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JDSmith

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Really let's see what Dak did against Detroit when Zeke didn't play......oh wait a minute that wouldn't fit the agenda though so we can't do that

Detroit has the 28th best defense in the league according to the Aikman Efficiency Ratings. Why not talk about how Dak did against the Browns? The only reason that Detroit even backed into the playoffs was because the Skins **** the bed the last 2 weeks. But hey, if that's what you want to hang your hat on - have at it.
 

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Where did I say Romo wouldn't finish 1 drive? Nice try though
Wasn't referring to you necessarily, but all the ridiculous statements about Romo not being able to finish a play or drive that were spewed all year.
 

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Wasn't referring to you necessarily, but all the ridiculous statements about Romo not being able to finish a play or drive that were spewed all year.
I said I have no faith in Romo finishing a game and still believe it. When he came into the game I was happy for him but was worried he was young to get smashed. Seemed like the team played much more harder to give Romo a great drive
 

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I said I have no faith in Romo finishing a game and still believe it. When he came into the game I was happy for him but was worried he was young to get smashed. Seemed like the team played much more harder to give Romo a great drive
Like Williams loafing on his first play or Fred missing a block on his second? No, they weren't really trying any harder.
 

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Detroit has the 28th best defense in the league according to the Aikman Efficiency Ratings. Why not talk about how Dak did against the Browns? The only reason that Detroit even backed into the playoffs was because the Skins **** the bed the last 2 weeks. But hey, if that's what you want to hang your hat on - have at it.
Did Zeke play in the Browns game or not? Keep on with your agenda though
 

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Like Williams loafing on his first play or Fred missing a block on his second? No, they weren't really trying any harder.
Yes they were. Romo wasn't touched, while Dak and Sanchez was hit. Tell yourself whatever you want though
 

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Yes they were. Romo wasn't touched, while Dak and Sanchez was hit. Tell yourself whatever you want though
Probably due to a pocket presence which neither of the other 2 have, not due to them trying any harder lol.
 

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I really hope not, because Zeke is twice the player McFadden is. If we're actually better with Romo and McFadden, well then the coaches are freaking idiots.
If you're basing a QB decision on the running backs, that's not even a QB decision.
 

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Did Zeke play in the Browns game or not? Keep on with your agenda though

My agenda is that Romo is a better QB than Dak. You may disagree, but you'd be wrong. Which is fine, you've been wrong before - or were they handing the ball to Jackson when Zeke was on the sidelines? Romo is better, Dak is worse, plain enough for you? Dak against a tough defense needs the best RB in football or we are utterly screwed, does that clear it up? I don't care how he does against the scrubs of the NFL, I'm not interested in how he looks against defenses in the bottom of the league.
 

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If you're basing a QB decision on the running backs, that's not even a QB decision.

In no way is McFadden remotely as good as Zeke. The difference between them is night and day. If Romo is so much better than Dak that he overcomes that difference (and on a team that runs the ball more than 50 percent of the time) then they are definitely starting the wrong guy.
 

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"With Elliott out of the game, the offense was a fraction of what it normally was" rings hollow with people who saw how we moved the ball early without Elliott. Depending on how many possessions we get, we were on a pace for 350-400 yards and 27-30 points without Elliott until the #3 QB came in. So it sounds like either you didn't watch the game all that closely, or you're simply not being objective.

Somebody's bound to point out that kind of thing, so don't be surprised or take offense when it happens. All part of the give and take.

Its comical to say I'm not being objective.

My point is the offense is a lot worse with Zeke out. The comparison is our offense with Zeke and our offense without Zeke.

Your called that bad analysis (or whatever) by comparing the offense with the excellent stats of our #2 QB (who never played with Zeke) to the offense of with the horrible stats of our #3 QB (who never played with Zeke). That is a complete tangent and it isn't objective.
 

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In no way is McFadden remotely as good as Zeke. The difference between them is night and day. If Romo is so much better than Dak that he overcomes that difference (and on a team that runs the ball more than 50 percent of the time) then they are definitely starting the wrong guy.

I thought Romo would get the starting job back when he was healthy, but I can see the logic of sticking with Dak. You make the transition to your next QB (who is excellent) seamlessly and you can trade Romo in the offseason while he still has value. There is also the "ain't broke, don't fix it" argument of a team that was 10 - 1 (or whatever it was at that point).

I don't think we will get the full story for a long time and I don't pretend to know why the decision was made - but I can see both sides of the decision they made.
 

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In the last series he played in we saw 1 of Dak's weaknesses compared to Romo - spotting the unblocked blitzer and making the adjustment. It got him hit pretty hard when the blitzer came in hard unblocked.

In his only series on the 2nd or 3rd pass he threw, not the TD pass, Romo spotted the unblocked blitzer, pointed him out and made the adjustment then cooly hit I think it was McFadden over the middle.

There ARE some things a 13 year vet is better at than a rookie at this point, and it's not even debatable.
 

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Really let's see what Dak did against Detroit when Zeke didn't play......oh wait a minute that wouldn't fit the agenda though so we can't do that

LOL.. your question is how Dak played when Dallas was up 21 points and they rested Zeke?

Gee, I would think he played pretty well in garbage time!
 

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In the last series he played in we saw 1 of Dak's weaknesses compared to Romo - spotting the unblocked blitzer and making the adjustment. It got him hit pretty hard when the blitzer came in hard unblocked.

In his only series on the 2nd or 3rd pass he threw, not the TD pass, Romo spotted the blitzer, pointed him out and made the adjustment then cooly hit I think it was McFadden over the middle.

There ARE some things a 13 year vet is better at than a rookie at this point, and it's not even debatable.

Sure, but you aren't following the rules here.

Poster: Dak is awesome, he is the future.

CBZ: Exactly!

Poster: Dak is having the best rookie season an NFL QB ever had.

CBZ: Totally!

Poster: Dak isn't perfect.

CBZ: Die in a fire, hater!!
 

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Would be great if we have cap space to buy a couple good free agents. This team is on the cusp of greatness and has already grown through great drafting. 2 to 3 FA acquisitions and the young guns getting better may spell Dynasty. Not sure about keeping Carr but he does stay on the field so hes got that going for him

Would love to see Ware finish out his career in Dallas as a part time pass rushing specialist. ?
 

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In no way is McFadden remotely as good as Zeke. The difference between them is night and day. If Romo is so much better than Dak that he overcomes that difference (and on a team that runs the ball more than 50 percent of the time) then they are definitely starting the wrong guy.
You're saying that the gap between Dak and Romo is so huge, that I must be trying to pull a fast one by including Tony's drive as part of our offensive production...and yet this gap between them is so small, that as long as Elliott plays, it doesn't matter which one is QB.
 

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I think Leary is a bull on this offensive line but you can't pay everyone. So I think he's gone, "regrettably" and Collins takes over. Would have liked to see if Collins could play right tackle but I guess he's suited for guard. Maybe we draft a 4th round tackle and see if he can play Free's position. If not, we keep Free right where he's at.
 
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