Kareem Hunt

[xwalker]

All you're showing me is Hunt did a lot more with a lot less touches and not being the lead guy. Thank you.

How is a 4.2 ypc (Hunt) vs 4.6 ypc (Jones) doing more with less touches?

Regardless of how you look at it, there's not a big difference either way.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

The only time Jerry and door should be used in the same sentence is when he's finally walking out of the door of the Cowboys facility for good.

LOL, never going to happen. They will have to carry Jed out of the Cowboys facility.

 

[garyo1954]

2022....

Name Total Att per attempt
Ezekiel,Elliott 876 231 3.79
Kareem,Hunt 468 123 3.80
We're going to cut one guy getting 3.8 per attempt and pick up another guy getting 3.8 per attempt?
Why not just keep the guy you dumped?

 

[Coogiguy03]

If Pollard gets hurt. And we stay as we are. We are VERY thin.

We have pollard, Jones, Davis, Dowdle, and now Vaughn and if you want to get technical we have the FB

 

[phildadon86]

We have pollard, Jones, Davis, Dowdle, and now Vaughn and if you want to get technical we have the FB

Again. If Pollard goes down.

How much do you trust that group? That is all I am saying.

 

[conner01]

They're going to bring Zeke back.

You are ruining my day lol

 

[Verdict]

2022....

Name Total Att per attempt
Ezekiel,Elliott 876 231 3.79
Kareem,Hunt 468 123 3.80
We're going to cut one guy getting 3.8 per attempt and pick up another guy getting 3.8 per attempt?
Why not just keep the guy you dumped?

I am not for nor against your post but I think Hunt has considerable more burst than Zeke. Also, I’m not sure how much relevance you can put on YPC when players play on different teams with and against different players. I’m not saying it’s irrelevant but I’m not so sure how valid that point is either.

 

[Dakota]

Morning y'all. Happy Tuesday.

Would you be willing to bring Hunt in for a visit? The RB room is looking mighty thin, and if something happens to Pollard we would have Vaughan and Davis. I dont see Jones making the 53. Guy couldnt even crack the roster in KC. If you cant beat out CEH. I am worried.

Yes, as soon as we sign OBJ. Tic...tic...tic...

 

[plasticman]

We have Pollard and practice squad bodies, that's all.

How many Joseph Randles and Derric Lassics do the Cowboys have to go through before Jerry Jones figures out that a contributing RB requires some degree of talent.

"Emmitt Smith is a luxury, not a necessity." - Jerry Jones, 1993, just before they went 0-2 without Emmitt to start the season, depended on his legendary performance against the Giants in order to win the division and ended the season as SB MVP.

Are we still going to listen to this guy when it comes to the RB position?

 

[CowboyFrog]

Again. If Pollard goes down.

How much do you trust that group? That is all I am saying.

That depends are we going off production or the size of the player? I watched Deuce play alot and I trust he can carry the rock as a legit RB...many here who have not watched him believe he is a "Turpin" type player who got lucky to lead the NCAA in rushing yards over his last 2 years and be 2nd in carries and 1st in total yards from scrimmage and not get hurt...so I trust this but some dont.

 

[phildadon86]

That depends are we going off production or the size of the player? I watched Deuce play alot and I trust he can carry the rock as a legit RB...many here who have not watched him believe he is a "Turpin" type player who got lucky to lead the NCAA in rushing yards over his last 2 years and be 2nd in carries and 1st in total yards from scrimmage and not get hurt...so I trust this but some dont.

Yeah I think Deuce is a great player. Again though. I dont want to put faith in a 5'5 guy if our lead back goes down. Thats all.

 

[The Quest for Six]

They're going to bring Zeke back.

not happening

 

[The Quest for Six]

You just know it's going to happen.

Jerry refuses to shut that door.

WHy would you listen to anything Jerry says, that's your first mistake, Jerry told us that they were looking at OBJ too, never happened, Jerry likes to blow smoke....don't get suckered into what he says..

 

[The Quest for Six]

The only time Jerry and door should be used in the same sentence is when he's finally walking out of the door of the Cowboys facility for good.

or when the door closes on his coffin....

 

[The Quest for Six]

Don't we have a lot of RB's right now? Dowdle, TP, Jones, Deuce, Malik Davis. Plus Zeke may come back. Do we really need to pay veteran minimum's for Hunt? Not saying I wouldn't welcome the idea.

Zeke is NOT coming back, stop listening to what Jerry says
Pollard, Davis, Jones, Deuce, Dowdle

They're only keeping three

 

[thunderpimp91]

I am not for nor against your post but I think Hunt has considerable more burst than Zeke. Also, I’m not sure how much relevance you can put on YPC when players play on different teams with and against different players. I’m not saying it’s irrelevant but I’m not so sure how valid that point is either.

Hunt
1.9 avg yards before first contact
1.9 avg yards after contact
4.8% broken tackles

Zeke
2.3 avg yards before first contact
1.5 avg yards after contact
3.8% broken tackles

Just for comparison:

Pollard
2.6 avg yards before first contact
2.6 avg yards after contact
5.6% broken tackles

Chubb
2.7 avg yards before first contact
2.3 avg yards after contact
9.2% broken tackles

Even when you start to break down deeper metrics it seems that both Zeke and Hunt at this stage are worse than their counterparts. Going from Pollard to Zeke it seems clear that there is a pretty big downgrade in terms of making players miss and picking up yards after contact. Hunt to Chubb is an ever wider gap, which tells me that it's not an oline issue, and it's not that they played a ton of tough run defenses all year either. Both Zeke and Hunt any way you look at it seem to be losing their legs. Maybe injury plays a part in it, but Zeke/Hunt seem to be pretty much the same declining players as far as being true runners go. They offer different strengths/weaknesses in the pass game though.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Zeke is NOT coming back, stop listening to what Jerry says
Pollard, Davis, Jones, Deuce, Dowdle

They're only keeping three

I'm skeptical of it happening too, but I would wait before making that statement. I doubt we see a vet RB come in before August, but really you're one hamstring pull from Pollard and a guy like Jones not working out before the Cowboys are frantically searching the free agent pool for a starter. Deuce is very unlikely to be a full time player, and Dowdle/Davis still have serious questions about their all around game.

 

[Motorola]

I would pass to be honest. It makes no sense to cut zeke just to turn around and bring in Kareem Hunt. in 2021 he only played in 8 games, and in 2022 he showed major signs of hitting the RB wall. Many Browns fans are looking at Hunt the exact same way Cowboys fans are looking at Zeke.

Hunt turns 28 in three months (August 6th).

 

[xwalker]

Hunt turns 28 in three months (August 6th).

Same age as Hunt...

 

[SlammedZero]

I'd kick the tires on Hunt. I'm just not sure what they see in Ronald Jones. That guy just doesn't move the needle for me. Maybe he can prove me wrong, but not the player I'd want to lean on into the season.