Kellen Moore listed as No. 2 quarterback

[Kaiser]

Rush is also a four year starter, that counts for something too.

Central Michigan is as close to the SEC as a razor scooter is to a Lear Jet.

 

[Stash]

Its the perfect analogy, whether you accept it or not.

Tell yourself that, nobody agrees with you.

Show me the list of rookie QBs that played well as rookies and I'll show you Dak Prescott.

With this team, with this staff, in this system. The same conditions Rush would have helping him too.

Show me the list of rookie QBs that played poorly as rookies and I'll show you a very long list.

Not here. Not with this team.

Show me the list of rookie QBs that played as rookies and had it destroy their career and I'll show you a shorter list lead by guys like David Carr.

David Carr, playing on an expansion team with no talent and no line. Do you really think that lowly of this current Cowboys team?

Their conditions are absolutely nothing like those that Rush would have. His are like those that Dak had.

 

[Stash]

Central Michigan is as close to the SEC as a razor scooter is to a Lear Jet.

4 years starting experience. It matters.

 

[Kaiser]

Tell yourself that, nobody agrees with you.

Did you hear that from the same strip mall psychic that told you about the contract offers NFL GM's were making?

 

[Kaiser]

4 years starting experience. It matters.

That certainly explains his draft position in the first round and massive signing bonus of...... zero dollars.

 

[Stash]

Did you hear that from the same strip mall psychic that told you about the contract offers NFL GM's were making?

Don't take my word for it. Ask. Nobody's agreeing with you whatsoever. You're on an island Gilligan.

 

[Stash]

That certainly explains his draft position in the first round and massive signing bonus of...... zero dollars.

How much did your boy Kellen Moore get? If that's where you now want to run to determine "worth".

 

[Kaiser]

How much did your boy Kellen Moore get? If that's where you now want to run to determine "worth".

Did the Strip Mall Psychic tell you that someone wanted Moore to play as a rookie? Because no one on this board has ever said that.

And in case you haven't figured out how deep you have gone down this rabbit hole, Moore got a $20,000 UDFA bonus and was the four year college starter that you are saying "counts for something".

 

[Stash]

Did the Strip Mall Psychic tell you that someone wanted Moore to play as a rookie? Because no one on this board has ever said that.

And in case you haven't figured out how deep you have gone down this rabbit hole, Moore got a $20,000 UDFA bonus and was the four year college starter that you are saying "counts for something".

That's great that Moore was also a four year starter. It undoubtedly benefitted him, like it does Rush. But all the experience in the world won't give him the physical ability necessary to play in the NFL. There's the difference between the two.

And $20,000? Wow! Rush had to settle for just a spot on the roster.

 

[rpntex]

Good gosh, dude.

Dallas has a promising young lad in Cooper Rush. They aren't going to expose a player with potential WHO MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO MONEY to free agency. Any team could stash that on their roster with no risk whatsoever.

Meanwhile, Kellen Moore is a run-of-the-mill career backup guy, just like Jason Garrett was or countless other guys. He's smart, and he knows Linehan's offense frontward and backward. No team wants to replace what they have with another guy who doesn't know their system. Teaching a QB a system is a long process, even for veterans.

It's not a surprise nobody signed Moore.

And what I don't understand is why nobody sees that this is just a temporary situation until Rush is ready to run a real NFL offense in a real game. He's never read a defense in his life.

Ding! Ding! Ding! ... we have a winner!

Actually, I have been posting about this particular thought process for the past four weeks on this board. I have said all along – at least since the Colts game - that this is likely the way the coaching staff was thinking. Kellen Moore is nothing but a stopgap, emergency, solution until the coaching staff is comfortable putting Cooper Rush on the field. Whether or not we as fans agree with that particular thought process is irrelevant. It still makes a lot of sense when you think of it in that regard.

 

[rpntex]

Even with Dak last year, circumstances force their hand. They did everything possible to AVOID playing Dak but in the end had no choice. I agree 100% this time next Rush is likely our backup .......with a year under his belt, no question.

Great post… I would add one thing. The comparisons to Prescott are not realistic. Dak got a lot of preseason snaps against starting level defenses. No doubt this coaching staff took that into account when considering the situation. As good as Rush played, he still did it all against players, the majority of whom are no longer on rosters around the league…3rd and 4th teamers.

 

[rpntex]

I'm disappointed because this team can't see what everyone else in the world can.

