Kevin Burnett - want your thoughts on him

[tomson75]

Why??

I can't wait for this one....

 

[BruceWayne]

I think he should've started in front of Akin to be honest the boy can cover

 

[Achozen]

Meh. He would be good on a 4-3 team.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

never understood why Parcells drafted him, although was excited when we did

hopefully Wade can work w/ him like he did w/ another smaller LB, Donnie Edwards, the kid is a heck of an athlete though

 

[tomson75]

I think he should've started in front of Akin to be honest the boy can cover

I've yet to see anyone claiming this provide evidence to back it up. I'm not sold...

 

[hendog]

Haven't liked him since before the draft and he said he was a 49'ers fan and would like to play for anyone but the Boy's.

 

[Frozen700]

Why??

umm...why not? when healthy dude is a play maker, F stats, we all seen him over the years, if you watch the games you would know the type of player he is, hes not a solid role playing guy like Akin, dude is a play maker giving the chance.

Out side of Newman, and Hamlin, we were not all that good on D in pass coverage. Everyone had an off year, it just so Happens even with a torn foot, Newman is just on another level

Burnett is a play maker when given a chance, if he can stay healthy and we start him, i guarantee you our D will much more fun to watch

 

[Frozen700]

Haven't liked him since before the draft and he said he was a 49'ers fan and would like to play for anyone but the Boy's.

he said that? he's a good player but F him if he said that

 

[tomson75]

umm...why not? when healthy dude is a play maker, F stats, we all seen him over the years, if you watch the games you would know the type of player he is, hes not a solid role playing guy like Akin, dude is a play maker giving the chance.

Out side of Newman, and Hamlin, we were not all that good on D in pass coverage. Everyone had an off year, it just so Happens even with a torn foot, Newman is just on another level

Burnett is a play maker when given a chance, if he can stay healthy and we start him, i guarantee you our D will much more fun to watch

:laugh2:

So he's been healthy for one game in his three year career? Outside of the INT and return, what other "play making" has Burnett treated us to? Can you give me an example? I seriously can't remember any...except for a few in training camp.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:laugh2:

So he's been healthy for one game in his three year career? Outside of the INT and return, what other "play making" has Burnett treated us to? Can you give me an example? I seriously can't remember any...except for a few in training camp.

I think he means all those tackles after 8 to 15 yard gains. Dude made a few nice plays in a preseason game against the run and hasnt done jack before or since.

 

[WoodysGirl]

:laugh2:

So he's been healthy for one game in his three year career? Outside of the INT and return, what other "play making" has Burnett treated us to? Can you give me an example? I seriously can't remember any...except for a few in training camp.

I'm glad you asked, cuz I sure couldn't find it. People say screw stats all the time, but what is the best way to quantify a playmaker? Stats.

And when I look at stats, he and Ayodele's numbers were remarkably similar. So if people are ready to run Ayodele out the door, using the same logic, I think Burnett should probably be given the same courtesy.

 

[Frozen700]

:laugh2:

So he's been healthy for one game in his three year career? Outside of the INT and return, what other "play making" has Burnett treated us to? Can you give me an example? I seriously can't remember any...except for a few in training camp.

yup i can tell you don't watch any cowboy games....i see you don't remember all his Forced Fumbles? yea go pull up your nfl.com stats, they may not show it, he has had a few FF in 2006 and 05

Dude has defended passes, gotten sacks...with his limited role he has done a lot

what has Akin done besides be a solid run supporter and get 1 or 2 ints.

Burnett Flies, and is way more athletic than any LB on this team besides Ware, Akin is nice and all....but Burnett should be starting

 

[batman36]

There are two ( Ware and Newman) catalytic players on this defense. Canty might develope into one over time. The other LB's, who are suppose to be THE GUYS in a 3-4 scheme, don't make many game changing plays. Burnett is what he is. Maybe in his contract year, he will play for a larger one and San Francisco will add him to their roster. Sadly, the best ILB's for this defense are not yet on the roster. Zach Thomas will help though.

 

[Frozen700]

I'm glad you asked, cuz I sure couldn't find it. People say screw stats all the time, but what is the best way to quantify a playmaker? Stats.

And when I look at stats, he and Ayodele's numbers were remarkably similar. So if people are ready to run Ayodele out the door, using the same logic, I think Burnett should probably be given the same courtesy.

Stats don't show it ALL!!!!!! go look at the games from 2-3 years ago, you will see the guy all over the place, i was watching highlights just the other day with this dude stripping, tackles for losses, defending passes, Akin is a role player....get over it.

