Kinda missed J.J. tonight

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Seattle offensive line isn't great, but it hasn't been great for a couple years. The biggest issue for them right now is the lack of mobility from Wilson due to injury along with some injury on defense. But their secondary is healthy and they are now welcoming back Bennett.

The way Seattle has played early in the season is not much different than how they've played early the past two years. They are a December and January team. As for our team being "complete" - Having 0 pass rush and players in and out of the secondary is not a "complete" team. It's an offensive powerhouse with a questionable D.

Just curious, why is it that Seattle gets the benefit of the doubt with you. They play like crap (and lose) and it's of no consequence. We struggle (and win) against the best D in the league, and we're doomed?

Seattle could very well beat us, it's not out of the realm of possibility, but the reality is their team jusr put up five points against the bucs. Hardly the offensive juggernaut litmus test. I'm not sure why you're touting their rookie rb when he's on the shelf for the next month. Also, they barely beat us last year with a much worse team, so it's not like we don't have some reference point.

There's no team in the league with minnys D and a scary offense, and if recent history is any indication we won't have an offensive performance like that again.

 

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Try to grasp the point. If this is how our offense will perform come playoff time against a good/great defense, we won't be seeing a Super Bowl.

It's a dumb point. It was one game out of 12 where the team struggled mightily, and still won.

Multiple turnovers, tons of penalties and missed opportunities, a very uncharacteristic game for this new nucleus. If you take every potential contenders worse game of the season, I assure you they lost. We didn't. So no need to take more from it than necessary if you aren't going to do it across the board. Grasp that.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Seattle offensive line isn't great, but it hasn't been great for a couple years. The biggest issue for them right now is the lack of mobility from Wilson due to injury along with some injury on defense. But their secondary is healthy and they are now welcoming back Bennett.

The way Seattle has played early in the season is not much different than how they've played early the past two years. They are a December and January team. As for our team being "complete" - Having 0 pass rush and players in and out of the secondary is not a "complete" team. It's an offensive powerhouse with a questionable D.

What have you been watching. Wilson isn't hurt anymore what are you taking about. Seattle isn't a power house offense this season. And again they aren't on the schedule anyways.

I get it you can never say anything positive about this team. It's always negative, we can't do this or that, Dak isn't good etc. Teams are struggling scoring on us. Some of the very best offenses can't score over 30 against us and most offenses haven't scored over 20 on us. We are very good on both sides of the ball and we are better then Seattle too. Seattle defense isn't as powerful as years past either but kept living in the past and not the present.....you will continue to be proven wrong like many times this season

 

[mattjames2010]

Just curious, why is it that Seattle gets the benefit of the doubt with you. They play like crap (and lose) and it's of no consequence. We struggle (and win) against the best D in the league, and we're doomed?

Seattle could very well beat us, it's not out of the realm of possibility, but the reality is their team jusr put up five points against the bucs. Hardly the offensive juggernaut litmus test. I'm not sure why you're touting their rookie rb when he's on the shelf for the next month. Also, they barely beat us last year with a much worse team, so it's not like we don't have some reference point.

There's no team in the league with minnys D and a scary offense, and if recent history is any indication we won't have an offensive performance like that again.

4 straight years of playoffs, 2 Super Bowls, 1 win. Great QB, top defense when healthy, getting hot at the right time. That's the benefit of the doubt, they are a proven team with a winning recent history.

We are a team on a hot streak. But I care about hot streaks in December - February. This defense isn't going to get much better, that makes us middle of the pack or worse especially with 0 pass rush. Can you think of a team with our lack of a pass rush that has won a Super Bowl? I would guess if there is one in recent memory, they had a team that forced a lot of turnovers or had an elite secondary.

17 points against a good/great defense simply isn't going to cut it in playoffs. But hey, maybe we'll get lucky and play mediocre to bad defenses and never face Seattle. That's a possibility.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Just curious, why is it that Seattle gets the benefit of the doubt with you. They play like crap (and lose) and it's of no consequence. We struggle (and win) against the best D in the league, and we're doomed?

Seattle could very well beat us, it's not out of the realm of possibility, but the reality is their team jusr put up five points against the bucs. Hardly the offensive juggernaut litmus test. I'm not sure why you're touting their rookie rb when he's on the shelf for the next month. Also, they barely beat us last year with a much worse team, so it's not like we don't have some reference point.

There's no team in the league with minnys D and a scary offense, and if recent history is any indication we won't have an offensive performance like that again.

