Ken Hamlin visiting Dallas on Wed.

[CF74]

Willis and Posluszny.

Where do they go to school? What round will they go?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There is some bad information that has been going around and most of it is agenda driven. The whole Julius Jones nonsense and people believing he gets better as the game goes on has been a crusade of mine against the Julius Jones and Notre Dame homers of the world.

This is another one. The Pat Watkins homer society would have you not only believe that he played well last season but that his competition is a whole myriad of lies. Watkins playing well is one. Ive looked at the tape and the guy wouldnt recognize a truck coming right at him much less a deep post but I dont want to get into that.

Hamlin being a SS that cannot cover is also one of them. Several scouting reports are in this very thread stating that he is not only a true FS but that he has very good recognition, fluid hips, and locks down TEs.

People are making innuendos about DUIs and a bunch of other things that are not true. He got in a fight and got beat over the head with a signpost. Thats it.

I truly believe that Pat Watkins is this years Rob Pettiti. We dont have Rob anymore so Watkins is filling the void. I heard so much about how Rob was hurt and he was working out hard and that before the injury he played well and he shut down Freeney and so forth. About how any competition was inferior. Thats how the Fabini hate started. That was garbage then just as this is garbage now.

Ken Hamlin is so much better than Pat Watkins its not even funny. Pro bowl considerations have been about one of them and its not the guy from FSU. Watkins would sit on the bench because he is not of the talent level that Hamlin is and you know what unless your a Watkins mindless homer that is a very very good thing.

 

[AmishCowboy]

I just don't see where signing Hamlin is bad, I'm a believer that Watkins in time May be a good player, but Hamlin fills the Void and let's us draft one of the WR's or Top rated CB's.

 

[CF74]

Ken Hamlin is so much better than Pat Watkins its not even funny. Pro bowl considerations have been about one of them and its not the guy from FSU. Watkins would sit on the bench because he is not of the talent level that Hamlin is and you know what unless your a Watkins mindless homer that is a very very good thing.

I'm not exactly a Watkins fan right now but I don't agree with your assessment. I think Hamlin has little room to improve unless he's been nursing some kind of injury, Watkins on the other hand has much room to grow...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm not exactly a Watkins fan right now but I don't agree with your assessment. I think Hamlin has little room to improve unless he's been nursing some kind of injury, Watkins on the other hand has much room to grow...

Other than the games we played the seahawks the last couple of years have you watched him play?

i see a bunch of stuff from scouting services about how is a good cover corner and a big hitter. I have seen the press talk about him being a possible probowl inivitee. And I see a bunch of what I am beginning to see as crap from posters here than have no real experience with the guy.

To me what you are saying is akin to saying we have McQuistan to start and we like his upsde so we shouldnt sign Leonard Davis or somesuch.

 

[CF74]

To me what you are saying is akin to saying we have McQuistan to start and we like his upsde so we shouldnt sign Leonard Davis or somesuch.

No I'm just saying I don't think one is way better than the other. I'm not against signing Hamlin nor am I jumping up and down for it...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Now the two sides get to do a safety dance

sss

aaa

fff

eee

ttt

yyy

safety, safety...dance, dance, dance

anyone else remember that song?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm all for signing him simply to increase the talent pool though am a bit uncertain as to why he's drawing so little interest (may validate the character issues) and he has seemed to regress since his inaugural two seasons.

he's probably been asking for too much

that mindset has probably changed now since he finds himself still on the market, and is willing to go lower

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Guys - Hamlin is NOT a FS??? At some point, we will have to draft a FS...for the love of ***. I know everyone is rooting for the 6'5" watkins, but sometimes a 5th rd pick is taken in the 5th rd for a reason. We HAVE to get 1-2 rd talent at FS if we want to do what wade wants to do with Roy and not play a cover 2.

that's because there aren't many 6'5" FSs, DBs need to turn and run, which makes it more difficult to do when you stand 6'5"

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Does anyone remember Julius flipping out at a Seattle player during the playoff game? I'm pretty sure that was Hamlin. I wonder what he did that pissed off Julius so much.

