Kellen Moore listed as No. 2 quarterback

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To say that Rush should be protected (and not be the #2 QB because if it) is really flawed logic. Dak was thrown directly into the fire last year and he did well. Rush has performed similarly.

Part of the reason young QBs are ruined by playing too soon is that they are usually playing behind a ****ty OL. We don't have that problem so there is no reason not to give a young QB playing time if he gives you the best chance to win.

Big difference in circumstances. Dak played a lot in the preseason against other teams starters. By the time the regular season rolls around, you coaching staff had a reason to feel comfortable with how he would do against starters in the regular season. Rush has yet to take a single snap against a starter in the NFL, either in the preseason, or regular season. Comparing the two quarterbacks preseason performances is not really valid.
 

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Are people in this thread really defending Floaty Noodle? Seriously? Dude is stealing a roster spot.

You Moore supporters, can I get a cliffnotes of why?

You guys fighting the good fight, enjoy my LIKEapalooza.

I avoided this thread because it's asinine this guy has a spot on the 53 and didn't want to get mad. I figured some LIKES were do. Woot

(Idgit and Kai get likes because I love ya two :)
 

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Romo is the lead NFL analyst for CBS.

He is NOT returning to the Cowboys.

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It boggles my mind that this is still a thing. About as much as Moore being our number friggin 2
 

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Serious question here, because I honestly don't know the answer... assuming the Cowboys main objective (regarding Rush) is to protect him from being thrown to the wolves before he is ready to handle them. What veteran quarterbacks are available who (a) know the Cowboys offense, and (b) have the experience to make the staff feel comfortable with having to play him in an emergency scenario early in the season?

I think this assumes than one agrees with having to "protect Rush" at all. I don't. They couldn't "protect" Dak, but instead made adjustments to gameplan and playbook. I'd want them to do that same thing for Rush.

Moore is the only name I could think of. True, he can only execute about 50% of the office due to his physical limitations, but at this time, that would be more than any other veterans out there to be signed. Even if they brought in someone like Hoyer, it might be three weeks before the staff feels comfortable with his knowledge of the offense. That's why I firmly believe that Kellen Moore is a "finish out one game" emergency solution.

As I've said, I think you proceed from a false assumption.
 

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Are people in this thread really defending Floaty Noodle? Seriously? Dude is stealing a roster spot.

You Moore supporters, can I get a cliffnotes of why?

I'm not defending Moore as an NFL QB but I'm arguing against the people who say he couldn't play for a High School team.

The Cliffnotes for why he is on the roster is that we know he can drive the bus in the regular season and not lose a game by himself (like Weeden and Cassell did). We don't know that about Rush - yet. By midseason the coaches will probably feel Rush is ready and Moore will be gone, but the safety blanket reason is why he is on the 53 at this point.
 

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Rush has yet to take a single snap against a starter in the NFL, either in the preseason, or regular season. Comparing the two quarterbacks preseason performances is not really valid.

I think Rush has it and will be a good player. But everyone said that about RB Darius Jackson also, so the team hedging its bets with Moore is understandable.
 

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Moore not only started four years, he is also the all-time winningest QB in college football history.

Go figure, huh?

He could be the "winningest QB in college football history" and never win a single game at the NFL level.
 

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No, I don't think it's a mistake when you consider the depth of his realistic role on the team. In all likelihood, Moore is an "emergency" veteran QB...capable of finishing a game if Dak goes down. I don't, for one second, believe that Moore would automatically be named the starter in Dak's absence. If the situation calls for a new starter, I think you'll see Dallas sign another vet, just as when Parcells signed Vinny Testaverde. Moore is a relief pitcher, not the next man up in the starting rotation.

Why not sign one now then?
 

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If it was all about experience, Mark Sanchez would still be here. There's no reason Kellen Moore should be the number 2 qb other than he has some ins with the coaches. Cooper Rush clearly outplayed Moore and Moore is keeping someone else off the roster that could see the field, like a Rico Gathers. Moore should be on the coaching staff, not on the 53.
 

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I'm not defending Moore as an NFL QB but I'm arguing against the people who say he couldn't play for a High School team.

The Cliffnotes for why he is on the roster is that we know he can drive the bus in the regular season and not lose a game by himself (like Weeden and Cassell did). We don't know that about Rush - yet. By midseason the coaches will probably feel Rush is ready and Moore will be gone, but the safety blanket reason is why he is on the 53 at this point.
Kai, with respect, Moore most certainly could lose a game for us. Do we just have him throw screens, small slants, and checkdowns? Couldn't Rush do the same? Even then it's iffy. He's horrible. Just horrible.

I don't doubt he could play for a HS team (Jr. Varsity :)), but he has no business being a QB for the Dallas Cowboys, brother.

Moore's arm is garbage. Our team plays too quick, and we're trying to emphasize stretching the field, more so, now. He doesn't have the arm for this offense. If we were a defense-oriented team, perhaps, but we are an offense-oriented team. We need a QB, even backup, to have the potential to drive more than the bus. Our D, as of now, doesn't appear able to cover down for snafus made by Kellen Floaty, my brother. With respect, Kai
 

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Here's the pecking order:

1. Dak Prescott is the starting quarterback
2. Tony Romo is the No. 2 QB if Dak suffers a season-ending injury
3. Kellen Moore is the No. 2 QB if Dak gets hurt during a game or misses a game or two
4. Cooper Rush is the No. 3 QB, who would quickly be groomed for No. 2 if Dak is out for an extended period, but not the season.

Reports are that Romo has not been keeping in shape to play football. He is not playing ever again.
 

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I assume you're talking about Rush "crushing" opponents in the preseason? If so, please keep in mind he was crushing defenses start with players who are no longer on any roster, anywhere. He received the vast majority of his playing time against the opposition's 3rd and 4th stringers.

No, the "crushed" refers to his performance against Moore's.

Crushed.
 

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That certainly explains his draft position in the first round and massive signing bonus of...... zero dollars.

And then you compare this year's crop of QBs performance in the preseason games. They didn't start in the PS either.
 

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It boggles my mind that this is still a thing. About as much as Moore being our number friggin 2
Even if he didn't have the analyst job, he would not play this season without a lengthy period of time with a team in order to be prepared mentally and physically.

If there is ANY chance for him to return to the NFL, it would be in the offseason and then only if the analyst job goes wrong.

He is getting paids millions as an analyst. Multiply that by 10 years and it's more than he would make returning to the NFL.
 

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Agree, but that was the road stash was going down with Rush. He was pointing out his four years as a starter in college.

I think four years of staring is an advantage for a young quarterback.

But then, so is having the arm to throw a football.
 

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Big difference in circumstances. Dak played a lot in the preseason against other teams starters. By the time the regular season rolls around, you coaching staff had a reason to feel comfortable with how he would do against starters in the regular season. Rush has yet to take a single snap against a starter in the NFL, either in the preseason, or regular season. Comparing the two quarterbacks preseason performances is not really valid.

It's not as different as you're trying to make it. Romo got hurt in the 3rd of 4 preseason games, and Dak didn't play in the 4th one.

It's not as if he got a lot of work "against other team's starters" either.
 
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