Kellen Moore listed as No. 2 quarterback

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Rush showed far more than DJacks, Kaiser.

He did, for sure. But the point remains, looking good in the Preseason doesn't prove a guy can play in the regular season or Jackson would be on somebody's roster right now.
 

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Kai, with respect, Moore most certainly could lose a game for us. Do we just have him throw screens, small slants, and checkdowns? Couldn't Rush do the same? Even then it's iffy. He's horrible. Just horrible.

Sure, I absolutely know your position and respect it. But I disagree, and I think the coaches clearly agree with my opinion because Moore is on the roster (for now).
 

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He did, for sure. But the point remains, looking good in the Preseason doesn't prove a guy can play in the regular season or Jackson would be on somebody's roster right now.
Rush didn't look "good", he looked exceptional. Up to his last outing.

Moore is a scrub, Kaiser.
 

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Sure, I absolutely know your position and respect it. But I disagree, and I think the coaches clearly agree with my opinion because Moore is on the roster (for now).
And I'm perplexed by it all.
 

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I assume you're talking about Rush "crushing" opponents in the preseason? If so, please keep in mind he was crushing defenses start with players who are no longer on any roster, anywhere. He received the vast majority of his playing time against the opposition's 3rd and 4th stringers.
And how did Moore fare against those very same opponents? This isn't a difficult concept.. Moore can't play, that's all this is about.
 

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Here's the pecking order:

1. Dak Prescott is the starting quarterback
2. Tony Romo is the No. 2 QB if Dak suffers a season-ending injury
3. Kellen Moore is the No. 2 QB if Dak gets hurt during a game or misses a game or two
4. Cooper Rush is the No. 3 QB, who would quickly be groomed for No. 2 if Dak is out for an extended period, but not the season.
5. It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again
 

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And how did Moore fare against those very same opponents? This isn't a difficult concept.. Moore can't play, that's all this is about.

I still disagree. Moore has some game experience, both regular season and preseason, against starting level defenses. More to the point, however, is my desire to protect Rush until he is ready to handle an NFL defense. If there is another veteran available who has knowledge of Linehan's offense, then I am all for bringing him in. Under no circumstances am I am advocating the idea of more as the "next man up" should Dak go down for an extended period of time. Rather, or should be thought of as a veterans who knows the offense and can't finish a game – a single game – if Prescott goes down.
 

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Dak started the first two preseason games. Romo started the 3rd game, and Dak started the other three. He got in a bunch of snaps against starting defenses.
 

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No, the "crushed" refers to his performance against Moore's.

Crushed.

I agree with that, but I am not looking at this as a "Moore vs. Rush" scenario. Rather, it's two separate concepts. One is protecting Rush's long-term development. The other is securing a veteran backup who has some knowledge of Linehan's system, and has been exposed to NFL defenses to some degree.

Personally, Moore wouldn't be my first choice. Luke McCown would be my preference, but he evidently hasn't recovered from the shoulder injury that hampered him in camp. In fact, he'd be my choice for a longer term backup if the need were to arise. Brandon Weeden and Matt Cassel are out there, but we've been there and done that. After those two, I can't think of anyone else with experience in this system to fill the job. Like I said, not my choice but I understand the thinking on the part of the staff. I would bet good money that the Cowboys aren't the only team that would take that kind of a step to shelter a rookie FA QB. Not saying another team would sign Moore, but that they'd find another veteran to fill the role for the purpose of protecting the rookie.

I'm not in favor of Kellen mooore as the backup, but I understand the reasoning. I'm am, however, on board with taking any and all precautions to shelter Cooper Rush until he's ready to handle an NFL defense. If one comes with the other, then I can live with it until there's someone else available.
 

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Why not sign one now then?

Who's available? Brandon Weeden and matt Cassel have experience in Linehan's offense, but are they any better options than Moore? I personally would take either over Moore, by the way, but I doubt you'll find anyone who really wants either of them back.
 

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I think this assumes than one agrees with having to "protect Rush" at all. I don't. They couldn't "protect" Dak, but instead made adjustments to gameplan and playbook. I'd want them to do that same thing for Rush.



As I've said, I think you proceed from a false assumption.

And Stash, you're avoiding my question. I did not believe it's a false assumption that this coaching staff is going to protect Rush. I think they've demonstrated that. Therefore, any scenario you want to introduce has to take that into consideration.

So I'll rephrase the question...who is the best available veteran backup who also has experience in Linehan's offense? Weeden? Cassel? Dan Orlowsky (if he's even available)? Who???
 

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I think Rush has it and will be a good player. But everyone said that about RB Darius Jackson also, so the team hedging its bets with Moore is understandable.

Oh, I agree. My reservations about Rush has nothing to do with his abilities. There is just so much more to being an NFL QB than being able to make the throws. I would just want to give him the "Tony Romo" treatment until he's ready in all aspects.
 
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