Just SAY it! BP ain't the man!

[silver]

You still don't get it do you. We were 13-10 in Carter's last 23 games and Carter is 15-11 in his last 26 starts and we're 14-16 without him with a more talented team. Carter has outplayed Steve McNair,Kerry Collins,Jeff Garcia,Drew Bledsoe,Vinny Testeverde in his short career. It wasn't just Parcells in 2003, it was the combination of Carter and Parcells together that made the thing work. Why do you think he came to Dallas in the first place and elevated Carter to the starters job when he could have signed other qb's. He'd been watching Carter from the broadcast booth for two years and knew he could play. Think about it, he was a genius when he had Carter and now his teams underachieve without him. It's not very hard to figure out. We have much more talent now, yet struggle more. Carter made our OL seem much better than it was because of his mobility and NFL defenses knew that his big arm gave us a threat to score every time. Why do you think that NfL defenses went after Carter in the second half of the season;they didn't fear Hambrick and didn't respect our receivers;the Carolina Def. coord. said as much after we beat them.

you keep referreing to quincy carter in the present tense. quit living in the past. carter no longer plays here or anywhere for that matter

 

[kartr]

Let's not get carried away and go on a Parcells-witchhunt. Yes, I do think Parcells deserves the blame, but mostly for relying on sub-par coaches like Payton and the OL coach (Spurano?) who never coached the OL before outside of hgigh-school. Even payton has a Jeckle-and-hyde play-calling style. Anyone here remeber how he lost his job coordinating the Giants several years back for calling games similar to ours?

Yes, It's time to upgrade the coaching staff, but let's not include Parcells in that. There are alot of areas Parcells has already upgraded so let's give him more time to continue. Even early in the year he was quoted as saying "we've got a lot of problems here". So it's not like he wasn't aware of this team's shortcomings. It's just that injuries and undeveloped talent have kept him from being able to hide those problems asny more. Let's give him time to fix those first.

**

We had most of the same coaches two years ago and won. We have injuries every year, remember Ryan Young's injury forcing us to play Torrin Tucker at RT, remember Al Johnson's injury at the start of the season. People are looking in all of the wrong places and making excuses for the lack of leadership at the most important place on our roster. Buffalo is struggling, but they still don't want Bledsoe back.

 

[DipChit]

Think about it, who's got better stats, Eli Manning or Drew Bledsoe, yet the Giants are better than us cause Bledsoe is an 8-8 qb who doesn't win games.

No, the Giants are better than us because every one of thier offensive skill players are better than ours (give or take Eli's inexperience) and they have 2 guys that can flat get to the QB.

Swap out Bledsoe for Eli's big bro.. or any other QB you might want (QC if you prefer).. and the Giants would still be a better team than we are right now.

 

[kartr]

No, the Giants are better than us because every one of thier offensive skill players are better than ours (give or take Eli's inexperience) and they have 2 guys that can flat get to the QB.

Swap out Bledsoe for Eli's big bro.. or any other QB you might want (QC if you prefer).. and the Giants would still be a better team than we are right now.

QC plays better against teams with tough defenses than does Bledsoe. He was sacked 5 times in the first half by the Browns last year and still won;he was knocked out the Cardinals game in the first half and still won;he played well against the Ravens last year and he won against the Bills who had the number 3 defence in 2003;he had 210 yards passing and completed 57% of his passes compared to Brady's 212 yards and 47% completion percentage and Galloway didn't play and Witten was a rookie and he brought us back from behind against Carolina's defense twice and against the Eagles in 2003. He also was 2-1 against the Giants against with Kerry Collins,not Eli Manning. He's already proven that he plays tougher against good opposition than Bledsoe. Bledsoe struggled this year against the Raiders,9'ers and Lions who all will be drafting in the top ten.

 

[silver]

QC plays.

no he doesn't. well maybe with himself while high on dope.

 

[MikeD17]

Anyone Who Doesnt Think Parcells Is The Man For The Job Is A Dope!