Hamlin plays like a punk, he's always in people's faces, pushing and shoving late, I remember when he was trying to punk Jerry Rice, or was it Brett Favre? I think it was both, he's a major punk on the field

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Funny how no one metioned that this possible signing might be being considered in regard to moving Roy Williams closer to the line of scrimmage on third down and long nickel and dime packages.

Hamlin, as someone mentioned, is a better SS, and SS he would be in these situations. Watkins would be our FS and Roy Williams would be given the opportunity to be moved up into the area where he can make plays, just like Jerry mentioned.

From that perspective, it makes sense.

On 1st and 2nd down, you go with Roy at SS and Hamlin at FS, both of which do very well in run support.

Maybe, Hamlin can cover Shockey on the goal line.

Hamlin gives Wade another wrinkle to play w/

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hamlin gives Wade another wrinkle to play w/

He has never played SS in college or the pros. This whole take is just stupid yet you agree with it? Oh yeah youre one of the Watkins is perfect homers.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He has never played SS in college or the pros. This whole take is just stupid yet you agree with it? Oh yeah youre one of the Watkins is perfect homers.

uh, both our safety positions are interchangeable, Norman

and Dallas has been experimenting w/ Jaque Reeves and Nate Jones at nickel safety in the offseason for the past 2 years

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

uh, both our safety positions are interchangeable, Norman

and Dallas has been experimenting w/ Jaque Reeves and Nate Jones at nickel safety in the offseason for the past 2 years

What does that have to do with anything? You were agreeing with a post whose major premise was that Hamlin could fill in at SS. You agree with that becaseu that scenario means Watkins still starts. Its the same nonsense you always pull.

And they were interchangable in Zimmers system only because Watkins was so bad at playing centerfield they never let him do it again after they benched him. This isnt Zimmers D anyway.

Hamlin does not play SS get that in your noggin. He played FS at Arkansa and at Seattle.

 

[5mics]

my buddy from Seattle told me they think Hamlin is a punk. Take that for what its worth but he is a hardcore seachickens fan.

Ken Hamlin > Deon Grant.....

 

[Bob Sacamano]

there is not much difference between the free and strong safety position, it's not like they have them run completely different drills and have different terminologies, it's just whoever is the better in coverage, would play free, and the more in the box type would play strong, besides, Hamlin can play in the box, and cover, and I could see where someone would think that Wade would try to put 3 safeties on the field, when one of them is a very good blitzer

and the safeties were interchangeable long before Watkins became a Cowboy, this has nothing to do w/ Watkins

 

[Bob Sacamano]

and think about this, in redzone situations, we could put Watkins patrolling the zone, where his height comes into play, Hamlin covering the TE, and send Roy on the blitz

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

there is not much difference between the free and strong safety position, it's not like they have them run completely different drills and have different terminologies, it's just whoever is the better in coverage, would play free, and the more in the box type would play strong, besides, Hamlin can play in the box, and cover, and I could see where someone would think that Wade would try to put 3 safeties on the field, when one of them is a very good blitzer

and the safeties were interchangeable long before Watkins became a Cowboy, this has nothing to do w/ Watkins

This is so tupid i dont know where to begin. Hamlin is not an in the box type ill start with that. He has not been asked to do that and youre making crap up. Second, the coverage assignments and run assignments are radically different on either side of the field. Ive actually read Phillips playbook from front to back and the coverage assgnments arent even close.

What youre saying is akin to saying solb and Wolb are the same and they just arent.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

and think about this, in redzone situations, we could put Watkins patrolling the zone, where his height comes into play, Hamlin covering the TE, and send Roy on the blitz

Or we could have Watkins on the bench where he belongs.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This is so tupid i dont know where to begin. Hamlin is not an in the box type ill start with that. He has not been asked to do that and youre making crap up. Second, the coverage assignments and run assignments are radically different on either side of the field. Ive actually read Phillips playbook from front to back and the coverage assgnments arent even close.

What youre saying is akin to saying solb and Wolb are the same and they just arent.

from his scouting report:

He has the ability to play both a traditional free safety and strong safety, but he is better suited as a free safety. Hamlin does a good job of getting in the box and is productive in his pass rush and blitzing.

I know it includes that he's better suited at FS, but he can run the responsibilities of a SS as well