Just want to throw this stat out about Dak

[Steve007]

Honestly OP, I'm not you will now find many fans and/or media saying we should keep Dak. The only issue is how to minimize the impact of his massive dead cap hit. Either way, I'm sure the majority has reached the end of the line with him but like I said in another thread, he doesn't play defense. Their failure is on the same level........just not money-wise.

Daks dead cap hit would be more than his contract next season. It would be better to keep him one more season or extend the contract and trade him.

 

[FVSTONE]

Biggest choke artist in nfl histrory

AND to think he get's paid for choking!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bigdog]

Dak Prescott is a good man and a good football player who should not receive a contract extension from the Dallas Cowboys. They need to move on - it isn’t going to happen with him.

Agree but if you do give him an extension it better be a discount due to his playoff performances. I know that it is not all on Dak but qbs are judged by wins and losses. That is just how it is. I will give him all the praise in the world if he succeeds but he should also get the criticism if he doesn’t. This is the profession he is in

 

[Plankton]

Agree but if you do give him an extension it better be a discount due to his playoff performances. I know that it is not all on Dak but qbs are judged by wins and losses. That is just how it is. I will give him all the praise in the world if he succeeds but he should also get the criticism if he doesn’t. This is the profession he is in

Sadly, any extension would be a market resetting contract. It's the way the game is played now, and I don't see Prescott or Todd France operating contrary to that.

 

[Bigdog]

Sadly, any extension would be a market resetting contract. It's the way the game is played now, and I don't see Prescott or Todd France operating contrary to that.

Unfortunately, I agree with you but hoping the JJ can use that in his negotiations

 

[Plankton]

Unfortunately, I agree with you but hoping the JJ can use that in his negotiations

If there's one thing that the Jones Boys have shown in contract negotiations, it's that they will get taken behind the woodshed time and time again. Prescott's last contract, Elliott's contract, etc.

 

[Bigdog]

If there's one thing that the Jones Boys have shown in contract negotiations, it's that they will get taken behind the woodshed time and time again. Prescott's last contract, Elliott's contract, etc.

So true

 

[jsb357]

He's now 2-5 in the playoffs.

That's the worst postseason record in NFL History for any QB that has started at least 5 games.

that's kinda bad

 

[Jarv]

What Cooper Rush's playoff record? What is Trey Lance's? What was Tony Romo's for that matter?

I understand Dak fails in big moments, which has been true for years. But what is it you want? Are you okay with Dallas having a few losing seasons without him? Are you okay not making the playoffs at all for a few years, maybe longer?

Look at the Giants, they drafted a QB in the first round. How's that working out for them? Look at the Commanders, they drafted RG III. They tried other QBs too, How's that working out?

Most QBs drafted in the first round fail. That is a fact. Maybe one or 2 per year wind up winners. I understand Dak's failures, but the idea that getting rid of him is possible, or fixes the problems with this team is preposterous.

Well then we should just shut down the franchise, we have a current QB that chokes in high pressure games and according to you will never find another QB ever again. We might as well just give up on football since it's impossible to replace a QB.

 

[Creeper]

We haven't won anything that has mattered in near 30 years.

Multiple teams have built a contender, blew it up, and rebuilt back into contenders in 3 years or less.

What are you afraid of losing out on?

You just said it yourself, we haven't won anything in 30 years. If we blow it up and and build it again only to get back to where we are, as you say we have for 30 years, then what did we accomplish? All I am saying is if you are unhappy with making the playoffs for 3 straight years and losing early, then how will you really feel about not making the playoffs at all and possibly being the basement dwellers of the NFCE?

I know Dak soiled the sheets again yesterday. I don't think that is going to change. But I also saw our defense get shredded by a pretty mediocre offense. and frankly, the way they were shredded with all those blown coverages and gaping holes, was embarrassing. Why not focus on that? This defense has been porous as heck for the last 2 months and we saw the first signs of it against Arizona. If someone is not shredding them running the football, they are beating them in the air. Green Bay did both.

I know Dak is not great and is seriously flawed in big games, but it is a pipe dream to think Dallas will cut him, and it would hamper them from fixing the defense. We will wind up with a bad offense and a bad defense and I do not see how that feels better than losing to Green Bay in the Wild Card round.

