Just how much does this improve Washington?

[Maikeru-sama]

I wonder rather face the Skins with Jason Campbell at Quarterback then McNabb, so yes, I believe they improved their team at the Quarterback position.

It will be very interesting to see how the Eagles fans treat McNabb when the Skins go to the Linc.

 

[Woods]

The Eagles are young and talented at the skill positions and have the draft picks to continue to fill out that roster. With the 24th, 36th, and 56th picks (just for starters)...they could find some great contributors right away.

They are cleaning out the older guys in a sweeping fashion. They learned they didn't have enough to get over the top last year and saw it was not going to get better without some big changes. If I was an eagle fan, I'd be happy with what they're doing. It's better to clean it all out rather than bleed for 6-7 years before making the changes. They also traded Sheldon Borwn and got even more draft picks. They'll be young.

Like you said, they will be young. And I expect some growing pains with rookies. Thus, as I said, in the short-term expect teething problems. But in the longer term, they will profit from these moves.

 

[viman96]

I think he improves the Skins a great deal. If he and the WRs can get on the same page quickly then they will be able to score points. No Westbrook type player for dump off screens though does not help McNabb. But Shanny likes to run the ball a lot more then Reid. I think Cooley and Moss will like playing with McNabb. I do not think McNabb will care much with the OL though.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

Everything that McNabb had in Philly is horrible in Washington.

Offensive Line
Running backs from 2005 glory days
TE might, might be a push
WR? Come on man.

It makes Washington SLIGHTLY better. The probability of McNabb finishing the season behind that offensive line is one of two things, slim and none. He's not as fast as he was, and the other elements of Washington's team are bottom echelon to begin with.

6 wins. Kolb goes the route of Derek Anderson of winning early and getting destroyed by defenses late in the season. Both teams are disappointed at year's end.

 

[Dallyjake]

I dont see McNabb as a leader...I think the chemistry issue will pop up in Wash. THey already have some monster ego's and friction in that locker room(Portis,Hall,Albert). Dont see McNAbb stepping up and taking over the team. I have seen many posts on other boards where Skins fans want TO(are they crazy?).

 

[adbutcher]

Everything that McNabb had in Philly is horrible in Washington.

Offensive Line
Running backs from 2005 glory days
TE might, might be a push
WR? Come on man.

It makes Washington SLIGHTLY better. The probability of McNabb finishing the season behind that offensive line is one of two things, slim and none. He's not as fast as he was, and the other elements of Washington's team are bottom echelon to begin with.

6 wins. Kolb goes the route of Derek Anderson of winning early and getting destroyed by defenses late in the season. Both teams are disappointed at year's end.

My take as well. Both teams have very poor to mediocre offensive lines. I can't wait for fat Andy to throw Kolb to wolves with a 70/30 pass/run ratio, without any escapability, the boys and the gents should be licking their chops.

 

[LatinMind]

IMO this makes Commanders a threat. they have the making of a very good offense. they'll be taking okung to shore up his blindside

 

[dallasfaniac]

I think any gains from bringing in McNabb are mitigated by compensation given and whole team acclimation to philosophy change. It will take time for McNabb to establish a rapport with his WRs, so his presense won't have a large affect until his second year. In the process they will have missed out on two draftees that could have had a positive impact on the club for the long term. They would have been better off sticking with Campbell, trading down a bit and stockpiling quality players from the 2nd/3rd/4th rounds.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

IMO this makes Commanders a threat. they have the making of a very good offense. they'll be taking okung to shore up his blindside

Makings of a very good offense? In what way? Between McNabb getting sacked repeatedly or giving worms concussions that wiggled out at the feet of his receivers, they could be potentially worse than they were last year.


Good one.

 

[Vtwin]

Shanahan extended Elway's career and got him a ring.

If he can do the same thing for the Skins' running game as he did for the Broncos' then Mcnabb makes the skins a potential playoff contender.

That's a big if though and this move doesn't put any fear in me as a Cowboy fan.

 

[adbutcher]

Shanahan extended Elway's career and got him a ring.

If he can do the same thing for the Skins' running game as he did for the Broncos' then Mcnabb makes the skins a potential playoff contender.

