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[Red Dragon]

Question: Does Zeke have any right to sign with another NFL team as long as the Cowboys hold his contract? If he holds out indefinitely, and Dallas never budges an inch, he can't sign with anyone else, right?

 

[Bullflop]

Sacks are sacks. You said Dak wouldn't make it through the 89 season because of sacks.....Dak was sacked almost 60 times last year and keep getting back up.

Sure Aikman turned it around but the facts are Aikman was terrible his first few years and I'm sure most of you wanted him gone. Dak has completed 3 years, he still has an entire career to go. Nobody knows how it ends with Dak. My entire point on this is the ones saying Dak is worst then all these cowboys QBs when it's unfair to compare entire careers to 3 years. You must compare how they played the same amount of time.

I have no problem with that last paragraph. The idea that Aikman was inferior to Dak in the first 2 years was due to the horrible team he was cursed with. Dak had a far superior team to support him than Aikman did in his first two years.

Soon after Troy's 3rd regular season was over, he took them to the Super Bowl, the first of three for him in SB XXVII. Suffice it to say, his 3rd year was better than Dak's, wouldn't you say?

 

[Bullflop]

I'm not confused, I will explain it again. You said Dak wouldn't make it in 89 because of sacks...... Sorry but sacks isn't going to stop Dak that's why I pointed to how many sacks he took last year.

That being said yes Dak would have won more than 1 game in 89. Some of those games were close and Dak would have found a way. Hate it all you want but Dak has outplayed Aikman as a QB his first 3 years. Dak is breaking and setting records

You're cherry picking with that sacks business. He played for a horribly untalented team in '89 in addition to the sacks, which were only a small part of the problem. Anyone who was familiar with that situation will verify that. Winning a SB in his 3rd year is something that Dak can't lay claim to, that's for sure.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

You're cherry picking with that sacks business. He played for a horribly untalented team in '89 in addition to the sacks, which were only a small part of the problem. Anyone who was familiar with that situation will verify that. Winning a SB in his 3rd year is something that Dak can't lay claim to, that's for sure.

I'm tired of arguing with him. We lived it and we saw that team. I'm going to be nice from now on. Life's too short arguing with people that have no idea what that team was like. lol

 

[Bullflop]

You don't remember correctly. Dez was hurt and missed games Daks rookie year hence the reason Beasley got more catches. Dak never got a prime Dez or Witten. Were you born yet or perhaps out the country and missed those games.

Dez was basically all but washed up in 2016, that's true. Witten was far from bad that year, so that's untrue. He still had Williams, Witten and Beasley, and a record-breaking performer in Zeke. Where was his Super bowl appearance then, huh? Troy had one, where was his? Like yourself, I saw every game.

You're entitled to think whatever suits you, despite not recognizing Aikman's Super Bowl appearance in his 3rd year. Compare that, if you will. PA is right. Obviously, you have no idea what '89 was like for Aikman -- that much is clear. You conveniently forgot about Troy Aikman's 92 season as well when he culminated it with a Super Bowl. Somebody missed something alright but it surely wasn't yours truly.

Let's see how Dak does this year -- here's hoping it's his best yet, despite all this hubbub!

I honestly like and respect the man and wish him the best, both this year and beyond.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Wasn't just his rookie year, Aikman was terrible for a couple years. Keep running and baking excuses but Aikman was terrible. I'm not comparing eras I'm comparing QBs. Someone says Dak isn't better than all these QBs in Cowboys history so I replied with facts. You didn't seem to have an issue with that statement because it was negative towards Dak.

Blimey! When your midrange passer Dak wins 3 Super Bowls you will have the currency to talk. Right now Dak has one playoff win under his belt. I know, you are trying to ignore that.
I am looking forward to Dak winning one more playoff win this year, which will equal Romo's entire career playoff record.
But let's not throw shade at Aikman.
Dak has a headstart on Aikman in their first 2 years, so let's be happy for that and for him, old fellow.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Are you kidding me? I don't think he's soft. I think he's a darn good QB. What he isn't is elite and those defenses that those Cowboy teams played against would have ruined him. The Giants defenses with LT...the 49ers defenses , The Eagles and even the Deadskins. Why do you think Troy was so fragile in his early years? It was because the hits he took in the first few years with the boys. It's a different game today. You can not compare the 2 eras. Heck I don't even think Romo would have survived it although I think he had a better chance.

Good show, old fellow!
Bloody good show!
Dak is good, yes!
But elite? Spiddlefark! Spiddlefark I say!

 

[Coy]

Doesn't matter, you can have all the football knowledge in the world. Doesn't mean you are correct every single time. I have read his stuff and he is wrong many times...... Just like that stupid tweet you posted.

Lol, I’d say stupid is that you think you know football and he doesn’t, but carry on buddy.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I have no problem with that last paragraph. The idea that Aikman was inferior to Dak in the first 2 years was due to the horrible team he was cursed with. Dak had a far superior team to support him than Aikman did in his first two years.

Soon after Troy's 3rd regular season was over, he took them to the Super Bowl, the first of three for him in SB XXVII. Suffice it to say, his 3rd year was better than Dak's, wouldn't you say?

Aikmans 3rd year he had 11 TDs and 10 picks..... Who really had the better season and who had the better team

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Dez was basically all but washed up in 2016, that's true. Witten was far from bad that year, so that's untrue. He still had Williams, Witten and Beasley, and a record-breaking performer in Zeke. Where was his Super bowl appearance then, huh? Troy had one, where was his? Like yourself, I saw every game.