On the other hand, we can fix this defense with what resources we have available. Get a few big bodies up front and at LB and this defense will be very very good. But to do that we need to change the philosophy, which means getting rid of Quinn.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

What Cooper Rush's playoff record? What is Trey Lance's? What was Tony Romo's for that matter?

I understand Dak fails in big moments, which has been true for years. But what is it you want? Are you okay with Dallas having a few losing seasons without him? Are you okay not making the playoffs at all for a few years, maybe longer?

Look at the Giants, they drafted a QB in the first round. How's that working out for them? Look at the Commanders, they drafted RG III. They tried other QBs too, How's that working out?

Most QBs drafted in the first round fail. That is a fact. Maybe one or 2 per year wind up winners. I understand Dak's failures, but the idea that getting rid of him is possible, or fixes the problems with this team is preposterous.

So we do nothing....on the chance doing something does nothing?
Odd logic.

 

[BigD_95]

Daks dead cap hit would be more than his contract next season. It would be better to keep him one more season or extend the contract and trade him.

I'm all for trading Dak if you can find a sucker.

 

[nobody]

What Cooper Rush's playoff record? What is Trey Lance's? What was Tony Romo's for that matter?

I understand Dak fails in big moments, which has been true for years. But what is it you want? Are you okay with Dallas having a few losing seasons without him? Are you okay not making the playoffs at all for a few years, maybe longer?

Look at the Giants, they drafted a QB in the first round. How's that working out for them? Look at the Commanders, they drafted RG III. They tried other QBs too, How's that working out?

Most QBs drafted in the first round fail. That is a fact. Maybe one or 2 per year wind up winners. I understand Dak's failures, but the idea that getting rid of him is possible, or fixes the problems with this team is preposterous.

So going with a proven choke artist and guaranteed continual failure is somehow better than the possibility of failing? Interesting logic. Sometimes you have to take a risk to improve. Dak's proven he can't get it done. It might take a couple of seasons to find his replacement, but really what have we lost if we have a couple of seasons where we struggle? We're going to choke with Dak anyway. Might as well start the search. He's far from the only problem but one should not keep him because of fear of the unknown. We know what we have in him.

 

[Creeper]

So we do nothing....on the chance doing something does nothing?
Odd logic.

We don't do nothing. But we have to accept the situation we are in. Trust me, if we could trade Dak, I would absolutely propose a trade for the right picks. But Dak has a no trade clause. Thanks Jerry. And a no franchise tag clause, also thanks, Jerry. And blaming Dak is just an emotional knee jerk reaction anyway. Yes, Dak was bad yesterday to start the game. Yes, Dak has been bad other time in pressure situations. Also, yes, I do not think this will change. But the mistake in re-signing Dak happened when Jerry paid him $40 million for 4 years. That's when Jerry had some leverage. He could have worked out a better deal with Dak, or as I proposed then, walked away from him. Dak was never worth $40 million and I have raise the December 2019 game against the Eagles as an example of why. Also, We've know what Dak is and once Jerry gave him this ridiculous contract and gave away all his leverage, the right answer was to deal with Dak's limitations by building a better run game and a defense that can stop the run. Dallas did neither. So instead of taking responsibility away from Dak in big games, they managed to make him more critical. Dak chokes under that kind of pressure.

So where are we now? Dak can't be traded or cut without seriously hampering the team going forward due to the CAP. We have one more year of his deal, and $59 million CAP cost in 2024. Dak is going to be hear another year at least. So what can we do? First we need to make CAP room to sing players before free agency comes. I am afraid the only reasonable way to do that is to extend Dak again. But this time Jerry has to hold strong on the contract. No way he should give Dak $55 or $60 million but I think we all know he will. I would offer him $45 million which I know he will never take, but to me, that is what he will be worth on my team that will run the football and play defense. If Dak doesn't like it he can agree to a trade and go find a partner who ill be willing to trade for him. In the meantime, I find whatever CAP savings I can get and I use it on the front 7 of my defense. Make due everywhere else, but that front 7 needs an overhaul in the worst way. Of course this would require a new DC, so I would say good bye to Dan Quinn. I use the draft to find DTs, DEs and LBs with size and the ability to stop the run as well as rush the passer. It may take 2 years to get this done but It has to get done.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

