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[Whirlwin]

They had great quarterback play and defense. We get good quarterback play and good defense.

No they had average Quarterback play great special teams. Please don't say Nick Foles is great in any way shape or form. Why do you think they gave a farm away for Carson I'm not the only one that didn't trust them. They had no choice

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I doubt he would've survived past the 1st quarter of game one, much less a full season. Their OL was that bad back then. Ditto, the defense.

That's why it felt so great winning those SBs. It's like the whole team grew up together and us fans were with them the whole way. I can't tell you how great it felt to win SB XXVll.

 

[Bullflop]

That's why it felt so great winning those SBs. It's like the whole team grew up together and us fans were with them the whole way. I can't tell you how great it felt to win SB XXVll.

It was like I died many painful deaths during each game, died for good at season's end, then came back to life and went to heaven at the SB years later.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

No he wouldn't have. That team was so bad they were lucky to have won one game. Thanks Deadskins.

Maybe you don't remember that season but a few games were within 3-10 points. Yes Dak would have won more than 1 game.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Dak had Dez in his prime, Witten was as good as need be and that OL that was widely recognized as the best in the league. Aikman had a roster that was depleted to the point of being next to worthless when he first took over. The entire Dallas team was hot garbage in Aikman's first year. Huge difference there. Were you even aware of that team in '89? It was horrible. There's every reason in the world why they only won one game when Aikman was a rookie. A good college team would have beaten them -- everyone said so back then.

BS, Dez wasn't in his prime and was hurt. Dak would have won more than one game. Not sure why you guys can't say Aikman was terrible, that's a fact.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I doubt he would've survived past the 1st quarter of game one, much less a full season. Their OL was that bad back then. Ditto, the defense.

Dak was sacked how many times last season....... Didn't miss a snap so again you're wrong

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Maybe you don't remember that season but a few games were within 3-10 points. Yes Dak would have won more than 1 game.

I remember it fine. I like Dak but thinking Dak would have done anything with that team isn't helping your case. Troy was a #1 draft pick and couldn't do anything with that team. Dak had trouble last year without a #1 WR. That team had nobody. Laughingstock of the league. Dak would have never been heard from again if he was on that team. Teams back then could actually hit a QB.I can imagine what would have happened to him in those Bounty Bowl games. That 4-12 team of 2015 was a great team compared to that.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

BS, Dez wasn't in his prime and was hurt. Dak would have won more than one game. Not sure why you guys can't say Aikman was terrible, that's a fact.

Because you're trying to compare different eras. Aikman was bad that first year but you think Dak could have come in and played like he did that first year on that team with the rules they played back then. That team was sick. I don't remember what game it was but my big memory of that season was seeing Crazy Ray just sitting down on the sideline. That team even took the spirit out of him. There was no hope in 1989 and then we got rid of our only star player Herschel Walker. Nobody at that time knew a dynasty was being built. NFL coaches were laughing at us.

 

[Bullflop]

Dak was sacked how many times last season....... Didn't miss a snap so again you're wrong

We were talking about 1989, not last season.

BS, Dez wasn't in his prime and was hurt. Dak would have won more than one game. Not sure why you guys can't say Aikman was terrible, that's a fact.

He wasn't terrible at all -- the whole team was terrible. If Dak had to survive in the conditions Troy had in '89, he'd have been worse. One man can't save the worst team in Dallas C-boys history. When do you think Dak will win a Super Bowl -- anytime soon? Aikman got in the Hall of Fame for a good reason. Hard to believe you don't see that.

 

[Bullflop]

Dak was sacked how many times last season....... Didn't miss a snap so again you're wrong

I don't have a problem at all with Dak last season. I liked him, both then and now, especially since the OL wasn't what it was in the past last season.

My reference to Dak only dealt with what he would have been if he'd had been saddled with what Aikman had to deal with in '89. You're confused.

 

[birdwells1]

No they had average Quarterback play great special teams. Please don't say Nick Foles is great in any way shape or form. Why do you think they gave a farm away for Carson I'm not the only one that didn't trust them. They had no choice

He was great when he needed to be, although he wasn't good enough to win SBMVP. Wait..........

 

[Bullflop]

Dak had a team that was 4-12 and turned it into 13-3. All this talent y'all keep saying Dak had is foolish. Dez and Witten weren't in their prime anymore, Williams? Beasley? No defense?

As a QB Dak has outplayed Aikman in their first 3 years and it's not even close. We know how Aikmans career went but to compare his entire career to Dak who has only 3 years is foolish. Spin it and run around all you want but Aikman was awful his first few seasons.

In Dak's first year as a rookie, Dez was still in his prime, although beginning to wane. I think it was after that that he bombed, if I remember correctly.

In Troy's rookie year of '89, he had next to nothing to work with. Where were you back then? Were you even born yet or perhaps out of the country?

