Just want to throw this stat out about Dak

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Pre-June 1st 2024 saves us 34 million in cap dollars and the 59 million gets paid and divided in 2 years.
Sorry Dak aint worth 1 dollar at this point unless beating Dog teams in the regular season is your thing.
P.S.This team esp CD is done with Dak and it showed!
You mean post June 1 I assume, and yes, it would save us $34 million but we'd still have $34 million to eat in 2025. I am not saying they can't do it, or shouldn't do it. In fact, that is the only leverage Jerry has as long as he is willing to go in another direction with another QB, one which he has not idea about right now. Eating that much dead money in 2024 and 2025 will preclude the team from signing some players, including a top QB replacement for Dak. And the Cowboys would have to get pretty lucky to find one in the draft.

Jerry is going to extend Dak. We all know it. I understand why people suggest cutting Dak and want to talk about it, but I'd rather focus on what is possible. The question is, how do we win with Dak at QB? The answer is make him less a part of the offense. But just imagine for a minute a team without Dak at QB. Who do you replace him with? Trey Lance? I can see that but we haven't seen Trey Lance all year and to assume he would win more than Dak or win in the playoffs if just wishful thinking.
 

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Neither of us can TOTALLY disagree. The one thing I will say is that I checked out man. In the second half I knew we would either have the come back of the century or the route would continue. And no spark on either side. You know that same feeling because if you’re an actual Cowboys fan and not just a troll then you know. And I am not calling you a troll. So don’t get offended by my statement.

I can’t defend Dak and even his biggest fanboys can’t. While he used his legs like we all knew he needed to he still threw a couple of passes that he just don’t usually throw. That pick 6 he never throws. Why take that chance then..
Oh I am not offended at all. I assure you I am no troll. About the only thing I get upped about is when people argue stuff I never said, that is maddening.

And yes, I am an actual Cowboys fan, 50+ years.

So anyway...yes, Dak had a perplexing game. It would seem, based on some other games, he just can't dig the team out of a hole. We get down a couple scores and he loses his mind. And, not many avenues to do anything about it.
 

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Aikmans stats are hot garbage on any team that doesn’t have hall of famers everywhere and 3 Super Bowls.. Put aikman on any team other than the 49ers or cowboys and he doesn’t scratch the HOF
You are trying to argue a "what if" while the rest of us are arguing "what is".

You have no chance in hell of winning this debate.
 

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Oh I am not offended at all. I assure you I am no troll. About the only thing I get upped about is when people argue stuff I never said, that is maddening.

And yes, I am an actual Cowboys fan, 50+ years.

So anyway...yes, Dak had a perplexing game. It would seem, based on some other games, he just can't dig the team out of a hole. We get down a couple scores and he loses his mind. And, not many avenues to do anything about it.
I think if we had a good running game we would have had a better season. We refused to address the RB position and this O-Line coach is going to need to be replaced. And you have been a Cowboys fan a little longer than me I am pushing 50 years now. It’s frustrating but at least we have seen them win it all. Seems JJ made that deal a long time ago with Nike and the league has been against him ever since. Then trying and failing to get goodelll out.

Funny we got blown out and they finally started calling the flags on Parsons being held..
 

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Are we forgetting the Win & get in games that TRomo failed against each NFC team for 3 years?
 

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I have seen some argue that he led us to a divisional title.

But honestly, we won the division due to an epic Eagles collapse, moreso than Dak leading us to the title.
Really? I mean, we had so many big leads, he was taken out of the 4th quarter. I mean, he deserves some credit. I know you disagree, but you can't have it both ways.
 

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I think if we had a good running game we would have had a better season. We refused to address the RB position and this O-Line coach is going to need to be replaced. And you have been a Cowboys fan a little longer than me I am pushing 50 years now. It’s frustrating but at least we have seen them win it all. Seems JJ made that deal a long time ago with Nike and the league has been against him ever since. Then trying and failing to get goodelll out.

Funny we got blown out and they finally started calling the flags on Parsons being held..
I noticed that about parsons too. Told wifey "NOW they throwing flags". Very odd indeed.
 

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I noticed that about parsons too. Told wifey "NOW they throwing flags". Very odd indeed.
I told my wife after first quarter we were going to lose. She said don’t be negative there’s still 3 quarters left. I said trust me they are having one of those games. They are not prepared. Not the coaches or the players. We over looked them.
 

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Aikman 7-0 2 SBs 1 SB MVP during his first 7 playoff starts.

Yet for some Dak’s fans… Dak carries his teams while Aikman was a bus driver.
Actually, Aikman's career stats are 11-5 in the post season. But I understand what your point is.
 

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Actually, Aikman's career stats are 11-5 in the post season. But I understand what your point is.
Aikman had a historic team around him. But Dak choked and tries to do to much in big games. Take what the defense gives you… He was forcing to many tight window passes. The staff didn’t help. Quinn continued to run a zone Defense and love had someone open everytime he dropped back. With 0 pressure.
 

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I'm pissed the moderators quickly snuffed out the idea of calling people out. Those people that argued with me deserves to have their noses rubbed on a concrete sidewalk.
The whole team failed. You just wanna blame one guy.
 

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Aikman had a historic team around him. But Dak choked and tries to do to much in big games. Take what the defense gives you… He was forcing to many tight window passes. The staff didn’t help. Quinn continued to run a zone Defense and love had someone open everytime he dropped back. With 0 pressure.
The entire coaching staff sucks. Although they didn’t have much to work with. We overachieved and then underachieved. We’re the best of the worst and that’s all we are. I don’t know why people are so upset and expected more.
 

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The whole team failed. You just wanna blame one guy.
Yes they did fail! The defense was horrible but did you see how that awful GB defense played inspired football because their QB inspired them with his play. That's called elevating players around you. When you have a QB that is the face of the franchise and getting paid like the best QBs in the league he needs to be part of the solution not part of the problem.
 

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The entire coaching staff sucks. Although they didn’t have much to work with. We overachieved and then underachieved. We’re the best of the worst and that’s all we are. I don’t know why people are so upset and expected more.
I wasn’t expecting more. I was hoping for more. But I knew if we did not stop the run we would get blown out. They simply as an organization ignored and looked past this team. Didn’t run the ball or stop it. I think they expected Dak to throw the ball 40 times with no picks and win. Even if he did it would have taken a few breaks going our way or we could not have kept pace. Stupid zone Defense and sending no pressure on passing downs. Middle of the field wide open. Honestly they could have just ran the ball every time and won. Like I said earlier. I mentally checked out of the game by halftime. I think the team never checked in at all…
 
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