Kaepernick sits during national anthem

[jcollins28]

All I will say is that he couldn't have picked a better city to show off his anti-American views. Some niner fans will be pissed but any other stadium in this country he would be booed right out of the joint by his own "fans".

 

[erod]

Americans make too big a deal of the national anthem. Youse lads need to relax.

Yeah, never mind the millions of people who died so you could write that.

 

[BAZ]

Yeah, never mind the millions of people who died so you could write that.

Did they sacrifice themselves for broadband?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

He's a disgrace. Never liked him.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Free country - he can do what he wants. Doesn't bother me. A couple years ago when he was good at running and could actually hit the side of a barn, maybe his protest would have carried some weight. Now that he is a has-been with no future, few people pay attention to him.

I'm sure SF doesn't mind. SF will bubble wrap him and tie him to a bench so he doesn't get hurt. Last thing SF wants is for him to get hurt doing anything in 2016 and they are on the hook for $14M in 2017.

 

[RS12]

Its a free country and if thats how he feels it doesnt bother me, really dont care. There are people getting away with a lot worse every day that doesnt get publicized.

 

[erod]

He has the right to do this.

And I have the right to call him the cockroach piece of trash he is.

 

[bkeavs]

its a publicity stunt by him and his agent to have a beef with the organization when they cut him

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Nobody ever said that this country is perfect.

But, this has been a country that...time and time again, has righted its wrongs and righted the wrongs of other countries.

Why?

Because this country has a popular belief that we can always do better, that we can always open our minds to change and generally try to do the right thing.

There are a lot of things that have gone on in this country that I'm not happy with. But I also understand that no other country has given as many people the freedoms to so many people that we enjoy today.

I stand for the National Anthem because not only is this the greatest country on earth, but I have respect for this country. Even though there are things that this country has done that I haven't agreed with. But, I know that this country doesn't stand for those things and it certainly doesn't stand for oppressing black people.

As bad as it is for Kaepernick to not show the respect to stand for the flag, I'm disgusted with the Niners organization for being okay with this.

It's one thing to bring up issues and expecting our country to act better and expect more, but it's another thing to denounce the country like Kaepernick did.

"If you can't root for your team, then you should get the hell out of the stadium" - South Park





YR

 

[erod]

its a publicity stunt by him and his agent to have a beef with the organization when they cut him

Bingo. When he gets cut because he's too stupid to be an NFL quarterback, he can claim it was because of this.

 

[mattjames2010]

National Anthem before every game, the same ol' song and dance, is boring. Admit it, while that's going on, you guys are going to get your beer and bag of doritos. You're not standing there with your hand on your chest with tears streaming down your face thinking about all the fallen soldiers. Don't be hypocritical folks. If you're not obligated to do it no one else is.

Having said that: His reasoning is stupid.

 

[CF74]

Should cost him one game check...

-Next!!!

 

[Nightman]

National Anthem before every game, the same ol' song and dance, is boring. Admit it, while that's going on, you guys are going to get your beer and bag of doritos. You're not standing there with your hand on your chest with tears streaming down your face thinking about all the fallen soldiers. Don't be hypocritical folks. If you're not obligated to do it no one else is.

Having said that: His reasoning is stupid.

Speak for yourself

 

[Yakuza Rich]

National Anthem before every game, the same ol' song and dance, is boring. Admit it, while that's going on, you guys are going to get your beer and bag of doritos. You're not standing there with your hand on your chest with tears streaming down your face thinking about all the fallen soldiers. Don't be hypocritical folks. If you're not obligated to do it no one else is.

Having said that: His reasoning is stupid.

Speak for yourself. I always make it a point to stand at attention during the National Anthem of any event. And the vast majority of people I know and associate with are the same way.

Nobody is asking for anybody to have tears streaming down their face while the National Anthem is being played and thinking about fallen soldiers. And it has really little to do with fallen soldiers. It has to do with the respect for this country, its forefathers and citizens along with the great men and women who have served this country whether it was at war time or at peace and if they survived or have passed away.

