Just speculating... Is Garrett on Boy Snyder's radar for coach next year?

Garrett's stock was sky high a few years ago.

He's totally crashed and burned and I don't even see any other team wanting him as OC much less as HC.

Only Jerry is dumb enough to write that big check.:rolleyes:
 
Commanders hire a "name" coach next year.

It's the only way that Snyder can sell tickets and not have a complete fan revolt.
 
ArmyCowboy;3025751 said:
Commanders hire a "name" coach next year.

It's the only way that Snyder can sell tickets and not have a complete fan revolt.

Half the fans have already revolted it appears. What was the attendance Sunday? Nevermind. the reported attendance probably won't tell the story. I heard a good bit of the stadium was empty.
 
Cover 2;3025706 said:
Yards per game mean nothing. Points per game is all that matters, and Garrett hasn't been impressive so far this season. His offense also has turned the ball over too much. Will that trend continue? Who knows, but so far Garrett has not done a great job by any stretch of the imagination.

Again, I'm stupid. I haven't seen Garrett throw one pick or fumble even once. Garrett may call a bad play every now and then (like any other OC in this league), but I seriously doubt he calls for turnovers. He may be a complete moron in your eyes, but I would wager that he frowns on turnovers.

Please let me know which fumble was Garretts fault or which picks was his responsibility. I'll accept the occasional bonehead playcall, but not the turnovers.

By the way, the Cowboys are 8th in points per game at 24.4 points. It could be better, but that's not terrible either.
 
RXP;3025831 said:
Again, I'm stupid. I haven't seen Garrett throw one pick or fumble even once. Garrett may call a bad play every now and then (like any other OC in this league), but I seriously doubt he calls for turnovers. He may be a complete moron in your eyes, but I would wager that he frowns on turnovers.

Please let me know which fumble was Garretts fault or which picks was his responsibility. I'll accept the occasional bonehead playcall, but not the turnovers.

By the way, the Cowboys are 8th in points per game at 24.4 points. It could be better, but that's not terrible either.
I just said he's underachieving this season. And yes, the turnovers are his fault when he has a quarterback that's struggling and a strong running game, but still chooses to air it out. And the Cowboys last 7 trips to the red zone have ended in 2 touchdowns. That is a problem.
 
RXP;3025831 said:
Again, I'm stupid. I haven't seen Garrett throw one pick or fumble even once. Garrett may call a bad play every now and then (like any other OC in this league), but I seriously doubt he calls for turnovers. He may be a complete moron in your eyes, but I would wager that he frowns on turnovers.

Please let me know which fumble was Garretts fault or which picks was his responsibility.

:laugh2:

I love posts like this.

Hey guys, those 5-11 seasons weren't Campo's fault, because heck, I never saw him miss one tackle, throw one interception or fumble one ball. In fact, I'm sure he even frowned on those things.
 
Snyder probably wouldn't go the same route again with a inexperienced guy who's never been in charge.
 
Bach;3026070 said:
:laugh2:

I love posts like this.

Hey guys, those 5-11 seasons weren't Campo's fault, because heck, I never saw him miss one tackle, throw one interception or fumble one ball. In fact, I'm sure he even frowned on those things.

Maybe you can give me an explanation. The poster said "His offense also has turned the ball over too much."

How does that work? Gurode and Romo fumble the snap and the Chiefs recover. Garretts fault say you. How? Please explain.

Austin runs the wrong pattern and Romo throws a pick to Bailey. Garretts fault you say. How? Please explain.
 
Let's not compare Snyder to George Steinbrenner. One hasn't won jack squat, the other has seen his organization win multiple world championships.




YAKUZA
 
RXP;3026232 said:
Maybe you can give me an explanation. The poster said "His offense also has turned the ball over too much."

How does that work? Gurode and Romo fumble the snap and the Chiefs recover. Garretts fault say you. How? Please explain.

Austin runs the wrong pattern and Romo throws a pick to Bailey. Garretts fault you say. How? Please explain.

He apparently doesn't teach discipline or very detailed oriented. There's going to be the occasional mishap now and then, but to repeatedly see the same mistakes over and over and over - that goes back to coaching.
 
Bach;3026368 said:
He apparently doesn't teach discipline or very detailed oriented. There's going to be the occasional mishap now and then, but to repeatedly see the same mistakes over and over and over - that goes back to coaching.
Disagree in part. There are times when bad plays simply happen despite coaching. For example, Tom Landry was an outstanding coach. I doubt very seriously that he failed to inform Roger Staubach, Don Meredith or Danny White about the dangers of Interceptions. They all still threw them.

Jimmy was a very detail oriented coach yet Erik Williams, similar to Flo, got a lot of penalties. Erik's were usually about roughness rather than false starts.

It's presumptuous of all of us to think how much time is given to small details. We don't know. The idea that not enough is given just is our own speculation based on how upset we are.

Best example I can give you goes back to the Landry days again. Phil Pozderac. I think he just had another False Start. By your definition Landry did not prepare or teach him enough. I reject that. I have too much faith in Tom Landry. Landry was his only Head Coach and he ran the Offense. He was his own OC up until the last couple of years. Landry was the epitome of a detail oriented, hands on coach.

Some mistakes go beyond coaching. The human element of the game is one of the great things about it. JMO.
 
