Kellen Moore and his pedigree

[Stash]

How exactly do we offer a deal to McCoy when he didn't even hit the market or come in for a visit?

During the legal tampering period prior to the start of free agency, when teams and agents are allowed to talk contracts. Are you unaware of this?

Okay though, I get it...your idea of an "upgrade" is a QB with a career 7-18 record that has been a bust in this league (his last start was a game where he threw two interceptions and got shut out) and a QB that hasn't thrown a meaningful pass in 4 years. But hey, McCoy did look pretty good against an awful Indy defense.

What's Kellen Moore's record? How many wins does he have? But hey, he did throw for 400+ yards against a prevent defense in a game that was over after the first half...

If that's the only "upgrades" you have, you have further validated my point that the backup QB position in the NFL is one of the most shallow positions in sports.

You keep thinking that. Again, the only person you get to fool with this nonsense is yourself.

 

[Stash]

Didn't McCoy resign with Washington prior to the start of FA this year?

Hours before it officially started. But not before the league's allowed time period for other teams to talk with him and his agent. If Dallas made a viable offer, they could have signed him. They didn't. But it's not because they never had the opportunity.

 

[Stash]

Didn't realize McCoy's contract was this much...

"Colt McCoy signed a 3 year, $9,000,000 contract with the Washington Commanders."

It's a lot smaller than it looks at first glance:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-Commanders/colt-mccoy/

Especially when you consider Dallas paid Kyle Orton $10.5 million to lose the only game he ever started.

http://overthecap.com/player/kyle-orton/639/

 

[robjay04]

Hours before it officially started. But not before the league's allowed time period for other teams to talk with him and his agent. If Dallas made a viable offer, they could have signed him. They didn't. But it's not because they never had the opportunity.

The "legal tampering" consists of agent/team conversations. The players are not involved. Colt McCoy's contract is not even that impressive at all, it looks good at 3/9 but the Skins could get cap relief and cut him after this year. If the Cowboys or any other team wanted the player, I am sure they could've matched it. They didn't because Colt McCoy is not a good NFL football player but he is a pretty loyal guy, there have been articles about how loyal he is to the Skins. After he did look okay as a starter, he resigned with the Skins to be what was assumed to be a 3rd string spot.

I don't think Kellen Moore is an all star, I don't think he is a future starter on this team. I do think he could run the offense for a week or two if Romo goes down as long as he still had the team around him. If Romo misses more than 2-3 games, it does't matter who the QB is...Hoyer, Moore, Prescott or McCoy...we are doomed. None of these QB's have proven they can win in the NFL on a consistent basis---and QBs that have proven they can win on a consistent basis don't sign to be a backup behind a franchise QB. I also don't think it's fair to judge him, good or bad, based on his performance last year. He had a team that phoned it in for the season, several players on IR and a front office that was probably rooting for a loss. He made some plays and some mistakes...that is to be expected for a player, regardless of his pedigree, playing his first NFL snaps.

 

[DandyDon52]

It's a lot smaller than it looks at first glance:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-Commanders/colt-mccoy/

Especially when you consider Dallas paid Kyle Orton $10.5 million to lose the only game he ever started.

http://overthecap.com/player/kyle-orton/639/

lol Kyle was a smart dude, 10 mil for one game, then retire !

 

[DandyDon52]

The "legal tampering" consists of agent/team conversations. The players are not involved. Colt McCoy's contract is not even that impressive at all, it looks good at 3/9 but the Skins could get cap relief and cut him after this year. If the Cowboys or any other team wanted the player, I am sure they could've matched it. They didn't because Colt McCoy is not a good NFL football player but he is a pretty loyal guy, there have been articles about how loyal he is to the Skins. After he did look okay as a starter, he resigned with the Skins to be what was assumed to be a 3rd string spot.

I don't think Kellen Moore is an all star, I don't think he is a future starter on this team. I do think he could run the offense for a week or two if Romo goes down as long as he still had the team around him. If Romo misses more than 2-3 games, it does't matter who the QB is...Hoyer, Moore, Prescott or McCoy...we are doomed. None of these QB's have proven they can win in the NFL on a consistent basis---and QBs that have proven they can win on a consistent basis don't sign to be a backup behind a franchise QB. I also don't think it's fair to judge him, good or bad, based on his performance last year. He had a team that phoned it in for the season, several players on IR and a front office that was probably rooting for a loss. He made some plays and some mistakes...that is to be expected for a player, regardless of his pedigree, playing his first NFL snaps.

good post robjay, that is how I see it.
By the time Kellen got in dallas was like a team that had nothing to play for.
Plus if he gets coached up and reps as the official # 2 he should be able to do ok.

