Kellen Moore listed as No. 2 quarterback

[Tabascocat]

Nothing savvy about Sanchez at all. Weeden?

They are still vets who have been starters for full seasons. Moore has zero wins..........

 

[Idgit]

Lol no it doesnt, Rush outplayed Moore and that should be the only thing that matters. Moore couldnt even take advatage of vanilla defenses in preseason but yet he gives us a better at winning than Rush does if Dak goes down? Lmao yea right

What matters with Prescott in the lineup is the best way to develop Rush. The team obviously thinks being forced to play him in a real game with no practice reps could be too much for an undrafted rookie, and they wanted a buffer player who knows the offense.

Who would start with a full week to prepare as the starter could be a different question entirely. Hopefully, we don't get to find out the answer to that one.

 

[waving monkey]

Oh no, here we go with the Coach bashing!

of course

 

[Avery]

Not surprising to me. Not many rookies can step on the field. Hate him as you will, Moore knows the playbook better.

Rush will be #2 next year; he just needs time and reps in practice.

 

[waving monkey]

A decision like this is the reason why I want Jim Harbaugh to coach this team next year.

prepare to be disappointed

 

[aikemirv]

They are still vets who have been starters for full seasons. Moore has zero wins..........

And I am not saying Moore is better than Rush but I KNOW that he knows a lot more. I also know that if I am the Coach and someone is going to flounder and struggle and get beat up on the field, it is not going to be my project/prodigy that I found and that looks like he could have a promising future if I don't destroy him!

 

[TheCount]

You don't truly realize how terrible your backup situation is till he's outplay d by a undrafted rookie, cut, not a single team claims or attempts to sign him, resigned and automatically promoted back to #2.

All because ONE guy on the staff has a crush on him.

It's decisions and logic like this that makes you wonder not just who else is on this roster for love and not for ability.

But also who we've let go for lack of love and not because of lack of ability.

 

[batman36]

If you think about it, the Cowboys have always been a team that's forced to make changes that are later deemed brilliant.

Dave 5-11 Campo .. Never understood the logic .. one 5-11 season, okay maybe .. a second one? time to look elsewhere. a third one? did they expect banging their head against the wall would work the third time?

Wade Phillips 1-7 start to the season .. it took a 1-7 record and an embarrassing loss on national TV for the Cowboys to make this change.

Romo? They had him sit on the bench for years. Even then, they waited too long into the season before they finally turned the team over to him.

Prescott? He's only our franchise quarterback because Romo and Moore were injured last year and even then, the plan well into the season was to still bring back Romo until Prescott kept winning making it hard for them to justify it. If Moore had not been injured, we would have been sitting at 0-8 and even then they would have turned the team back over to Romo when he returned.

Cooper Rush? He had to play almost perfect football just to make the roster and even then, they probably still thought about trying to sneak him on the practice squad.

Our front office and coaching staff get a lot of accolades, but the reality is that beyond the scouts, there's been very little unforced brilliance from the front office and coaching staff. I am not bashing them in general. I'm just saying that maybe they might want to be a little more open minded to changes and new players. We had a great team in 2014 with Romo and another one last year with Prescott, and we still haven't even made it to the NFC Championship game this century.

Yes, and I hope that attitude isn't as pervasive, as it relates to building the defense. Good coaching only goes so far...smart, talented players are needed as well.

 

[Kaiser]

Our front office and coaching staff get a lot of accolades, but the reality is that beyond the scouts, there's been very little unforced brilliance from the front office and coaching staff. I am not bashing them in general. I'm just saying that maybe they might want to be a little more open minded to changes and new players. We had a great team in 2014 with Romo and another one last year with Prescott, and we still haven't even made it to the NFC Championship game this century.

I don't get the criticism. Dave Campo left 15 years ago and even then, Campo went to bed dreaming about having assistants like LInehan and Wade Wilson with Will McClay in the front office.

I judge the current group by their current tenure. I don't criticise them for the Dak Prescott situation last year because there have been literally thousands of rookie QBs in the NFL and only one that played at the level Dak did as a 4th round rookie.

Dak's first preseason game was a revelation, but prior to that there was no one on Earth but Dak himself that thought he would have a rookie season like that. If someone had started a thread in July 2016 saying the Cowboys should bench an All Pro in Tony Romo to play a 4th round draft choice, every poster here would have gone batpoop crazy - and they would have been right to do so.

 

[Nirvana]

I bet Cooper had to be "Eli Manning" in practices with the scout team. That's as close as he'll come to this game as he's sure to be inactive.

 

[Kaiser]

You don't truly realize how terrible your backup situation is till he's outplay d by a undrafted rookie, cut, not a single team claims or attempts to sign him, resigned and automatically promoted back to #2.

Moore was on the street for one day and even fans on this board knew he was going to resign with the Cowboys. Teams had already set their QB plans, its not accurate to say that Moore was on the street begging for a roster spot with no takers.