We don't do nothing. But we have to accept the situation we are in. Trust me, if we could trade Dak, I would absolutely propose a trade for the right picks. But Dak has a no trade clause. Thanks Jerry. And a no franchise tag clause, also thanks, Jerry. And blaming Dak is just an emotional knee jerk reaction anyway. Yes, Dak was bad yesterday to start the game. Yes, Dak has been bad other time in pressure situations. Also, yes, I do not think this will change. But the mistake in re-signing Dak happened when Jerry paid him $40 million for 4 years. That's when Jerry had some leverage. He could have worked out a better deal with Dak, or as I proposed then, walked away from him. Dak was never worth $40 million and I have raise the December 2019 game against the Eagles as an example of why. Also, We've know what Dak is and once Jerry gave him this ridiculous contract and gave away all his leverage, the right answer was to deal with Dak's limitations by building a better run game and a defense that can stop the run. Dallas did neither. So instead of taking responsibility away from Dak in big games, they managed to make him more critical. Dak chokes under that kind of pressure.

So where are we now? Dak can't be traded or cut without seriously hampering the team going forward due to the CAP. We have one more year of his deal, and $59 million CAP cost in 2024. Dak is going to be hear another year at least. So what can we do? First we need to make CAP room to sing players before free agency comes. I am afraid the only reasonable way to do that is to extend Dak again. But this time Jerry has to hold strong on the contract. No way he should give Dak $55 or $60 million but I think we all know he will. I would offer him $45 million which I know he will never take, but to me, that is what he will be worth on my team that will run the football and play defense. If Dak doesn't like it he can agree to a trade and go find a partner who ill be willing to trade for him. In the meantime, I find whatever CAP savings I can get and I use it on the front 7 of my defense. Make due everywhere else, but that front 7 needs an overhaul in the worst way. Of course this would require a new DC, so I would say good bye to Dan Quinn. I use the draft to find DTs, DEs and LBs with size and the ability to stop the run as well as rush the passer. It may take 2 years to get this done but It has to get done.

Pre-June 1st 2024 saves us 34 million in cap dollars and the 59 million gets paid and divided in 2 years.
Sorry Dak aint worth 1 dollar at this point unless beating Dog teams in the regular season is your thing.
P.S.This team esp CD is done with Dak and it showed!

 

[Mk2_Cowboys]

He's now 2-5 in the playoffs.

That's the worst postseason record in NFL History for any QB that has started at least 5 games.

That’s the most important Dak stat ever posted on these forums .

 

[glimmerman]

I totally disagree. If Dak had a good game, our defense would not have been so super exposed. Pick 6's, 3 and outs...no points.

I mean that super stresses your defense. Come on.

I totally disagree. If Dak had a good game, our defense would not have been so super exposed. Pick 6's, 3 and outs...no points.

I mean that super stresses your defense. Come on.

Neither of us can TOTALLY disagree. The one thing I will say is that I checked out man. In the second half I knew we would either have the come back of the century or the route would continue. And no spark on either side. You know that same feeling because if you’re an actual Cowboys fan and not just a troll then you know. And I am not calling you a troll. So don’t get offended by my statement.

I can’t defend Dak and even his biggest fanboys can’t. While he used his legs like we all knew he needed to he still threw a couple of passes that he just don’t usually throw. That pick 6 he never throws. Why take that chance then..

 

[hopemsu]

Aikman 7-0 2 SBs 1 SB MVP during his first 7 playoff starts.

Yet for some Dak’s fans… Dak carries his teams while Aikman was a bus driver.

Aikmans stats are hot garbage on any team that doesn’t have hall of famers everywhere and 3 Super Bowls.. Put aikman on any team other than the 49ers or cowboys and he doesn’t scratch the HOF

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Dude is corny as hell. Put this up there with the honey comment.

How does Dakfeel about heels? Stilleto, mid-heel or sensible wear?

 

[nate dizzle]

How does Dakfeel about heels? Stilleto, mid-heel or sensible wear?

Ask Zeke.