Hell, I stand at attention for the Canadian National Anthem when it is played. It's the respectful thing to do. This clown feeling that the flag and the National Anthem represents the oppression of black people is reprehensible. And the Niners supporting him is even worse. I think his 15 minutes are just about up. Hopefully he'll retire and take his millions and move to a different part of the world where he won't be so oppressed.




YR

 

[mattjames2010]

Speak for yourself. I always make it a point to stand at attention during the National Anthem of any event. And the vast majority of people I know and associate with are the same way.

Nobody is asking for anybody to have tears streaming down their face while the National Anthem is being played and thinking about fallen soldiers. And it has really little to do with fallen soldiers. It has to do with the respect for this country, its forefathers and citizens along with the great men and women who have served this country whether it was at war time or at peace and if they survived or have passed away.

Hell, I stand at attention for the Canadian National Anthem when it is played. It's the respectful thing to do. This clown feeling that the flag and the National Anthem represents the oppression of black people is reprehensible. And the Niners supporting him is even worse. I think his 15 minutes are just about up. Hopefully he'll retire and take his millions and move to a different part of the world where he won't be so oppressed.




YR

First off, once again, I'll go ahead and speak for the majority: You are eating your bag of doritos and drinking your beer and still talking football while this is going on if you didn't change the channel already. I'm not budging on this issue. I'll easily counter you: "Nobody I know stands during the national anthem at home"

YOUR reasoning for standing means little to me. Simple fact is: You don't have to stand and you don't have to give an explanation. There is nothing to debate here. This isn't **** Germany.

For as immature as you believe he's acting, the outrage is just as immature. Grow up.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

First off, once again, I'll go ahead and speak for the majority: You are eating your bag of doritos and drinking your beer and still talking football while this is going on if you didn't change the channel already. I'm not budging on this issue. I'll easily counter you: "Nobody I know stands during the national anthem at home"

YOUR reasoning for standing means little to me. Simple fact is: You don't have to stand and you don't have to give an explanation. There is nothing to debate here.

I can't recall the National Anthem playing on the TV before a game. I was referencing to standing at the National Anthem at the game.

The other point of emphasis is that if somebody is not standing for the National Anthem at home...it's in the privacy of their own home. Unlike Kaepernick who whored out the country so he could garner attention for himself. All for a cause he really doesn't care for because with his money and influence...he could use other methods to help fight against the 'oppression' of black people in this country that would be far more effective.

Finally, I don't need an explanation for somebody not standing during the National Anthem. Them not standing tells me all I need to know about them. I didn't ask for an explanation from Kaepernick...he willingly gave one. And that reasoning as you stated...is stupid.




YR

 

[mattjames2010]

I can't recall the National Anthem playing on the TV before a game. I was referencing to standing at the National Anthem at the game.

The other point of emphasis is that if somebody is not standing for the National Anthem at home...it's in the privacy of their own home. Unlike Kaepernick who whored out the country so he could garner attention for himself. All for a cause he really doesn't care for because with his money and influence...he could use other methods to help fight against the 'oppression' of black people in this country that would be far more effective.

Finally, I don't need an explanation for somebody not standing during the National Anthem. Them not standing tells me all I need to know about them. I didn't ask for an explanation from Kaepernick...he willingly gave one. And that reasoning as you stated...is stupid.




YR

Again, this is not **** Germany. The "privacy of your own home" does not work here. Sure, the NFL can make a rule about this or fine him, but that is a reaction from the NFL to avoid outrage (Like you are displaying here). Though, I'll be highly surprised if they criticize a Kap due to his skin color and the type of message he was trying to get across. I don't know what the whole "whoring out" thing was supposed to man, but whatever.

All this "respect" and and what this country supposedly means to you. Yeah, this country is considered a free country. This is far more relevant to free expression than anything. Meaning: Public protest, different forms of values and ideals, and expression through art. If anything, I think he was following more about what this country is about than you. The "I didn't ask for an explanation" doesn't work either. It's speculation as to why he didn't stand, PFT is drawing a conclusion on a retweet on Twitter. If that's the reason, yeah I consider it stupid. But unlike you, I rather have debates about this topic. I don't automatically judge someone's character on something as petty as this. Even if there was no hint of an explanation, he would have been criticized. Two women in burqas several months back were criticized for not standing during a baseball games, many getting racial slurs thrown their way.

