Kelvin Joseph over Jeremiah Owusu Koramoah

DasTex · Dec 4, 2021

lk8701 said:
He looks like a JAG. Another Chidobe Awuzie at best. JOK will be a Pro Bowl player. He would also allow the Cowboys to use Micah more as a pass rusher.

If he's another Cheeto, then it's a good draft pick.

rambo2 · Dec 4, 2021

CATCH17 said:
Joseph has gave us no reason to regret our selection yet.

In fact he’s a high upside player.

His speed is excellent. Fantastic on punt coverage.

rambo2 · Dec 4, 2021

lk8701 said:
He looks like a JAG. Another Chidobe Awuzie at best. JOK will be a Pro Bowl player. He would also allow the Cowboys to use Micah more as a pass rusher.

Since when do Jags run like Joesph?

BAT · Dec 5, 2021

MichiganCowboyFan said:
Joseph was arguably BPA though and had been for about 5-10+ picks. It's the baggage that made him fall. That LB on the Browns would have been nice too but you're choosing from a player with a history of pissing off coaches vs. a guy with an injury history and after the Jaylon Smith fiasco I think the Cowboys went with the right "dicey" pick.

Nah, JOK was the better player and his injury was minor quite unlike Jaylon Smith's.

JOK was AND is the better pick.

And Asante Samuel Jr. was the higher rated CORNER to boot and was also available.

TheMarathonContinues · Dec 5, 2021

lk8701 said:
He looks like a JAG. Another Chidobe Awuzie at best. JOK will be a Pro Bowl player. He would also allow the Cowboys to use Micah more as a pass rusher.

Chido is having a damn good year.

TheMarathonContinues · Dec 5, 2021

BAT said:
Nah, JOK was the better player and his injury was minor quite unlike Jaylon Smith's.

JOK was AND is the better pick.

And Asante Samuel Jr. was the higher rated CORNER to boot and was also available.

Asante Samuel wasn't a scheme fit.

TheMarathonContinues · Dec 5, 2021

In a year or two.....Joseph is either going to make a fool out of you or make your revisionist history based opinions look genius. Nothing new around here a lot of people didn't like the Parsons pick either.

BAT · Dec 5, 2021

rocyaice said:
Asante Samuel wasn't a scheme fit.

Best coaches fit schemes to their best players, not the other way around.

This was whole reason DQ learned to adjust his scheme so he can play multiple systems and move around personnel accordingly.

plasticman · Dec 5, 2021

Yeah, I don't understand the incompetence of the Cowboys personnel analysts. Why can't they get the next available guy who eventually becomes a HOFer in every single round?

They should at least get a good starter, I realize drafting All Pros in the 7th round can be problematic, I'm not unrealistic, just naive.

America's Cowboy · Dec 5, 2021

What has Joseph done this season other than missing most of the season due to injury and playing a little on Special Teams?

Joseph has contributed diddly this season so far.

Another costly 2nd round pick with little to show for once again for the Cowboys. This has been going on for almost 20 years when it comes to this franchise's 2nd round picks.

Oooh, but don't say anything because you will be called a hater...

America's Cowboy · Dec 5, 2021

Check out this article (link below) that came out today...and watch all of the videos showcasing Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah's outstanding performances this season for the Browns. He looks like another Dexter Coakley. Imagine how well his skills at LB would be helping out this Cowboys team this year?

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland...amoah-cleveland-browns-177251522/#177251522_1

Cowboys dropped the ball and made another costly and bad pick in the 2nd round once again. SMH

"Ohhh, we drafted for the future!" Yeah, how so if you don't have anything to build on during the present?

2nd round picks are supposed to be starters, not backups learning on the sidelines for the future. Frustrating how other teams understand this except for the Cowboys.

KeepinTime · Dec 5, 2021

Maverick84 said:
this is a family forum.

This is a Wendy’s, sir!

Zekeats · Dec 5, 2021

lk8701 said:
Another example of why you don't reach for positional need. JOK had a health issue which caused him to slip but it's relatively mild nothing like Jaylon Smith. I think he would have been an excellent scheme fit. LVE and Keanu Neal likely won't be back next season.

I woulda drafted Creed Humphrey or Azeez Ojulari in the 2nd and taken Paulson Adebo in the 3rd.

BAT · Dec 5, 2021

America's Cowboy said:
Check out this article (link below) that came out today...and watch all of the videos showcasing Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah's outstanding performances this season for the Browns. He looks like another Dexter Coakley. Imagine how well his skills at LB would be helping out this Cowboys team this year?

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland...amoah-cleveland-browns-177251522/#177251522_1

Cowboys dropped the ball and made another costly and bad pick in the 2nd round once again. SMH

"Ohhh, we drafted for the future!" Yeah, how so if you don't have anything to build on during the present?

2nd round picks are supposed to be starters, not backups learning on the sidelines for the future. Frustrating how other teams understand this except for the Cowboys.

Looks like a Thomas Davis clone.

Or a hybrid of Darren Woodson/Dexter Coakley for Cowboys only fans.

TheMarathonContinues · Dec 5, 2021

BAT said:
Best coaches fit schemes to their best players, not the other way around.

This was whole reason DQ learned to adjust his scheme so he can play multiple systems and move around personnel accordingly.

I agree. Best coaches fit schemes to their best players.....Samuel was not a player so why would you go out of your way to draft a guy who you didn't see as a fit lol?

stilltheguru · Dec 5, 2021

Zekeats said:
I woulda drafted Creed Humphrey or Azeez Ojulari in the 2nd and taken Paulson Adebo in the 3rd.

Saints moved up for Adebo. No guarantee we'd get him. Hindsight

CowboyRoy · Dec 5, 2021

lk8701 said:
Another example of why you don't reach for positional need. JOK had a health issue which caused him to slip but it's relatively mild nothing like Jaylon Smith. I think he would have been an excellent scheme fit. LVE and Keanu Neal likely won't be back next season.

Im not giving up on Joseph yet, but not a great start. More about his injuries then anything. LVE sucks.

Jarntt · Dec 5, 2021

MichiganCowboyFan said:
Joseph is a special teams baller, has balled out every time he's been asked to play corner this year in the regular season and even took an ejection to defend his teammates in the worst referreed regular season game in NFL history... I think Bossman is a keeper. I think he will be a stud CB2 across from Diggs very very soon. He is very fast, quick, talented and smart as a cornerback. Anthony Brown tries, but he's just not talented enough. Joseph is a baller, he will be a keeper and look like a fantastic pick very very soon.

I'm all for waiting to see what the kid has, but that seems to be a little bit of a stretch, no?

Techsass · Dec 5, 2021

AsthmaField said:
Not Risen… he’s always thinking of Cox.

Just his own

Qcard · Dec 5, 2021

CATCH17 said:
Joseph has gave us no reason to regret our selection yet.

In fact he’s a high upside player.

Kelvin Joseph has the biggest dog amongst DBs. I like Kelvin Joseph against D-Hop, Devante Adams big aggressive type WRs.

I think Kelvin Joseph is a better tackler than Diggs

It's just a matter of time in my opinion.

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