are not CURRENTLY better than Parcells?

Let me give you a bit of help, because I like your spirit:

currently 
Pronunciation Key - [kur-uhnt-lee, kuhr-]

adverb at the presenttime; now: She is currently working as a lab technician.



Did you watch the Bears v Panthers playoff game? People deride Parcells for not making adjustments, but this fool never thought to double Steve Smith until the game was allready over.
 

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That's a little bit of a screwed up question.Most guys haven't been a head coach in the league as long as Parcells.I don't think that he is a bad coach,but I do feel he is a little overrated.As a cowboy fan,I can only judge him by what he has done here,because what he did elsewhere doesn't matter.He has taken a bad team,and made them average.It's better than what it was,but that is not what he was brought in here for.I know all his supporters are expecting this team to take off and dominate,but this team is a borderline playoff team,that if it gets in is going nowhere.This team has a mediocre offensive line,and the wrong kind of QB playing behind it.That is Parcell's fault,because this line was the biggest problem when the season ended last year,and he did nothing about it.Everyone on that line is average at best.The last 2 yrs.,we have signed 2 old guys,Fabini and Riviera,who have long seen there best years behind them.There will be good days and bad days,and this team will end up around 9-7 again.
 

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otero1;1081287 said:
Most of those throws were under throws, over throws, or interceptions...

And on one owens arms seem to disappear.:lmao:
 

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CATCH17;1081417 said:
See this is where we stray off.

So if McBriar doesn't turn the ball over that costs us 7 points and we win the game then was Parcells outcoached?

If Roy Williams doesn't let his man run right by him then was Parcells outcoached?

Bledsoe Missing TO wide open at the end of the game for a TD? Outcoached?

Parcells wasn't outcoached yesterday. His team turned the ball over and we lost.

Had we not had turnovers I guarantee we win that game and then Parcells is no longer "outcoached".

Hmmm...good try...BUT!

Running empty sets and not getting any protection....turned into turnovers and 3 and outs....did the players call those? I might be mistaken, but someone calls those plays that they get to screw up, right?

I could go on, but I'll spare you.
 

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TtownCowboy;1081186 said:
I'll start this by saying I'm a pretty glass half-full kinda guy. But, wake me when the Parcells era is over.

So my question is has Parcells ever, since being the head of the Cowboys, just plain out-coached another really good or decent ball team?

I don't think so. He's a motivator, sure. A profuse profanity user, of course. But when is the last time you watched a Parcells coached Cowboys team and said wow that guy is a freakin' genius w/playcalling and game planning?
:confused:

I was at the Eagles game at Texas Stadium last year. We blew them away in the first half. It was almost surreal....unlike any other Cowboys/Parcells game I can remember.
 

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"Care to argue why the 7 I mentioned (Lovie Smith, Tony Dungy, Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Brian Billick, Marty Schottenheimer, and Mike Holmgren) are not CURRENTLY better than Parcells.
how"

and how many of then have won the superbowl the past 3 years? The same span that Parcells has been Head Coach for Dallas?

So all of those coaches are in the same boat as Parcells except for Belichick who actually has won a super bowl recently.

Dungy all his teams do is choke in the playoffs. All Andy reids team do is choke in the playoffs. Billick what has he done the last 4 years? NOTHING. Holmgrem one good yera last year and he didnt even win the super bowl so i dont know how you can say that was a sucess.
 
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