You're entitled to think whatever suits you, despite not recognizing Aikman's Super Bowl appearance in his 3rd year. Compare that, if you will. PA is right. Obviously, you have no idea what '89 was like for Aikman -- that much is clear. You conveniently forgot about Troy Aikman's 92 season as well when he culminated it with a Super Bowl. Somebody missed something alright but it surely wasn't yours truly.

Let's see how Dak does this year -- here's hoping it's his best yet, despite all this hubbub!

I honestly like and respect the man and wish him the best, both this year and beyond.

Aikman turned into a great QB no doubt. But everyone gives him credit when his 3rd year was terrible too. His team was much better than Daks. Otherwise when Emmitt held out why couldn't a Superbowl winning QB get 1 win?

By the way, career wise no comparison, Aikman is the better QB. My point is everybody is coming his finished career to Daks 3 years. Their first 3 years Dak has outplayed Aikman, that's facts. I'm not saying Dak is better or will be better I'm stating facts.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Blimey! When your midrange passer Dak wins 3 Super Bowls you will have the currency to talk. Right now Dak has one playoff win under his belt. I know, you are trying to ignore that.
I am looking forward to Dak winning one more playoff win this year, which will equal Romo's entire career playoff record.
But let's not throw shade at Aikman.
Dak has a headstart on Aikman in their first 2 years, so let's be happy for that and for him, old fellow.

You misunderstood my point. I'm not throwing shade at Aikman. I'm saying Dak has outplayed Aikman their first 3 years. Those are facts. Will Dak win 3 Superbowls, I hope so but most likely not. Will he won 1, again I hope so but maybe not.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Question: Does Zeke have any right to sign with another NFL team as long as the Cowboys hold his contract? If he holds out indefinitely, and Dallas never budges an inch, he can't sign with anyone else, right?

For Two Years .

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

You misunderstood my point. I'm not throwing shade at Aikman. I'm saying Dak has outplayed Aikman their first 3 years. Those are facts. Will Dak win 3 Superbowls, I hope so but most likely not. Will he won 1, again I hope so but maybe not.

Oh. .
Um, never mind.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I don't think Elliot is even the third best running back in this league. He could be the best overall pretty mentally just can't keep it together

Then this was an EPIC FAIL by the front office...………..you dont draft a RB in the freaking top 4 unless he becomes one of the best RBs in the league.

If Zeke is not even in the top 3, then this whole thing is FUBAR...…………..we just pissed away a top 4 pick in that case.

 

[Skillit]

Way to compare 3 years of Dak to QBs that have completed their career.....

Dak in his first 3 years was absolutely better than those QBs especially Aikman. RBs don't last long in this league so being top 3 runner isn't compared to top 10 QB especially when a few of those QBs are almost 40 and 1 is over 40.

Better than Troy? Ummm Ok. Stats/ record- certainly. The roster was complete garbage when Troy was drafted....but he was in the Super Bowl by year 4.

I’m not bashing Dak, he’s a heck of a lot better than we should have gotten for a 4th round QB. But until he has success without a good running game - I’ll say Zeke makes Dak.

But it’s not like that’s a sin—plenty of all time great QBs had really good RBs. Troy needed Emmit.

It’s no different.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Aikmans 3rd year he had 11 TDs and 10 picks..... Who really had the better season and who had the better team

The eventual results, baby, results!

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

This team aint making the playoffs without Zeke...…......anybody that thinks otherwise is an idiot.

No Zeke = No Playoffs

Zeke knows this, his agent knows this, and the Cowboys know this as well..............that is why a deal will get done soon

Agreed. With that said... I don’t trust him.

He’ll get big contract and get in trouble every year and miss 4 games annually.

 

[Whirlwin]

28-43 373 yards 3 tds.

You're trying to hard.

15 incompletions and he's an MVP LOL

 

[Whirlwin]

Then this was an EPIC FAIL by the front office...………..you dont draft a RB in the freaking top 4 unless he becomes one of the best RBs in the league.

If Zeke is not even in the top 3, then this whole thing is FUBAR...…………..we just pissed away a top 4 pick in that case.

I said it the day we drafted him. I was one of the very few that wanted Zach mutton everyone wanted defense that season. I was one of the few that wanted Ramsey everybody wanted offense That season not as many in the Martin draft but still

 

[Bullflop]

Aikman turned into a great QB no doubt. But everyone gives him credit when his 3rd year was terrible too. His team was much better than Daks. Otherwise when Emmitt held out why couldn't a Superbowl winning QB get 1 win?

By the way, career wise no comparison, Aikman is the better QB. My point is everybody is coming his finished career to Daks 3 years. Their first 3 years Dak has outplayed Aikman, that's facts. I'm not saying Dak is better or will be better I'm stating facts.

Aikmans 3rd year he had 11 TDs and 10 picks..... Who really had the better season and who had the better team

Good catch. I mistakenly mistook Troy's 3rd year, 1991, as the one where and when he won the Super Bowl. It was 1992 when that occurred. In 1991, Aikman missed 5 games and was replaced by Buerlein, who won the next five games. Troy returned for the last game and lost. There was no SB that year and indeed, it was 1992 when that occurred. Honest mistake on my part.

Here's hoping Dak has a career that rivals Aikman's, despite having my doubts that will be the case. Nevertheless, no harm in hoping for it. I've rooted for Dak from the start. My history bears it out, despite having reservations concerning his consistency. I'll still be hoping that the upcoming season proves him as successful as his preseason approval has so far. I'm sure he'll have my support as long as his ongoing success allows.