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I agree with some of what you say, but you overate elliot.
They were 3-5 with elliot last year before Amari got here and passing game picked up.
Elliot is good, not as good as he was in 2016 though, and he does not and cannot carry the team.
S. Jones has now said he thinks the offer they made elliot is fair, and he isnt going to give him market value.
The thing is we and you dont know what the jones boys offered E , but also we dont know what elliot is asking for, if you
did you might be saying hey that is too high.

The Jones family has been playing with house money ever since the early 90s. They do what they want to do when they want to do it. You can do that when you are the owner. Having said that...if they want to win a Super Bowl...THIS year....although there are no guarantees in life...the BEST chance for them to do that THIS year...is with Elliot. It is too late to decide you can do it differently. But if a TRUE GM was running this team...we would not be in this predicament. A GM shapes the front office, coaching staff, player personnel, to his/her philosophical approach to winning football games etc....and this entire operation is built to succeed with a workhorse RB. You have one. There is not another one laying around on the couch or buried on some other teams depth chart. This is the bed you made. Now you have to lie in it...or sleep on the floor!

Can we win games without Zeke? Sure. But you are not hoisting Lombardi without him. Heck you might not even host the Lombardi with him. And if you don't...I doubt HE will be the reason you don't. The man donning the headset in Dallas will never win 3 or 4 straight games in the postseason....but that is a different topic for another day.

 

[sideon]

Anybody can run behind our line and JG is a great coach. If I say it enough maybe it will be true.

 

[DandyDon52]

That running game was not working that well in the Philly Game and so Romo was being Romo again when he got hurt. After that nobody cared about the running game because the QBs were so bad.

exactly, but also if they had signed murray it would have changed the whole course of events which means the play Tony got hurt would have never happened.
Even JG and Romo wanted to sign Murray and just use the same offense the 2015 season, and it would have worked and maybe even better.
Not signing murray threw a wrench in the wheel, not that murray was all that great, it just forced them to change the offense after murray left.

 

[DandyDon52]

The Jones family has been playing with house money ever since the early 90s. They do what they want to do when they want to do it. You can do that when you are the owner. Having said that...if they want to win a Super Bowl...THIS year....although there are no guarantees in life...the BEST chance for them to do that THIS year...is with Elliot. It is too late to decide you can do it differently. But if a TRUE GM was running this team...we would not be in this predicament. A GM shapes the front office, coaching staff, player personnel, to his/her philosophical approach to winning football games etc....and this entire operation is built to succeed with a workhorse RB. You have one. There is not another one laying around on the couch or buried on some other teams depth chart. This is the bed you made. Now you have to lie in it...or sleep on the floor!

Can we win games without Zeke? Sure. But you are not hoisting Lombardi without him. Heck you might not even host the Lombardi with him. And if you don't...I doubt HE will be the reason you don't. The man donning the headset in Dallas will never win 3 or 4 straight games in the postseason....but that is a different topic for another day.

Ok I agree with all that.
I dont think with or without,E they will get to , or win a SB.
Do you really think JG can beat Bellichek, or KC in the SB ??????? It just wont happen.
Dallas only chance would be for some other afc team to get to the SB and then play a bad game for JG to win one.
Also guy like JG and even the current dallas players, wont win the first appearance in a SB , if they got to 2 in a row, or close together they might
have a shot in the 2nd appearance.
We are talking about a team and a HC that has never got past the div round!
JG is 2-3 in playoffs, and if you add in when he was OC and asst HC, he was 1-2 which makes 3-5.
Now add in the 3 win and your in games from the 8-8 years, 0-3 and he is 2-6 as a HC and 3-8 total.

Now this is just IMO, but the E and Dak stuff, and other issues matter, but the main issue for years , since 2007 has been JG.
He is clearly not ready for prime time aka the playoffs, never has been, and may never be ready.
As OC his offense scored 17 in 2007 div loss, and only 3 points in 2009 div loss.
With linehan they scored more but it wasnt enough.
Jerry keeps getting rid of players and other coaching, but not the one guy who should have been gone back in 2007 or 2009.
So sign dont sign, it probably wont matter in regards to Nfc champ game or SB.

 

[Whirlwin]

He was great when he needed to be, although he wasn't good enough to win SBMVP. Wait..........

Who else were they going to give it to. Get a clue please

 

[Big_D]

BS, Dez wasn't in his prime and was hurt. Dak would have won more than one game. Not sure why you guys can't say Aikman was terrible, that's a fact.

If only they won a few more games and drafted 15th. The team would've been so much better off.

 

[birdwells1]

Who else were they going to give it to. Get a clue please

They gave it to the best player on the field that day.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I remember it fine. I like Dak but thinking Dak would have done anything with that team isn't helping your case. Troy was a #1 draft pick and couldn't do anything with that team. Dak had trouble last year without a #1 WR. That team had nobody. Laughingstock of the league. Dak would have never been heard from again if he was on that team. Teams back then could actually hit a QB.I can imagine what would have happened to him in those Bounty Bowl games. That 4-12 team of 2015 was a great team compared to that.

You think Dak is soft? Haha