 

[diefree666]

Moore was on the street for one day and even fans on this board knew he was going to resign with the Cowboys. Teams had already set their QB plans, its not accurate to say that Moore was on the street begging for a roster spot with no takers.

BUT it is telling that the several teams with QB problems did not even take a sniff.

 

[Jake]

A decision like this is the reason why I want Jim Harbaugh to coach this team next year.

 

[vicjagger]

Floaty be like:

 

[Kaiser]

BUT it is telling that the several teams with QB problems did not even take a sniff.

That's my point, everyone knew he was coming back to Dallas and he was off the roster for 24 hours. Why would they and how would anyone here know what phone calls were made or not made?

And no one, including the Cowboys, see Moore as a starter. They don't see him a backup that will come in an win games. They see him as a backup that can come in and "not lose", which is something Rush hasn't proven yet and half the backup QBs in the league haven't either.

 

[EST_1986]

 

[TheHerd]

That's my point, everyone knew he was coming back to Dallas and he was off the roster for 24 hours. Why would they and how would anyone here know what phone calls were made or not made?

And no one, including the Cowboys, see Moore as a starter. They don't see him a backup that will come in an win games. They see him as a backup that can come in and "not lose", which is something Rush hasn't proven yet and half the backup QBs in the league haven't either.

If our coaches really believe this is true, they should all be fired. Of course he would lose. He has proven only to lose. And did you watch any of the preseason to see how much he's improving over the years? And I don't accept all that 400 yard crap against a very average Wash team a few years ago, which he also lost, btw. He has appeared in three games in his career, all for us, and we lost every one of those games.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You don't say? I think we can all agree that nobody saw this coming.

He's the Nick Hayden of the offense. Congratulations.

 

[Reality]

I don't get the criticism. Dave Campo left 15 years ago and even then, Campo went to bed dreaming about having assistants like LInehan and Wade Wilson with Will McClay in the front office.

I judge the current group by their current tenure. I don't criticise them for the Dak Prescott situation last year because there have been literally thousands of rookie QBs in the NFL and only one that played at the level Dak did as a 4th round rookie.

Dak's first preseason game was a revelation, but prior to that there was no one on Earth but Dak himself that thought he would have a rookie season like that. If someone had started a thread in July 2016 saying the Cowboys should bench an All Pro in Tony Romo to play a 4th round draft choice, every poster here would have gone batpoop crazy - and they would have been right to do so.

I think you are missing the point of what I was saying. I was not saying that everyone else saw something they didn't. I'm saying that almost all of the "brilliant" moves beyond the scouting department have been forced upon them rather than them actually seeing the potential for something special.

I am saying that the Cowboys, even before Garrett, have been very stuck in their ways when it comes to players, and for the most part, that's a good philosophy to have. However, it has now been 22 years since the Cowboys made it to a Super Bowl so that in itself would stand to reason that their formula for success has been flawed. They have fielded good teams as I mentioned .. the 2014 and 2016 teams were really good teams, but their methods and system just cannot seem to get them over the hump.

I am not calling for the firing of anyone or even the benching of anyone. I am just saying that maybe, just maybe, they should keep their minds open a little when potential shows itself. As great as Rush played in preseason, there's no way I think he would have done what Prescott did last year.

But as I posted a while back, if we lose Prescott for the season and Romo likely says "No thank you!" to the inevitable "Please come back!" request, Moore is not winning anything for us. If Prescott gets hurt for just one game, Moore's not winning anything for us. The fact they released Moore because they knew nobody wanted him while keeping Rush because they knew several teams would likely claim him speaks volumes.

I keep hearing how there's no way Rush can deal with the Giants' defense like Moore can? Really? Moore cannot even deal with the Giants' defense. Heck, even Prescott didn't beat the Giants last year and he had an amazing year.

All of these excuses and flawed logic they use are old .. really really old. Maybe they worked in the 1990s back .. you know .. way back when they used to win Super Bowls, but they don't work now.

They didn't know what they had in Prescott until they were forced to throw him out there. I'm just saying, why not use that experience on other players every so often when they show flashes of potential? If Prescott were to get hurt against the Giants, throw Rush out there and see what he can do. If he bombs or plays terrible, then work with him some more. If he shows no improvement after a few more games (even if that is over 2-4 years time), at least they will know.

We know what we have in Moore. We have a guy that no one wants. A guy that has a very weak arm. A guy that will not win you NFL games unless you spot him a lot of points and run the ball.

The way I look at it, if we lose Prescott, the odds of us winning a Super Bowl are slim, even with Rush, but it would sure be nice each week knowing there's a chance no matter how small it is.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Lol no it doesnt, Rush outplayed Moore and that should be the only thing that matters. Moore couldnt even take advatage of vanilla defenses in preseason but yet he gives us a better at winning than Rush does if Dak goes down? Lmao yea right

Yes, Rush gives us the best chance to win if Dak's not available for any reason. I can't believe they've made Moore the #2. He didn't earn it. Rush did.