Kellen Moore is incapable of playing NFL football.

I'm embarrassed for this team.

Serious question here, because I honestly don't know the answer... assuming the Cowboys main objective (regarding Rush) is to protect him from being thrown to the wolves before he is ready to handle them. What veteran quarterbacks are available who (a) know the Cowboys offense, and (b) have the experience to make the staff feel comfortable with having to play him in an emergency scenario early in the season?

Moore is the only name I could think of. True, he can only execute about 50% of the office due to his physical limitations, but at this time, that would be more than any other veterans out there to be signed. Even if they brought in someone like Hoyer, it might be three weeks before the staff feels comfortable with his knowledge of the offense. That's why I firmly believe that Kellen Moore is a "finish out one game" emergency solution.

 

[xwalker]

Here's the pecking order:

1. Dak Prescott is the starting quarterback
2. Tony Romo is the No. 2 QB if Dak suffers a season-ending injury
3. Kellen Moore is the No. 2 QB if Dak gets hurt during a game or misses a game or two
4. Cooper Rush is the No. 3 QB, who would quickly be groomed for No. 2 if Dak is out for an extended period, but not the season.

Romo is the lead NFL analyst for CBS.

He is NOT returning to the Cowboys.

 

[erod]

That's great that Moore was also a four year starter. It undoubtedly benefitted him, like it does Rush. But all the experience in the world won't give him the physical ability necessary to play in the NFL. There's the difference between the two.

And $20,000? Wow! Rush had to settle for just a spot on the roster.

Moore not only started four years, he is also the all-time winningest QB in college football history.

 

[erod]

Romo is the lead NFL analyst for CBS.

He is NOT returning to the Cowboys.

Stephen Jones and a long list of football folks in the know disagree with you.

Dak is a sturdy, young lad, so this won't come to pass anyway.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Moore not only started four years, he is also the all-time winningest QB in college football history.

So.

 

[erod]

So.

Agree, but that was the road stash was going down with Rush. He was pointing out his four years as a starter in college.

 

[rpntex]

The homer part is directed at those who consistently make excuses for the front office and coaches. Doesn't matter what they do, it's the right call........... why? Because they are the coaches and FO. That's bizarre.

Moore as the #2 is a silly move. It just is. Trying to justify it that he knows more of the playbook is just excuse making for the front office. He can't properly operate under a large chunk of the playbook because he can't make NFL throws. We all know what we are going to get if Moore has to play. A crap ton of dump offs and screens and maybe some floaters down the field if he does throw the ball more than 10 yards that will make us all sweat bullets waiting for a pick.

This is simply NFL security blanket thinking 101. Teams too often rely on this concept of veteran leadership in key positions and justify playing a person of inferior talent by placing more value on this nebulous concept of veteran presence that somehow will overcome the lack of talent. The Cowboys aren't the only team to do it.

Moore should not be a part of this team. He's an inferior player. But unfortunately, Linehan and Garrett are sipping from the veteran presence chalice.

I don't consider myself a homer at all, and I'm not making excuses for the staff or the front office. I do, however, understand the thought process that goes behind keeping a player like Moore as the back up early on, as well as the thought process that goes behind not wanting to push a rookie QB to do too much before he's ready. these two things don't have to be related, but in this instance, they are.

The one and only item that can be considered an advantage for Kellen Moore is his knowledge and understanding of the Dallas offense. Despite his physical limitations, that has to count for something. He may not be able to do anything more than operate a "security blanket" offense, but I can foresee a scenario early in the season where that offense would be The best approach. As I have posted many times in this thread, we're not talking about anything close to resembling "long-term". In fact, I don't think we're talking about anything more than finishing up a single game If Dak gets hurt.

 

[rpntex]

I don't get this. So he's so expendable for a guy coming off suspension or IR................... but he's gotta be the #2 QB over Rush?

Wut?

Simple… By the time someone comes off suspension or IR, Rush Will have had several weeks of watching what goes in to game with preparation, including what Dak does to prepare, as well as several more weeks of reps. It's possible that by that time the staff will feel more comfortable with Rush on the field than they do right now.

 

[rpntex]

How many of them have been crushed by their third-string competition?

Crushed!

I assume you're talking about Rush "crushing" opponents in the preseason? If so, please keep in mind he was crushing defenses start with players who are no longer on any roster, anywhere. He received the vast majority of his playing time against the opposition's 3rd and 4th stringers.