You can't tell him the facts he is a negative person. He has nothing good to ever say about Dallas and I think he is just a troll to be honest. Facts and common sense doesn't work with those people

 

[mrmojo]

What's up with all the Seattle love?

 

[mattjames2010]

What have you been watching. Wilson isn't hurt anymore what are you taking about. Seattle isn't a power house offense this season. And again they aren't on the schedule anyways.

I get it you can never say anything positive about this team. It's always negative, we can't do this or that, Dak isn't good etc. Teams are struggling scoring on us. Some of the very best offenses can't score over 30 against us and most offenses haven't scored over 20 on us. We are very good on both sides of the ball and we are better then Seattle too. Seattle defense isn't as powerful as years past either but kept living in the past and not the present.....you will continue to be proven wrong like many times this season

Wilson isn't hurt anymore? Dude, his knee is not 100%, it's probably going to be a lingering issue the entire season. And he's still on the injury report.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks-team-injuries

The TB game is the first game he's been really mobile all year. And I have been telling you, Russel Wilson has been battling an injury. He wasn't as elusive, wasn't as mobile, and was having trouble stepping into his throws. He most likely won't be 100% until next season, but he will be a lot better come playoff time.

"We are very good on both sides of the ball"

- One turnover in 5 weeks on the defensive side of the ball is not "very good" - That means we have to keep the turnover battle to 0 or 1 nearly every week or our chances of winning start to diminish. Luckily, our special teams came up with a turnover on Sunday.

 

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4 straight years of playoffs, 2 Super Bowls, 1 win. Great QB, top defense when healthy, getting hot at the right time. That's the benefit of the doubt, they are a proven team with a winning recent history.

We are a team on a hot streak. But I care about hot streaks in December - February. This defense isn't going to get much better, that makes us middle of the pack or worse especially with 0 pass rush. Can you think of a team with our lack of a pass rush that has won a Super Bowl? I would guess if there is one in recent memory, they had a team that forced a lot of turnovers or had an elite secondary.

17 points against a good/great defense simply isn't going to cut it in playoffs. But hey, maybe we'll get lucky and play mediocre to bad defenses and never face Seattle. That's a possibility.

Honestly I get that. But the reality is, they won one super bowl and that team is not the same. Lynch was a huge part of their identity, and they clearly suffer from not having him.

As far as playing mediocre defenses... we've already played (and beaten) 3 of the top 5 defenses in the league.

Lastly 17 points is our lowest output of the season and against the best defense in the league, in a win. Seattles got a few games already where combining the scores doesn't get to 17.

Stop taking our worst game and projecting it as our standard performance moving forward

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Wilson isn't hurt anymore? Dude, his knee is not 100%, it's probably going to be a lingering issue the entire season. And he's still on the injury report.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks-team-injuries

The TB game is the first game he's been really mobile all year. And I have been telling you, Russel Wilson has been battling an injury. He wasn't as elusive, wasn't as mobile, and was having trouble stepping into his throws. He most likely won't be 100% until next season, but he will be a lot better come playoff time.

"We are very good on both sides of the ball"

- One turnover in 5 weeks on the defensive side of the ball is not "very good" - That means we have to keep the turnover battle to 0 or 1 nearly every week or our chances of winning start to diminish. Luckily, our special teams came up with a turnover on Sunday.

Our Defense is good. Against Washington no sacks and no turnovers but yet held them to 26 points (a top 3 offense) they give up yards but teams struggle to score and we are doing it by stopping them without sacks and turnovers.

Against the Vikings we had 3 sacks. We lost the time of possession, turnover battle and really couldn't do much on offense...yet we won because defense kept us in it by making teams kick 3 instead of TDs.

Go complain somewhere else, only silly fake Cowboy fans moan and cry about a team on a 11 game win streak and 2 points from being undefeated

 

[Irvin88_4life]

4 straight years of playoffs, 2 Super Bowls, 1 win. Great QB, top defense when healthy, getting hot at the right time. That's the benefit of the doubt, they are a proven team with a winning recent history.

We are a team on a hot streak. But I care about hot streaks in December - February. This defense isn't going to get much better, that makes us middle of the pack or worse especially with 0 pass rush. Can you think of a team with our lack of a pass rush that has won a Super Bowl? I would guess if there is one in recent memory, they had a team that forced a lot of turnovers or had an elite secondary.

17 points against a good/great defense simply isn't going to cut it in playoffs. But hey, maybe we'll get lucky and play mediocre to bad defenses and never face Seattle. That's a possibility.