 

[kartr]

you keep referreing to quincy carter in the present tense. quit living in the past. carter no longer plays here or anywhere for that matter

I don't live in the past, I live in reality. The fact that Staubach doesn't play now doesn't mean he wasn't better than Bledsoe,but Carter is still young enough to play today. Today is the present, not the past. The fact is in the recent past, Carter has helped two teams get to the playoffs and Bledsoe hasn't help a team get to the playoffs in 8 years and that's the Bledsoe we have now. Looking at 'todays Bledsoe' as if he was still the Bledsoe of 8 years ago is living in the past. Carter can be signed now by any team smart of enough to do it. Just cause you're down today, doesn't mean you can't come back from a setback,unless you're a 13 year underachiever like Bledsoe.

 

[DandyDon]

Have you guys forgotten how awful the Cowboys have been over the past several years?

Parcells is retooling a team just a year removed from 6-10. At least we are in the playoff hunt with a defense full of young players with three years or less experience.

You want short-term fixes? Look to free agency like the Commanders did a few years ago.

You want a long-term powerhouse? Follow Parcells' plan.

This team isn't/wasn't going to advance to the Super Bowl and wasn't going to win it if it got there.

Yeah, we got blown out. So what. We blew out the Eagles.

Life goes on.

 

[DandyDon]

The only thing we really need to go over is Bill Parcell's decline

Giants 2 SB wins
Pats 1 SB loss
Jets AFC loss
Boys year 1 -- 10-6 one and done in playoffs(didnt even show up, like last sunday)
Boys year 2 -- no playoffs
Boys year 1 -- ?

The above are all facts.

This is an entirely different era.....can't compare the two eras.....well, I guess YOU can if YOU want to.

 

[DipChit]

QC plays better against teams with tough defenses than does Bledsoe. He was sacked 5 times in the first half by the Browns last year and still won;he was knocked out the Cardinals game in the first half and still won;he played well against the Ravens last year and he won against the Bills who had the number 3 defence in 2003;he had 210 yards passing and completed 57% of his passes compared to Brady's 212 yards and 47% completion percentage and Galloway didn't play and Witten was a rookie and he brought us back from behind against Carolina's defense twice and against the Eagles in 2003. He also was 2-1 against the Giants against with Kerry Collins,not Eli Manning. He's already proven that he plays tougher against good opposition than Bledsoe. Bledsoe struggled this year against the Raiders,9'ers and Lions who all will be drafting in the top ten.

What does that have to do with anything. I mentioned why the Giants are better than we are right now no matter who our QB might be at the moment.

By the way.. you really *are* QC arent you?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Quincy Carter who?

 

[DandyDon]

Lets break this down. BP took a team over that was horrible and lead them to a 10-6 season and a playoff game. The following year He buys the groceries, wiley, drafts peterman and several other unmentionables and said he felt good about the team, He raves about the team he was building and they end up being terrible and he cuts all of the DT's he loved. He then says he was wrong about those players and promises a change. He has a very strong draft to build up the 3-4 defense, can't take away that from him

Let's take a look at our players, Al johnson= horrible, gourode=horrible, Rivera=horrible. decides we don't need to fix our fs problem and decides to not get veteran help at RT or LT. Keyshawn= plays hard( lost a step) witten =(not used effectively the real deal,(glenn =only threat down field= double coverage)

Zimmer, Payton, Dehaven, soprano they SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BP's refusal to open up the offense and remain a running team that can't run.
BP= prehistoric, 80's style giant football, refuses to change with the times!
Good GM one day, hopefully not here! hopefully in detroit or with the texans

Please take this man to task, he continually says you are what your record says and his record says he is not the man. Honestly he has not got the job done! bring in an innovative head coach not afraid to leave the 80's behind and is willing to kill teams that he dominates and puts his team in the position to win the tough ones!

 

[Clove]

This is what I see IMO.

I think BP is old school, and it's a clash in todays NFL. He played JJ, when he was hurt and it cost JJ most of last year. He played Rogers hurt and you all know what happened there. He's playing Henry hurt right now, and we are getting blasted in our secondary.

His patience with young QB's is killing us. Where would we be with Romo or Henson right today, had he played them last year when we were out of contention? We may be on our way with our future QB or not. Bledsoe is worn down, and his spots have not changed. Everything people said about him holding on to the ball, and getting rattled by pressure has come to present.