That's a big if though and this move doesn't put any fear in me as a Cowboy fan.

McNabb is a good QB but he ain't no Elway and it is not even close.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Shanahan extended Elway's career and got him a ring.

If he can do the same thing for the Skins' running game as he did for the Broncos' then Mcnabb makes the skins a potential playoff contender.

That's a big if though and this move doesn't put any fear in me as a Cowboy fan.

Yeah, but they also had a guy named Terrel Davis.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

Shanahan extended Elway's career and got him a ring.

If he can do the same thing for the Skins' running game as he did for the Broncos' then Mcnabb makes the skins a potential playoff contender.

That's a big if though and this move doesn't put any fear in me as a Cowboy fan.

He's got to retool the entire offensive line. Shanahan's blocking scheme worked out good for his time in Denver, but we're looking 2-3 seasons down the road before "playoff contender" and "Washington Commanders" are listed in the same sentence that doesn't include "It's week 10 and already the (blank) have given up hope to be a (blank) this season.

Shanahan got a polished vet in Elway who had some exceptional talent around him at the very right time.

In the ten years post Elway, he's done very little with that team to the point of getting fired after blowing a 4 game lead in the division with 4 games to go. He ruined the defense and fired coordinators every time something went wrong with the team. Put the blame elsewhere will instill hope in your GM and owner because you got them rings a decade ago. Eventually, they saw through the charade and who was really the problem was given his walking papers.

 

[Vtwin]

McNabb is a good QB but he ain't no Elway and it is not even close.

You're right.

They are the same type of QB though and it is no coincidence that it was old man Elway who got the ring and not young, run and gun Elway.

The thought of Mcnabb not having to carry the load like he has since day one with the Eagles makes me curious to see how he might do.

I would say that Mcnabb still has more mobility at this stage of his career then Elway did when he got his ring.

 

[DFWJC]

McNabb is a good QB but he ain't no Elway and it is not even close.

Agreed. McNabb is no Elway...plus Elway and the Broncos learned very heavily on Terrell Davis to get thier titles. Davis was the SB MVP is the 1st SB win (157 yards , 3TDs) and ran over over 2000 yards the year of the second one. No Davis, no SBs for Elway. It was what was always missing to get Elway over the top. Furthermore, add Davis to Miami, and Marino gets his rings.

 

[Vtwin]

Yeah, but they also had a guy named Terrel Davis.

Well that's why it is such a big IF.

 

[adbutcher]

You're right.

They are the same type of QB though and it is no coincidence that it was old man Elway who got the ring and not young, run and gun Elway.

The thought of Mcnabb not having to carry the load like he has since day one with the Eagles makes me curious to see how he might do.

I would say that Mcnabb still has more mobility at this stage of his career then Elway did when he got his ring.

Even in Elway's later stages of his career he had great accuracy. Mcnabb has struggled with accuracy even in his prime. I don't see many similarities besides mobility.

In order for McChunky to have success in Washington, he will need a great offensive line and good running game and imo will take a couple of years to put in place. I love this move because it did not change the upper echelon of the division with the boys number one and the gents closely behind.

 

[jazzcat22]

It makes them better, only from the QB position. But it does not make them favorites to win the Division, or even to challenge for a playoff spot. But with Shanahan their, this could get them to a .500 team. Depending on how much their defense stays in tact.

 

[Vtwin]

Even in Elway's later stages of his career he had great accuracy. Mcnabb has struggled with accuracy even in his prime. I don't see many similarities besides mobility.

In order for McChunky to have success in Washington, he will need a great offensive line and good running game and imo will take a couple of years to put in place. I love this move because it did not change the upper echelon of the division with the boys number one and the gents closely behind.

I agree.

Plus we still to get two chances a season to extract our pound of flesh McUpchuck.

I'm still curious to see how he does with a run oriented coach though.

 

[AsthmaField]

It will help the offense some, only because it has been Campbell that was holding back the Skins. McNabb is better than Campbell in any universe.

Still, Shanny is known for improving the offense and not doing much with the defense and here we are hearing that he tried to get the QB by trading the star DT.

Bottom line is: If Gibbs couldn't help the Danny led Skins, then I doubt Shanny will do much either.