Kazee question

[LandryFan]

They used to fine you whether or not the call was correct or not and then I think you’d get the money back if it was appealed or whatever.

May be, but I don't think that's the case anymore. There have been a number of instances where fines have been levied when flags weren't thrown, and not levied when they were thrown. I think they finally resorted to do the right thing when it comes to player fines.

 

[CrownCowboy]

If you come over the middle you could get hit. It's football and Kazee gets paid to play defense and make plays. The hit was perfectly timed and legal.

It's as simple as that for me.

With that said I love the attitude this defense is starting to take on. They are going after the ball and although they aren't perfect, they are a threat to take the ball away at any time and have made it known that they will knock your block off.

Keep it going. Fine or no fine.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

beautiful f******* hit…

 

[Proof]

Not even sure why that was called since he didn't lead with the helmet and didn't target the guys head.

real time it just looked too brutal. shame, but that's an instinctive flag. they shouldve reviewed it though.

 

[Proof]

It was also a missed tackle that cost us 15 yards of yac.

huh?

 

[Zekeats]

In fairness to the refs that was a bang, bang play and Kazee delivered a big hit. In slow motion it was easy to see it was clean shot, shoulder going into shoulder. However full speed that is hard to tell given the whiplash motion of the WR when he took the hit. Maybe replay needs to be used for that as well because the speed in which it happens in real time is not an easy call to make.

Then take the time to review a 15 yard play just as you do to review a 3 yard play.

 

[The Quest for Six]

I think it was a clean hit to the shoulder, no head to head contact, didn't lead with the crown of his helmet, but I also think the league will fine him for leaving his feet to make the hit...

 

[Jarv]

I think it was a clean hit to the shoulder, no head to head contact, didn't lead with the crown of his helmet, but I also think the league will fine him for leaving his feet to make the hit...

By the way, looking at your username, no disrespect but I hope you have to change it next year. Get rid of Six and make it Seven

 

[dogunwo]

if he delivers the same blow but attempts to make it look like a wrap tackle, no flag would have been thrown. Yes, it was clean though.

 

[Bullflop]

If that last video segment of the hit is viewed closely enough, there's no denying that Kazee left both feet to make the hit. According to the rule #1, it was, indeed, a violation of the rule whereby launching is concerned. If Kazee only had made it with one foot on the ground, it wouldn't have been a legit call. As it was, both feet were clearly off the ground upon contact. Even though the contact to the shoulder was clean, the launching aspect made it illegal. Look closely and you'll clearly see both feet off the ground when the contact occurred.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

The only reason for the penalty is cause he launched himself, but yes a clean hit.

Doesn't the launching himself also need to include a helmet to helmet hit or is just launching at a guy and slamming into his shoulder a penalty? Seems like the kind of play you see every week in the NFL.

 

[OmerV]

Not even sure why that was called since he didn't lead with the helmet and didn't target the guys head.

He pretty much did lead with the helmet, but he didn't actually make contact with his helmet. He made contact with his shoulder pad. And, like you said, he didn't go after the opponents head either. I don't see any way there would be a fine here.

 

[jrumann59]

1. illegally launching into a defenseless opponent. It is an illegal launch if a player (i) leaves both feet prior to contact to spring forward and upward into his opponent, and (ii) uses any part of his helmet to initiate forcible contact against any part of his opponent’s body. (This does not apply to contact against a runner, unless the runner is still considered to be a defenseless player, as defined in Article 7.)

Don't know how he could get fined watching the replay according to the rules

Yep there was no upward launch

 

[jrumann59]

He pretty much did lead with the helmet, but he didn't actually make contact with his helmet. He made contact with his shoulder pad. And, like you said, he didn't go after the opponents head either. I don't see any way there would be a fine here.

Hard not to "lead" with helmet with were the helmet is located in regards to the shoulder. Leading with the helmet term is meant for "spearing" rule, targetting with top of the helmet. That is a text book hit, hit with the should er with the head to the side.

 

[OmerV]

Hard not to "lead" with helmet with were the helmet is located in regards to the shoulder. Leading with the helmet term is meant for "spearing" rule, targetting with top of the helmet. That is a text book hit, hit with the should er with the head to the side.

Well, it is possible to tackle with the face mask up, rather than down with the crown of the helmet leading the way. That's the goal of the rule. But, again, since he didn't actually hit the receiver with the crown of his helmet it doesn't matter. No foul.

 

[Runwildboys]

The big question is; Did anyone else notice the Star Trek font in the video?

 

[Chuck 54]

The call vs Shultz wasn’t called. By that standard, this one shouldn’t have either.

 

[ConstantReboot]

When is anyone going to understand that old men chasing around elite athletes aren't going to get every call right?

This could be EASILY fixed with an additional ref next to a monitor full time, but the league refuses.

I won't give my opinion as to why, but they could get these things correct if they so choose.

They can all embed a chip into each football to help make sure the spotting of the ball is correct.

The NFL is way, way behind when it comes to using technology to make the calls easier for these refs.

 

[fivetwos]

They can all embed a chip into each football to help make sure the spotting of the ball is correct.

The NFL is way, way behind when it comes to using technology to make the calls easier for these refs.

I mean, the commentators have access to replay to discuss calls....why shouldn't the refs to get it right?

Now I'll offer an opinion.....ever notice that when a team is down 2-3 scores the benefit of the doubt on iffy calls miraculously goes their way?

It's about keeping control and keeping TV sets on.

 

[conner01]

In fairness to the refs that was a bang, bang play and Kazee delivered a big hit. In slow motion it was easy to see it was clean shot, shoulder going into shoulder. However full speed that is hard to tell given the whiplash motion of the WR when he took the hit. Maybe replay needs to be used for that as well because the speed in which it happens in real time is not an easy call to make.

That’s always gonna get called
They will error on the side of caution
But i doubt there is a fine and I doubt the league will announce it was a bad call mostly because of the speed of the play and it wasn’t an obvious bad call