BP is trying to beat people with old receivers and had he just asked the Raiders does that work, they would have told him they tried that a few years back, and failed. Glover and Ellis are great guys, and they should make for great trade bait this off season for more great draft picks. Ferguson is a bust.

I don't care if TO plays with a straight jacket on, we are in no position to worry about character, we need TALENT. I would remove everyone on that OLINE except Flo, and LA would have to battle a new guy to win his position back. BP in my eyes, has one more year, and if all of those things don't change, GET OUT!

 

[silver]

I don't live in the past, I live in reality. The fact that Staubach doesn't play now doesn't mean he wasn't better than Bledsoe,but Carter is still young enough to play today. Today is the present, not the past. The fact is in the recent past, Carter has helped two teams get to the playoffs and Bledsoe hasn't help a team get to the playoffs in 8 years and that's the Bledsoe we have now. Looking at 'todays Bledsoe' as if he was still the Bledsoe of 8 years ago is living in the past. Carter can be signed now by any team smart of enough to do it. Just cause you're down today, doesn't mean you can't come back from a setback,unless you're a 13 year underachiever like Bledsoe.

reality says quincy is unemployed by any profesional team. arena, cfl, arena 2 etc. nobody wants him. and the reality is that he has a drug problem. he is addicted to ilegal drugs. drugs and playing profesional football don't mix, especially if your position is the most important in the team. reality is that when the jets got to the playoffs quincy disapeared. AWOL. that's reality.

 

[Juke99]

BP is just another guy in a public arena who has overstayed his usefulness...

As stated above, "You are what your record says you are"...he's 24-23...hardly the stuff that $5 mil is made of.

He no longer enjoys what he does....and if he DOES enjoy it, he sure has an odd way of showing it.

He has the entire team playing to not make mistakes...that's the mantra....that's the objective....yet he has one of the most mistake prone QB's in the history of the game as his starting QB's this season and last.

He wants to run a ball control, conervative offense....but his line STINKS.

He wants to keep games close and then win in the 4th quarter but his FG kicker stinks.

"NO matter what you have done in the past, sooner or later you have to prove you can still get the job done." Those were the words he spoke about Darren Woodson. Who's speaking this words to Parcells?

And as an fyi, I've been off the bandwagon for two years...AND I loved the guy being signed in the first place...it's just become apparent to me that he can no longer do the job.

Blah blah blah...remember how bad we were before? Remember Campo? What has that go to do with the job Parcells is doing?

Me at work, "Hey boss, my sales numbers for the past three years are average...but my compensation is the highest in the business....but hey, remember how bad the last sales manager was?"

I am amazed that some people extend Parcells benefits of the doubt that NONE of us would receive at our jobs....

 

[diehard2294]

BP is just another guy in a public arena who has overstayed his usefulness...

As stated above, "You are what your record says you are"...he's 24-23...hardly the stuff that $5 mil is made of.

He no longer enjoys what he does....and if he DOES enjoy it, he sure has an odd way of showing it.

He has the entire team playing to not make mistakes...that's the mantra....that's the objective....yet he has one of the most mistake prone QB's in the history of the game as his starting QB's this season and last.

He wants to run a ball control, conervative offense....but his line STINKS.

He wants to keep games close and then win in the 4th quarter but his FG kicker stinks.

"NO matter what you have done in the past, sooner or later you have to prove you can still get the job done." Those were the words he spoke about Darren Woodson. Who's speaking this words to Parcells?

And as an fyi, I've been off the bandwagon for two years...AND I loved the guy being signed in the first place...it's just become apparent to me that he can no longer do the job.

Blah blah blah...remember how bad we were before? Remember Campo? What has that go to do with the job Parcells is doing?

Me at work, "Hey boss, my sales numbers for the past three years are average...but my compensation is the highest in the business....but hey, remember how bad the last sales manager was?"

I am amazed that some people extend Parcells benefits of the doubt that NONE of us would receive at our jobs....

well said Juke,never at a loss for words about mighty BP

 

[silver]

I am amazed that some people extend Parcells benefits of the doubt that NONE of us would receive at our jobs....

hope never dies. deep down most of us still hope he can turn it around. you make a valid point. but i still give the man the benefit of the doubt. at this time next year if things remain constant, i will be off the bandwagon too. just not yet. not with everything still on the plate.