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That’s because Dak cannot operate from under center. He has a whopping 9 plays taken from under center rest has all been out of the shotgun so far, at some point you need to understand that you qbs ceiling is affecting your play calling.
Quit with your lies already. You sound extremely foolish.

Oh, look...what is this? His top pass plays from 2019 where almost 1/3rd of them are play-action while Dak was under Center!!!!!!!

 

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Seriously? Dak has improved on so many levels since his rookie season, they can't get him to play under center? I am not a Dak supporter, but he is what we have. I don't want to pay him 40 million but that is on Jerry. I just want to deploy Zeke...

I don't hate Dak. I think he is a QB who you can win games with provided you have enough talent around him - on defense and on offense to cover up his short comings. What you cannot do is pay him like Patrick Mahomes and then watch your franchise struggle to 5-11 for the next 5 - 6 years while you are wondering why the Cowboys don't have any talent on defense.
 

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Lol. Didn't Ewok have a grand total of 37 yards on the ground vs. Seattle. Yup. He's worth every bit of $90 million. :laugh:

You can't blame the player for what the idiot GM does. With the way the offensive line is it's going to be a tough year for Zeke as he won't have the luxury of running behind a stout run blocking line anymore.
 

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Just go back to the highlights of games of Dak on a weekly basis making throws and watch how he stares down his first read for days on single coverage and those are the throws he normally makes. There is ZERO special this guy does, except he does a really good play fake on the read option.
 

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And note to Dak-stans:

There is a difference between under center (quick 1-3 step) and the traditional drop back (3, 5, 7) from under center. Wright in the links above has broken down all the pass plays and explains this very clearly how limited Dak is.
 

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Dakstans that love to bash Zeke are completely operating from an imaginary realm. Dak has essentially wasted the first five years of Zeke’s career.

Damn Shame. . . even Jerry was talking about how Dak wasted the Greatest Offensive Line ever assembled. . . when will this Clown Show leave town.
 

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So you agree then, he takes most of his plays out of the shotgun. Glad we could have a civil discussion.
Yes, Dak does take most of his pass plays out of shotgun, but it doesn't mean he can't pass from under Center as you said. There has got to be a reason for why Dak runs more pass plays from out of shotgun. Not because he can't.
 

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There has got to be a reason for why Dak runs more pass plays from out of shotgun. Not because he can't.

I didn't say that he can't, I'm saying that he struggles at taking snaps under center and he sucks at it. This is his 5th year in the league - as a rookie sure, I get it, there is a massive leap from college to the pros. I will even give him a pass for his first 3 years because hey, he's a 4th round pick, needs time to hone his craft. But last year and this year with the same thing? That is one part of his game that hasn't improved along with his awareness for a collapsing pocket. But due to that limitation it also limits play action, and why Zeke is taking so many hand offs from the shotgun.
 

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Hello? Is anybody out there?
RB is a position where the player is not going to be successful without a decent OL. If you don’t believe that, look at the last two seasons for Barkley in NY. With our OL decimated and no legit backups, no one should be surprised if Zeke and Dak both struggled. I’m sure the team had plans to use Zeke and Pollard better in the passing game, but with our OT situation, Zeke’s blocking is needed more than Pollard’s versatility, and Zeke has to be the predictable outlet for short yardage when the protection breaks down, so no getting downfield.

It’s like the stupid comments about pushing the ball downfield last game instead of the short passes On the final drive. You take the safest route to scoring position with only 1 timeout where a sack may end the game. I actually thought the final drive was masterful considering where we started and the time on the clock. We were right where we needed to be, on time, with a TO, before the OL fell apart with a penalty and poor blocking vs the 3 man rush.

I was never a fan of drafting Zeke so high, never a fan of giving him a huge salary during his holdout, but I am a fan of his as our RB. With our OL and defense in the first 3 games, Zeke is part of the reason Dak and the receivers have had success. His numbers are irrelevant.
 
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I didn't say that he can't, I'm saying that he struggles at taking snaps under center and he sucks at it.

Sorry, but you are pulling this out of your butt. When has he ever fumbled taking a snap under center? All his QB sneaks in critical situations come from under center...never a problem. Aikman struggled with the shotgun and preferred being under center. Romo lived in the shotgun. Shotgun is a staple of our offense, not because of Dak. Check out the stats of shotgun vs under center for the whole league.

I will add that Zeke is also struggling, not only from a horrendous OL, but the first year never having a FB. Penetration or a successful run blitz kills the run when there’s no FB to stick the first guy and give the RB a split second. I know the FB is no longer a staple in the NFL, but most teams still use one in short yardage, in the red zone, and when the OL is struggling.
 

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Just go back to the highlights of games of Dak on a weekly basis making throws and watch how he stares down his first read for days on single coverage and those are the throws he normally makes. There is ZERO special this guy does, except he does a really good play fake on the read option.

Then DBs must be terrible at reading eyes because he throws minimal picks..
 

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You can save the OL excuses, there are plenty of worse run blocking OLs in this league


I'm guessing the 3 or 4 dropped screen passes Sunday factored into it since we're talking targets, not receptions. That play didn't work when it was completed, either.

Can't believe how many times they called it since it didn't actually work once.
 

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Quit with your lies already. You sound extremely foolish.

Oh, look...what is this? His top pass plays from 2019 where almost 1/3rd of them are play-action while Dak was under Center!!!!!!!


Don’t bother. People make anything up.

If Dak is so bad why doesn’t every QB have 5000 + yards and 30 TDs a season?
 

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As much as I’m not approving of Elliot and getting paid. Seattle is just a great run stopping team. I think we lost both games because if one or two coaching decisions. As bad as the offense of line and defense of backfield is we had an opportunity
 
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