Kellen Moore to Saints

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Wish him the best, never had a problem with him. Yes, his trick plays were kinda awkward (and the execution even worse) but overall he was ok as our OC.

And he has a ring now, so despite what people here say, some team would have offered him the HC job this year anyway.
 
Wish him the best, never had a problem with him. Yes, his trick plays were kinda awkward (and the execution even worse) but overall he was ok as our OC.

And he has a ring now, so despite what people here say, some team would have offered him the HC job this year anyway.
His Hulk package was pretty cool though!
 
I'm surprised I'm the first one posting this...

https://www.neworleanssaints.com/ne...rch-philadelphia-eagles-offensive-coordinator

Honestly, for various reasons of my own opinion, I don't think it's going to work out...
I don’t think it’s going to work out well either. Nothing against Kellen but he benefited from Roseman and Barkley more than anything.

It just goes to show you what a great GM can do for a franchise. We basically ran Moore out of town and celebrated when he left. Then he wins a Super Bowl and is a HC. If anything this should be a mirror held up to Jerry and Stephen to examine themselves.
 
I don’t think it’s going to work out well either. Nothing against Kellen but he benefited from Roseman and Barkley more than anything.

It just goes to show you what a great GM can do for a franchise. We basically ran Moore out of town and celebrated when he left. Then he wins a Super Bowl and is a HC. If anything this should be a mirror held up to Jerry and Stephen to examine themselves.
Hard to disagree on any of your points. And I like Kellen too.
"IF" he were to hit on a drafted QB, then maybe there could be something there.
But with all their cap money problems and the fact that I'm unsure of the type of staff he could hire I am somewhat skeptical right now.
And again, I like the guy.
Lotta things working against him though.
 
I get that there's only 32 head coaching opportunities, and most of the good ones don't open up, so most new HCs have to walk into a bad situation. But NO is definitely a bad situation. That job is toxic and set up to fail.

From an on-the-field football perspective, you're looking at a teardown. The Saints are $54M over the cap and have 5 wins to show for it. Derek Carr is your quarterback, he's making $40M and is worth maybe a quarter of that.

Head coaches on bad teams usually get 3 seasons to turn it around. Year 1 for Moore is inevitably going to be paying the cap piper and losing a lot of games, so he's starting off on a short leash.

From an organizational perspective, the Saints are a mess. They retained Mickey Loomis, who's never met a trade up he wouldn't take or a salary cap he wouldn't can-kick. Saints need to tear down, but Loomsi might not even let them tear down. KM doesn't get final say. And the Saints owner just jumped in and reportedly fired Dennis Allen over Loomis' wishes. A owner meddling with their FO and making football decisions... where have we seen that before. It isn't conducive to building a winner.

I'll be shocked if KM does build a winner in New Orleans. I think he goes 6-11 for a couple seasons, gets fired on Black Monday '26 or '27, and then returns to offensive coordinator work.
 
I get that there's only 32 head coaching opportunities, and most of the good ones don't open up. But the NO job is toxic and set up to fail.

From an on-the-field football perspective, you're looking at a teardown. The Saints are $54M over the cap and have 5 wins to show for it. Derek Carr is your quarterback, he's making $40M and is worth maybe a quarter of that.

Head coaches on bad teams usually get 3 seasons to turn it around. Year 1 for Moore is inevitably going to be paying the cap piper and losing a lot of games, so he's starting off on a short leash.

From an organizational perspective, the Saints are a mess. They retained Mickey Loomis, who's never met a trade up he wouldn't take or a salary cap can he wouldn't kick. Saints need to tear down, but Loomsi might not even let them tear down. KM doesn't get final say. And the Saints owner just jumped in and reportedly fired Dennis Allen over Loomis' wishes. A owner meddling with their FO and making football decisions... where have we seen that before. That kind of approach isn't conducive to building a winner.

I'll be shocked if KM does build a winner there. I think he goes 6-11 a couple times and then returns to offensive coordinator work.
Man, if you take out the word NO, Loomis, Saints and Moore, I would have thought you were describing the Cowboys.
 

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