Seattle 5 points in the playoffs ain't gonna cut it. Also our defense isn't middle of the pack you should really go see what they rank

 

[mattjames2010]

Honestly I get that. But the reality is, they won one super bowl and that team is not the same. Lynch was a huge part of their identity, and they clearly suffer from not having him.

As far as playing mediocre defenses... we've already played (and beaten) 3 of the top 5 defenses in the league.

Lastly 17 points is our lowest output of the season and against the best defense in the league, in a win. Smarties got a few games already where combining the scores doesn't get to 17.

Stop taking our worst game and projecting it as our standard performance moving forward

Who is the third defense? We have played Vikings and Baltimore, but again, both of those teams are plagued with some of the worst offenses in the league. You talking about Philly? Well, I mean, not exactly the great offensive performance we had.

We have played teams that have great defenses with complete and utterly disastrous offenses. Both the Vikings and Eagles have sputtered in the second half.

This will most likely not be our year. Next year IF we address the D-line correctly and don't allow every secondary player to walk, I think we have a chance at the trophy.

 

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Also the 15 points we gave minny is more on line with the season avg we've allowed than the 17 points we scored is.

Seattle is not a boogie man. They're a great team prone to lapses like any other (but with more recently than us) and in our past two meetings, we've beaten them and lost a close one with a qb who isn't good enough to get backup time currently.

Not to mention we're 11-1 and the talk of the league and the worst, most worrisome game we've had was still a win, and against the best defense in the league.

Man I should be playing with my son instead of you. This is ridiculous

 

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Who is the third defense? We have played Vikings and Baltimore, but again, both of those teams are plagued with some of the worst offenses in the league. You talking about Philly? Well, I mean, not exactly the great offensive performance we had.

We have played teams that have great defenses with complete and utterly disastrous offenses. Both the Vikings and Eagles have sputtered in the second half.

This will most likely not be our year. Next year IF we address the D-line correctly and don't allow every secondary player to walk, I think we have a chance at the trophy.

Yes philly. Not my opinion, their rankings. And who cares if their offenses sputtered if the gold standard Seahawks have had several performances worse than any of their worst this year. Bad offensive performances suddenly only matter if they're against us? Well how bout we just assume the Seahawks will also have a sputtering offensive performance against as well since that seems to be a trend

 

[mattjames2010]

Our Defense is good. Against Washington no sacks and no turnovers but yet held them to 26 points (a top 3 offense) they give up yards but teams struggle to score and we are doing it by stopping them without sacks and turnovers.

Against the Vikings we had 3 sacks. We lost the time of possession, turnover battle and really couldn't do much on offense...yet we won because defense kept us in it by making teams kick 3 instead of TDs.

Go complain somewhere else, only silly fake Cowboy fans moan and cry about a team on a 11 game win streak and 2 points from being undefeated

Please, stop pointing out outliers. To win in this league, normally the winning formula is winning the turnover battle and getting pressure on the QB. Our O has done a good job with ball control, but all it takes is one sloppy game on special teams and offense for it to flip us. Again, you'll cite the Vikings game, losing the turnover battle diminishes the chances of winning dramatically the more you turn it over. So if we start to lose the turnover battle, you have to hope you can match it, and with our D it seems nearly impossible. We are not getting the turnovers like we did in 2014.

My frustration with our team has come with the lack of addressing our D-line and it has come back to bite us for a few years now. We have taken chances on troubled players and it's hurting us. There is no excuse to having this little progress on the D-line since switching to the 4-3, it has been the biggest black mark on Garrett's resume since 2011.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Who is the third defense? We have played Vikings and Baltimore, but again, both of those teams are plagued with some of the worst offenses in the league. You talking about Philly? Well, I mean, not exactly the great offensive performance we had.

We have played teams that have great defenses with complete and utterly disastrous offenses. Both the Vikings and Eagles have sputtered in the second half.

This will most likely not be our year. Next year IF we address the D-line correctly and don't allow every secondary player to walk, I think we have a chance at the trophy.

No youre right Dallas is garbage, they haven't played anybody and we are just lucky to be 11-1. All these other teams are so much better then us........

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Please, stop pointing out outliers. To win in this league, normally the winning formula is winning the turnover battle and getting pressure on the QB. Our O has done a good job with ball control, but all it takes is one sloppy game on special teams and offense for it to flip us. Again, you'll cite the Vikings game, losing the turnover battle diminishes the chances of winning dramatically the more you turn it over. So if we start to lose the turnover battle, you have to hope you can match it, and with our D it seems nearly impossible. We are not getting the turnovers like we did in 2014.

