Just how much does this improve Washington?

Vinnie2u

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Isn't the west coast offense based on timing and accuracy? Mcflabb's best ball is the long ball.. I don't see a happy marriage.. Man the skins are really adding some ego's.. LJ, Portis, Moss, Mcflabb, Fat Albert....
 

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Vinnie2u;3333918 said:
Isn't the west coast offense based on timing and accuracy? Mcflabb's best ball is the long ball.. I don't see a happy marriage.. Man the skins are really adding some ego's.. LJ, Portis, Moss, Mcflabb, Fat Albert....
You don't think McNabb has been running a version of the West Coast offense his entire career?
 

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I am not saying this will happen - but....

The last time this coach had an older QB... Elway

The Broncos had some of their best years. McNabb is a bit like Elway in regards to age and ability at the same point in their careers.

You never know.....

I also think the Skins hur themselves with the team - split it a bit.
And if a CAP comes back next year a few players are taking up a whol lot of dollars again......

And the last time Philly traded a QB to Philly it was future HOF QB Sonny Jurgensen.

Just some thoughts.....
 

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DFWJC;3333928 said:
You don't think McNabb has been running a version of the West Coast offense his entire career?

A version yes.. But how many balls does he bounce or go over the head of the receivers.. Macklin and Jackson are deep threats..
 

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Longboysfan;3333939 said:
I am not saying this will happen - but....

The last time this coach had an older QB... Elway

The Broncos had some of their best years. McNabb is a bit like Elway in regards to age and ability at the same point in their careers.

You never know.....
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Elway >>>> McNabb, and there is no Terrel Davis on the Skins right now. I'm not that worried about it, especially with the shambles of an OL the Skins have.
 

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adbutcher;3333847 said:
McNabb is a good QB but he ain't no Elway and it is not even close.

he doesn't have to be Elway to make them playoff contenders. They're definitely a better team for having McNabb, for at least a season or two.
 

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Vinnie2u;3333941 said:
A version yes.. But how many balls does he bounce or go over the head of the receivers.. Macklin and Jackson are deep threats..

McNabb has dinked and dunked his entire career.

Throwing the deep ball doesn't mean a whole lot. There is kids in highschool who could complete deep balls in the NFL.

If McNabb played in an offense like Dallas im sure his completion % would be way down.
 

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Washington still has the 4th best QB in the NFCE.

Manning has a ring, Andy Reid, who should know, obviously feels that Kolb is better and Romo is head and shoulders over him.

What should scare Washington is that Philadelphia was willing to make this trade. The fact that they aren't scared of playing McNabb twice a year really makes me think that they know something.
 

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McNabb looked very bad at the end of the season loss to us. I think the Eagles knew he was over, and why not get something for him while also hurting your divison rival. If McNabb had something left in the tank, the Eagles would not have traded him in the division, to play the guy twice in a season. I think the Skins are just where they were with Campbell.
 

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hawklegion;3333997 said:
McNabb looked very bad at the end of the season loss to us. I think the Eagles knew he was over, and why not get something for him while also hurting your divison rival. If McNabb had something left in the tank, the Eagles would not have traded him in the division, to play the guy twice in a season. I think the Skins are just where they were with Campbell.

Funny had Dallas played like that people would be saying the play calling sucked. Well I do think that was the case for Philly their play calling sucked. Dallas knew exactly what Reid was going to do
 

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Philly had to make a decision with both McNabb and Kolb in the final year of their contracts so I don't know that there was this sense that McNabb was washed up and the Eagles knew it. They just felt they needed to move on to Kolb and with a 2nd in this deep draft and a 3rd/4th next year, move on they can.

Washington got better at QB, but not necessarily better as a whole on offense. I just don't think McNabb will cure what ailes the Commanders. He isn't the most accurate QB and his supporting cast isn't to the same level he had in Philly. This will only add to the struggles of developing a cohesive offensive unit.
 

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I TOTALLY agree with the "if he was so good Philly NEVER would've traded him to the foreskins" crowd. No brainer here gents...IF he could still play, they would have NEVER traded him to Philly: PERIOD. End of story..he'll flounder big time in DC. This might be his last year in football. With that oline? He'll get brutalized as bad or worse than Campbell did. Colossal FAIL on lil' dan and the rat's part IMO. (I'll also never forget McFlabb coming out for the playoff game playing air guitar and acting like a clown: I knew at that moment he'd never play another down for them)
 

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burmafrd;3333651 said:
Their O line sucks; McFlabb is not as agile and fast as he was. By the time they improve their O line McFlabb is done.


agree. they hav 5 big holes in their OL and probably why they wanted a mobile QB. plus Campbell is the wrong fit for a WCO. I bet you he will get traded for a 4th or 5th round pick to Raiders (who will take anybody), or Buffalo, or St Louis to be their backup.
 

