Kelvin Banks at #12?

Hardline said:
Other than Georgia he dominated everyone that lined up against him. There's a reason many mocks have him in the top 10 or a little higher. He would be a day one plug and play starter.
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Maybe at OG.
 
Texas_Pete said:
Schotty wants the Cowboys to run the ball. If Kelvin Banks (UT LT) falls, do you take him at #12?

Scenario:

LT Banks
LG Smith
C Beebe
RG Robert Jones (?)
RT Guyton

Eagles front 7 still scares me. Get Terrence Steele outta there. I'm just saying.
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You guys have to be careful trying to throw away Terrance Steele. You have a rookie at LT and a 2nd year player who struggled at times last season. Steele can run block for sure, so the scheme should fit him.
 
kskboys said:
Possibly, we don't know that yet.
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Most of us already know. He has all the tools to do it. He did it against SEC DEs and DTs . I would have no problem putting him at guard but you wouldn't have to to maximize his skill set. He is fully capable of playing LT and at a high level .
 
The one big flaw on Kelvin Banks' scouting report is the Georgia game. If he missed that game and played the rest of the season, he'd be a top 5 pick.

Of course that Georgia game did happen, and we can't just wish that tape away. He had some bad reps against NFL speed, and when you look at other athletic traits - he doesn't have great length for an NFL tackle, he's a lunging kind of mover - it does raise questions if he can continue to handle speed rushers at the pro level.

I think Banks at tackle vs guard is the kind of case where two reasonable people can watch the same tape and disagree. I personally think he can make it at tackle, I'm trusting his whole 3-year body of work. And given that, I'd have zero problems taking him at 12.

For whatever it's worth, I'd have Membou a smidge over Banks as a tackle - there's no questions about his movement ability - and I think Will Campbell's a guard. Campbell had more pass rush losses than Banks, and they came in a worrying consistent way. Guys would take him deep outside on the edge and then bull rush him or jump back inside, because he couldn't land the first punch out in space.
 
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wouldn't hate it.
my preference at ot would be ohio st's josh simmons.
but wouldn't hate banks.
 
kskboys said:
No way would he be clear cut BPA. Not that there is such a thing.

BPA takes for granted that prospects are easily graded and separated. They are not.
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He’s currently ranked 14th on the consensus big board so he might be if we’re taking QBs and low value positions off the board.

Prospects usually are fairly easy graded and separated just not by our dumb team.
 
Hardline said:
Most of us already know. He has all the tools to do it. He did it against SEC DEs and DTs . I would have no problem putting him at guard but you wouldn't have to to maximize his skill set. He is fully capable of playing LT and at a high level .
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No, you don't know. Apparently you're not aware that a host of OL's played OLT in college but weren't good enough at the NFL level to stay at OLT. Acting like you know something you don't is weird.
 
cnuball21 said:
He’s currently ranked 14th on the consensus big board so he might be if we’re taking QBs and low value positions off the board.

Prospects usually are fairly easy graded and separated just not by our dumb team.
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No, they are not. It's very hard to grade prospects.

Who makes this "consensus" big board? I look at a lot of boards, and aside from a few players, they are all over the place. Draft is an art, not a science.
 
kskboys said:
No, you don't know. Apparently you're not aware that a host of OL's played OLT in college but weren't good enough at the NFL level to stay at OLT. Acting like you know something you don't is weird.
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You didn't debunk anything I said. I literally do know.
 
I like him and think he has upside but I see him as a guard.
 
kskboys said:
No, they are not. It's very hard to grade prospects.

Who makes this "consensus" big board? I look at a lot of boards, and aside from a few players, they are all over the place. Draft is an art, not a science.
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That’s the whole point…it aggregates data from all the boards you are looking at and then some and creates an average ranking to give us a good estimate of where a players value is.
 
cnuball21 said:
3 year starter at LT in the SEC, 2 sacks allowed in his last 1000+ snaps and a 90+ overall grade.

I don’t love OL in the first again but if he’s clear cut BPA wouldn’t hate it if we think he can stick at LT.
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Yeah no way he's getting drafted as a guard, he at one point before this season was rated top tackle in college football and #3 overall prospect. Scouts didn't like his run blocking but that was it. I bet he goes top ten so none of this matters. NFL loves drafting OT at the top of the draft.
 
Texas_Pete said:
Schotty wants the Cowboys to run the ball. If Kelvin Banks (UT LT) falls, do you take him at #12?

Scenario:

LT Banks
LG Smith
C Beebe
RG Robert Jones (?)
RT Guyton

Eagles front 7 still scares me. Get Terrence Steele outta there. I'm just saying.
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I would love to see that happen, but Jerry is not getting rid of Steele this year. he won't pay twice for the same position because he hates deadcap money...and he wants Guyton to have one more year before he makes a move.....I can see us get rid of steele next year
 
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