Let me guess you defend Roy 2 right? thought so

 

[tomson75]

I'm glad you asked, cuz I sure couldn't find it. People say screw stats all the time, but what is the best way to quantify a playmaker? Stats.

And when I look at stats, he and Ayodele's numbers were remarkably similar. So if people are ready to run Ayodele out the door, using the same logic, I think Burnett should probably be given the same courtesy.

I mean, I wish he HAD provided us with some playmaking....maybe it would've meant the difference in a playoff game or something. However, at this point I just don't think it's there. He's been given three years' worth of opportunity to show his stuff, and it hasn't been there due to performance, injury, etc.

I seems as if he's somehow gained a resurgence in support throughout cowboy fandom, only I'm not sure where it is coming from. He's been here a year longer than Carpenter and has arguably done less given their respective opportunities. I can at least recall more than one game where Carp stood out on the field. I can't say the same for Burnett. Yet people are ready to run off Carpenter with a pitchfork while at the same time raise Burnett over their shoulders. I don't get it. I'm not sold that either player will be here in two years.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

yup i can tell you don't watch any cowboy games....i see you don't remember all his Forced Fumbles? yea go pull up your nfl.com stats, they may not show it, he has had a few FF in 2006 and 05

Dude has defended passes, gotten sacks...with his limited role he has done a lot

what has Akin done besides be a solid run supporter and get 1 or 2 ints.

Burnett Flies, and is way more athletic than any LB on this team besides Ware, Akin is nice and all....but Burnett should be starting

He has 1 FF 4 PD 1 Int and 2 sacks in three years. Of those only 2 PD were from last year.

So .3 FF 1.3 PD, .3 int and .7 sacks per year make him a playmaker huh?

Hes been as much of if not more of a disappointment as Carp has been.

 

[Frozen700]

I'm glad you asked, cuz I sure couldn't find it. People say screw stats all the time, but what is the best way to quantify a playmaker? Stats.

And when I look at stats, he and Ayodele's numbers were remarkably similar. So if people are ready to run Ayodele out the door, using the same logic, I think Burnett should probably be given the same courtesy.

Stats show everything right?

ok so according to you, D-Hall is all pro, right? And Newman sucks because his Ints are not that much

ok i get it now, thanks, this whole time i thought you had to watch games to see how good a guy is, but hey there are stats

 

[WoodysGirl]

yup i can tell you don't watch any cowboy games....i see you don't remember all his Forced Fumbles? yea go pull up your nfl.com stats, they may not show it, he has had a few FF in 2006 and 05

Dude has defended passes, gotten sacks...with his limited role he has done a lot

what has Akin done besides be a solid run supporter and get 1 or 2 ints.

Burnett Flies, and is way more athletic than any LB on this team besides Ware, Akin is nice and all....but Burnett should be starting

2007 Burnett 2 passes defensed, no sacks, one ff

2006 Burnett 1 pass defensed, 1 sack, 1 INT

2005 Burnett 1 sack, no passes defensed, no INTs

I actually like Burnett, but those numbers do not scream playmaker to me.

To show I'm not biased, Akin actually didn't have any INTs last year...only 4 passes defensed, no sacks, no ffs.

I guess if we're gauging up-side, then Burnett might have it on him. But then you still have to ask based on those numbers, did Burnett actually do anything to warrant starting over Ayodele or Bradie?

 

[Frozen700]

He has 1 FF 4 PD 1 Int and 2 sacks in three years. Of those only 2 PD were from last year.

So .3 FF 1.3 PD, .3 int and .7 sacks per year make him a playmaker huh?

Hes been as much of if not more of a disappointment as Carp has been.

Carp can't even sniff the field.....

he go look at highlights, since you cant go re watch the games, those stats don't show everything, im telling you go to you tube, or ask somebody for a highlight video...hold up let me go see if i can find any

 

[WoodysGirl]

Stats show everything right?

ok so according to you, D-Hall is all pro, right? And Newman sucks because his Ints are not that much

ok i get it now, thanks, this whole time i thought you had to watch games to see how good a guy is, but hey there are stats

I've never said D-Hall was better than Newman. Get your facts straight. As much as I'm on here, it shouldn't be too hard to figure that out.

Stats are about interpretation...and stats shouldn't be what you completely base your opinion on a player. However you mentioned that Burnett was a playmaker, so I had to go look it up, because I coudln't remember what plays he might've made