 

[Stash]

The "legal tampering" consists of agent/team conversations. The players are not involved. Colt McCoy's contract is not even that impressive at all, it looks good at 3/9 but the Skins could get cap relief and cut him after this year. If the Cowboys or any other team wanted the player, I am sure they could've matched it. They didn't because Colt McCoy is not a good NFL football player but he is a pretty loyal guy, there have been articles about how loyal he is to the Skins. After he did look okay as a starter, he resigned with the Skins to be what was assumed to be a 3rd string spot.

Who do you think the agent takes the offer to? Who does the agent work for? This isn't really that hard to figure out. But at least you admit the Cowboys could have signed him if they'd wanted to and been willing to pay him.

Maybe they didn't because, as has been proven for 10 years plus, the Cowboys suck at choosing backup quarterback candidates?

I don't think Kellen Moore is an all star, I don't think he is a future starter on this team. I do think he could run the offense for a week or two if Romo goes down as long as he still had the team around him. If Romo misses more than 2-3 games, it does't matter who the QB is...Hoyer, Moore, Prescott or McCoy...we are doomed. None of these QB's have proven they can win in the NFL on a consistent basis---and QBs that have proven they can win on a consistent basis don't sign to be a backup behind a franchise QB.

I'll admit that if Romo goes down, this team's season likely goes with him. But the backup quarterback spot is about minimizing the drop off and putting someone out there who gives you the best chance to manage a win. Those other names provide a better chance to win that Moore does. Not only is he terribly limited physically, but he trust the ball over way too much to give the team a chance for success.

I also don't think it's fair to judge him, good or bad, based on his performance last year. He had a team that phoned it in for the season, several players on IR and a front office that was probably rooting for a loss. He made some plays and some mistakes...that is to be expected for a player, regardless of his pedigree, playing his first NFL snaps.

Again, excuses. You're willing to point anywhere and everywhere, from blaming other players to play to lose conspiracy theories. Maybe the fact is that he's just not good enough?

 

[Stash]

lol Kyle was a smart dude, 10 mil for one game, then retire !

And then get paid $5 million from Buffalo on top of it! The only guy who's been able to steal more money in this league is Sam Bradford!

 

[lostar2009]

If you can't evade the blitz or make them pay by beating them deep, they should blitz you all game

It doesn't matter if he can make some of the throws, he can't make the ones that keep Defenses honest

I doubt Romo will be able to always evade a house blitz. Moore did what he could sometimes they got to him.

 

[Nightman]

Signing FAs isn't the only way to get a back-up except when you ignore the position for 10 years.

Maybe Colt McCoy could have been drafted or Osweiler or Bryce Petty or McCarron or Murray or Glennon or Foles or Cousins

Plus you are allowed to make trades with other teams

Throwing up your hands and saying "we tried" is not a great strategy

 

[Denim Chicken]

Would you guys like Josh Mccown over Moore?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Right you are, sir. Take the top players off any offense in this league and bad stuff happens.

All I know is, in 2015 we had Matt Cassel, Darren McFadden, and Terrance Williams carrying the offense. This year it's Tony Romo, Ezekiel Elliott, and Dez Bryant. I am stoked for this reason alone.

damn, just reading the first sentence gives me the runs

 

[DandyDon52]

And then get paid $5 million from Buffalo on top of it! The only guy who's been able to steal more money in this league is Sam Bradford!

Well he did earn the money in Buffalo, he was out there playing each week once he was made starter.
He may have been planning on another sideline stint though.

 

[tecolote]

Kellen Moore with a running game featuring Zeke is better than anyone else out there with the same running game.
Nobody was winning ball games last year with this team, not even Romo.
We got a gift the first week, beat a horrible team in Philly the second week and then got destroyed by Carolina on thanksgiving with Romo. Romo is not the savior of our team. The running game is and helps Romo out more than anyone. Moore will be just fine if needed for a game or two.

What? Romo was 3-1 last year. In the last 2 seasons the Cowboys are 15-4 with Romo and 1-12 without. Of course Tony is the most important player on this team. By Far. He is the franchise right now.

 

[Bullflop]

Despite what Jerry has been saying about Kellen Moore being the backup this year, I'm inclined to believe there's a good chance that if Dak Prescott demonstrates production that looks to be more effective than Moore's this year, he'll become our new backup QB in the process.