My frustration with our team has come with the lack of addressing our D-line and it has come back to bite us for a few years now. We have taken chances on troubled players and it's hurting us. There is no excuse to having this little progress on the D-line since switching to the 4-3, it has been the biggest black mark on Garrett's resume since 2011.

Yep no excuse for winning more then 1 game by losing the turnover battle, it wasn't just the Vikings game. No excuse for this team being 11-1 how is Garrett still the coach he is a bum. No excuse for our scoring defense to be top 10 even even missing a great deal.

Dude you're act is getting old and you're just making yourself look silly the more you write. How can anybody be upset at 11-1 is beyond me. Are you mad cause we don't have to score over 30 to win like you predicted......you're a joke. Move along

 

[mattjames2010]

Yes philly. Not my opinion, their rankings. And who cares if their offenses sputtered if the gold standard Seahawks have had several performances worse than any of their worst this year. Bad offensive performances suddenly only matter if they're against us? Well how bout we just assume the Seahawks will also have a sputtering offensive performance against as well since that seems to be a trend

No, it's mainly because Seattle has had a good reason for their offensive woes. Baltimore and Vikings simply don't have the talent. Seahawks have had a banged up QB who is gradually getting healthier as the season goes on.

Also, I don't want to have to go into the playoffs needing to win shootouts against great offenses. We'll most likely be seeing one at some point. My biggest issue right now, and I find it hard to believe no one else finds it to be a red flag, is the lack of turnovers. 0 turnovers on our D in 5 weeks is ridiculous and a formula to lose.

 

[mattjames2010]

Yep no excuse for winning more then 1 game by losing the turnover battle, it wasn't just the Vikings game. No excuse for this team being 11-1 how is Garrett still the coach he is a bum. No excuse for our scoring defense to be top 10 even even missing a great deal.

Dude you're act is getting old and you're just making yourself look silly the more you write. How can anybody be upset at 11-1 is beyond me. Are you mad cause we don't have to score over 30 to win like you predicted......you're a joke. Move along

Do you know what the percentages of winning/losing is when it comes turnover differential?

http://www.footballnation.com/content/nfl-teams-that-win-turnover-battle-have-72-17-record/26247/

We have to hope for two things 1. This team continues to have 0 turnovers in nearly every game 2. Our defense suddenly finds a way to create picks and fumbles

A lot of this factors into the lack of pass rush, giving QBs more time to scan the field gets them to open targets. I have no idea what our issue is with lack of forced fumbles, it has plagued us since last season.

Do you agree, yes or no, that this is a problem? If yes, I'm not entirely sure why you are arguing. Because i'm not heaping praise all the time? Sorry, not the kind of fan I am. There's plenty here like that.

 

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No, it's mainly because Seattle has had a good reason for their offensive woes. Baltimore and Vikings simply don't have the talent. Seahawks have had a banged up QB who is gradually getting healthier as the season goes on.

Also, I don't want to have to go into the playoffs needing to win shootouts against great offenses. We'll most likely be seeing one at some point. My biggest issue right now, and I find it hard to believe no one else finds it to be a red flag, is the lack of turnovers. 0 turnovers on our D in 5 weeks is ridiculous and a formula to lose.

I think it's a red flag too, but am hoping we have Wilcox, and Claiborne back along with church and scandrick more healthy. Also noting that even though they don't show up in the box score, Lee and Carr have picks on 2 point conversions, hitch was robbed of a pick, and lord stone hands dropped a pick and bobbled a fumble recovery out of bounds. I'd like to believe that things will normalize moving forward and we should get some of those. Also the whole first team in 80 years to win 4 in a row without a TO showing we're not entirely dependent on it. Teams need to play complete mistake free football to beat us, and to this point it's just not happening. One of those is gonna give, and I'm buying our odds over others.

I get your concerns, and I'll be just as devastated as you if they come to fruition. The difference though is until/if it happens, I'll be enjoying the ride

 

[mahoneybill]

The only complaint i have with Brown is not getting his head turned to possibly intercept the pass.

Having said that...last night he perfectly timed a pass breakup without turning around and just based his timing on the receiver's eyes anticipation.it was like he has eyes in the back of his head.

He has been tremendous thus far...He also tackles very well too.

Agree. Been a long time since we saw a CB stick a guy right at the catch, and if I recall correctly even one behind the LOS