Once again: No one is obligated to stand. We all have our ideals and reasons. Your reasoning, if you don't stand, it tells you EVERYTHING about someone's character and you are rightfully criticized before a debate. When you start worrying about someone sitting during a damn anthem, you are closer to a tyrannical state than a free state.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Again, this is not **** Germany.

Never said it was.

Never said that he had to stand for the National Anthem.

I have said that what he did was disrespectful and how he whored out the country so he could garner attention to himself.

The "privacy of your own home" does not work here.

Sure it does.

When somebody is in their own home, other people cannot see them not standing at attention for the National Anthem (and again, I don't recall many times the National Anthem is played on TV before a game. Furthermore, if I'm at home and if the National Anthem is playing...nobody knows whether I'm standing at attention or not.

You're the one that came up with the faulty example to feebly attempt to support Kaepernick. Just because it's faulty you can't say 'it doesn't work here' and think that is a credible argument.

I don't know what the whole "whoring out" thing was supposed to man, but whatever.

It's simple. Not standing for the National Anthem accomplishes NOTHING in terms of helping stop oppression towards black people (Kaepernick's words, not mine). You can't even use the 'raising awareness' excuse as Kaepernick has because everybody is aware of the issues involving black people and police officers and how many people believe that black people are oppressed in this country.

If Kaepernick truly cared about this 'oppression', there are numerous ways for somebody of his wealth to fight this oppression.

Start a group that helps black people that claim to be the victim of police brutality to help pay for lawyers to go to court and fight these allegations.

Start a group that pays for police cameras to be attached to policemen (policemen have welcomed the cameras more than they have protested against them).

Get a group together to pressure politicians to have better screening, training and higher accountability of police officers.

Start a program to bring black citizens and police officers together so they can understand what police officers are looking for when they pull somebody over or are arresting somebody (might actually save lives).

Those ideas would have a much greater far reaching impact than sitting out a National Anthem.

Yet he did so because he wanted attention for HIMSELF. Thus, he whored out the country so he could get some attention.

The "I didn't ask for an explanation" doesn't work either.

It's speculation as to why he didn't stand,

Wrong.

He has stated why he didn't stand as he told NFLN's Steve Wyche.

“I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color”

I didn't need an explanation. It's not hard to figure out why somebody would purposely not stand at the National Anthem in a situation like this.

Once again: No one is obligated to stand. We all have our ideals and reasons. Your reasoning, if you don't stand, it tells you EVERYTHING about someone's character and you are rightfully criticized before a debate. When you start worrying about someone sitting during a damn anthem, you are closer to a tyrannical state than a free state.

Never said that it was a law to have somebody stand at the National Anthem.

I've said over and over again...he is being disrespectful and I didn't need an explanation...I knew he was trying to be disrespectful.

He doesn't care about his cause because not standing for the National Anthem accomplished NOTHING for his cause. He is an opportunist that I wish he move to another country where he won't feel like they oppress black people (good luck in finding that).

The Niners should have stated that while they do not agree with Kaepernick's views, he has the right to not stand for the National Anthem. Instead, their statement made me believe that they are fine with Kaepernick's views and whoring out of this country.




YR

 

[dogunwo]

isn't standing on the sidelines watching the starter because you suck at your job paid leave?

No, it's not. Your analogy is more equivalent to someone not being picked to lead a project. They are still expected to come to work everyday, which he does.

 

[erod]

National Anthem before every game, the same ol' song and dance, is boring. Admit it, while that's going on, you guys are going to get your beer and bag of doritos. You're not standing there with your hand on your chest with tears streaming down your face thinking about all the fallen soldiers. Don't be hypocritical folks. If you're not obligated to do it no one else is.

Having said that: His reasoning is stupid.

Yeah, that sums you up perfectly.