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AsthmaField;3333907 said:
It will help the offense some, only because it has been Campbell that was holding back the Skins. McNabb is better than Campbell in any universe.

Still, Shanny is known for improving the offense and not doing much with the defense and here we are hearing that he tried to get the QB by trading the star DT.

Bottom line is: If Gibbs couldn't help the Danny led Skins, then I doubt Shanny will do much either.

Lets be honest here (and its really Commanders fans that need to be honest) Gibbs, while a great leader who literally willed that team to the playoffs twice, was out of the game for a generation and had clearly let the game pass him by.

And he kept Vinny Cerrato and would have given Larry Johnson a 5 year guranteed deal :)

Compare that to Shanahan, who has only been out of the NFL for a year, and brought in his up and coming OC son to be OC in DC, and the circumstances are quite different.

While veterans have been signed, they have been smart stop gap moves with incentive laden deals that can allow the Commanders to easily cut non performers.

10 veterans released on the night before FA.

Along with that, the Shanahans have an actual sense of the modern NFL, seeing they have both coached in it, and didn't neccessarily "bring the band back together" like Gibbs 2.0 attempted.

Are there some similarities? Yea you bet, another savior in Washington. Are there quite a few differences? Oh yes
 

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burmafrd;3333651 said:
Their O line sucks; McFlabb is not as agile and fast as he was. By the time they improve their O line McFlabb is done.

Dallas-11-5 to 13 and 3

Commanders- 8-8 t0 10-6

Eagles- 7-9 to 9-7

Giants-6-10 to 8-8

Cowboys Easily win this division but Commanders are 2nd.

oops wrong thread..
 

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SkinsHokieFan;3334032 said:
Lets be honest here (and its really Commanders fans that need to be honest) Gibbs, while a great leader who literally willed that team to the playoffs twice, was out of the game for a generation and had clearly let the game pass him by.

And he kept Vinny Cerrato and would have given Larry Johnson a 5 year guranteed deal :)

Compare that to Shanahan, who has only been out of the NFL for a year, and brought in his up and coming OC son to be OC in DC, and the circumstances are quite different.

While veterans have been signed, they have been smart stop gap moves with incentive laden deals that can allow the Commanders to easily cut non performers.

10 veterans released on the night before FA.

Along with that, the Shanahans have an actual sense of the modern NFL, seeing they have both coached in it, and didn't neccessarily "bring the band back together" like Gibbs 2.0 attempted.

Are there some similarities? Yea you bet, another savior in Washington. Are there quite a few differences? Oh yes

How does it feels to have to root for Donovan?
 

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Doomsday101;3334001 said:
Funny had Dallas played like that people would be saying the play calling sucked. Well I do think that was the case for Philly their play calling sucked. Dallas knew exactly what Reid was going to do

Reid didn't overthrow a wide open Desean Jackson for what would have been a huge momentum swinging 70 yard TD in the first game. Or go a combined 39-73 passing. Or blame his young WRs after the first loss when he clearly played terrible.

As other have said I think Philly knows exactly what they sent to Washington, and they are not particularly worried.
 

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wileedog;3334044 said:
Reid didn't overthrow a wide open Desean Jackson for what would have been a huge momentum swinging 70 yard TD in the first game. Or go a combined 39-73 passing. Or blame his young WRs after the first loss.

As other have said I think Philly knows exactly what they sent to Washington, and they are not particularly worried.

No but they continue to try and attack deep as they did for most of the season and Dallas was not about to be beat by the deep ball. You are talking 1 pass that McNabb over threw I'm talking about and 2 entire game plans. Our coaches would have have caught hell and yet Reid gets a pass? Please give me a break, Reid was out coached and Dallas knew exactly what was coming and not only kicked Philly butt once but back to back.
 

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Doomsday101;3334047 said:
No but they continue to try and attack deep as they did for most of the season and Dallas was not about to be beat by the deep ball. You are talking 1 pass that McNabb over threw I'm talking about and 2 entire game plans. Our coaches would have have caught hell and yet Reid gets a pass? Please give me a break, Reid was out coached and Dallas knew exactly what was coming and not only kicked Philly butt once but back to back.

I didn't say Reid did a good job. But that doesn't excuse McNabb playing terrible. He was missing guys all over the field and clearly couldn't handle the pressure of knowing it was probably a make or break game for him to stay in Philly.

No one's giving Reid "a pass", although I'm certainly not going to spend a lot of time complaining about another team's coach, but trying to excuse McNabb's awful play with the game plan is not entirely accurate IMO.
 

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Their o-line? Do u know who their HC is? The guy pastes o-lines and running games together. Now he has a QB who he can threaten? Not sure why they went to a 3-4 because they had a very good defense but ok.

They are a legitimate issue in this division again. They have an extremely high pick too to get whatever impact player they need immediately. Thank God they went for every other rb other than LT and Westbrook. Then again Portis is a serious pain in the asss on the ground and out of the backfield catching balls.
 
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