Hostile;3026408 said:
Disagree in part. There are times when bad plays simply happen despite coaching. For example, Tom Landry was an outstanding coach. I doubt very seriously that he failed to inform Roger Staubach, Don Meredith or Danny White about the dangers of Interceptions. They all still threw them.

Jimmy was a very detail oriented coach yet Erik Williams, similar to Flo, got a lot of penalties. Erik's were usually about roughness rather than false starts.

It's presumptuous of all of us to think how much time is given to small details. We don't know. The idea that not enough is given just is our own speculation based on how upset we are.

Best example I can give you goes back to the Landry days again. Phil Pozderac. I think he just had another False Start. By your definition Landry did not prepare or teach him enough. I reject that. I have too much faith in Tom Landry. Landry was his only Head Coach and he ran the Offense. He was his own OC up until the last couple of years. Landry was the epitome of a detail oriented, hands on coach.

Some mistakes go beyond coaching. The human element of the game is one of the great things about it. JMO.
When you win in the playoffs as often as Landry, make the playoffs almost every year for 20 years, and win 2 Super Bowls, you get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to mistakes by your team.

When your team goes elfoldo every December the way that Wade Phillips' teams have done, you just don't get the same benefit.
 
If I were Snyder, I'd ditch Zorn and Cerrato and offer Bill Cowher the keys to the stadium and about $10M a year, if it took it.

He may not be financially in a position to do that. Paying off the current coaching staff, empty stadium seats, the massive contracts he's paid out in recent years, etc. Snyder may not be financially in a position to give a coach a guaranteed $60M contract or whateve.r
 
Hostile;3026408 said:
Disagree in part. There are times when bad plays simply happen despite coaching. For example, Tom Landry was an outstanding coach. I doubt very seriously that he failed to inform Roger Staubach, Don Meredith or Danny White about the dangers of Interceptions. They all still threw them.

Some mistakes go beyond coaching. The human element of the game is one of the great things about it. JMO.

I guess you missed the part where I said the "occasional mishap" will happen. No player has ever been mistake-free and no one is expecitng that.

If you make the same mistakes over and over - then it either falls on coaching or personnel. I wonder who's in charge of personnel? oh yeah, one of the worst GM's in the league.
 
Bach;3026445 said:
I guess you missed the part where I said the "occasional mishap" will happen. No player has ever been mistake-free and no one is expecitng that.

If you make the same mistakes over and over - then it either falls on coaching or personnel. I wonder who's in charge of personnel? oh yeah, one of the worst GM's in the league.

When we move on to Jerry Jones, we start agreeing. This team has had problems for years and Jerry has been the sole constant through all of that. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm starting to think this team will go nowhere until Jerry either dies or hands the reigns to Stephen.

As for Wade, he should have been canned on the plane back from Philly last year.

And coaches are responsible when players make the same mistake over and over again. It shows a lack of accountability. Garrett is included.

But that's different than saying Garretts offense is responsible for turnovers. When executed properly, it runs as good as any offense. The stats show this. They move the ball as well or better than everybody, except for NO. They just need to be better in the red zone.
 
RXP;3025831 said:
Again, I'm stupid. I haven't seen Garrett throw one pick or fumble even once. Garrett may call a bad play every now and then (like any other OC in this league), but I seriously doubt he calls for turnovers. He may be a complete moron in your eyes, but I would wager that he frowns on turnovers..

And the players have bad plays as well on offense. No, Garrett doesn't call for turnovers, lol. He is still in charge of them, and the mindset of the offense is not always together. He also is horrible in adjusting when "in game" mode. At half time , the adjustments are far and between. Defense isn't that much better though.

Hell, after this season THEY ALL NEED TO GO. Maybe Dallas can make Snyder the deal of a lifetime and he will take all out of Dallas.
 
The only way Garrett is on Danny's radar is if he has a radar gun and its aimed at opponents sideline.
 
RXP;3026485 said:
When we move on to Jerry Jones, we start agreeing. This team has had problems for years and Jerry has been the sole constant through all of that. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm starting to think this team will go nowhere until Jerry either dies or hands the reigns to Stephen.

As for Wade, he should have been canned on the plane back from Philly last year.

And coaches are responsible when players make the same mistake over and over again. It shows a lack of accountability. Garrett is included.

But that's different than saying Garretts offense is responsible for turnovers. When executed properly, it runs as good as any offense. The stats show this. They move the ball as well or better than everybody, except for NO. They just need to be better in the red zone.

We definitely seem to agree about Jerry and Wade.

I'm mixed on Garrett, but really don't want him as our next HC. I think we could do much better. We have put up decent numbers as an offense, but some of his calls are mindboggling at times and he definitely gets way too pass happy at times and has occasionally gotten away from the run too quickly.

Overall though, a coach does have to rely on the players at his disposal. And yeah, no one does teach turnovers. Romo has just been erratic at times and it's possible some of his decision-making can't be taught. But there are certain mistakes we commit over and over and it's either a dumb group of players or coaching at that point.
 
Bach;3026445 said:
I guess you missed the part where I said the "occasional mishap" will happen. No player has ever been mistake-free and no one is expecitng that.

If you make the same mistakes over and over - then it either falls on coaching or personnel. I wonder who's in charge of personnel? oh yeah, one of the worst GM's in the league.
How did I know you could make this about Jerry? You're too predictable Pa.

I didn't miss the "occasional mishap" commentary. I should have bolded the line after it because that is what I disagree with in part.
 

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