King of inefficiency

[zrinkill]

What a stupid thread

 

[aria]

This is why we continue to lose.

WHO CARES!?!

Dallas, again, doesn’t need to focus on offense. Who CARES if Zeke is ranked last. WHO CARES if Dak is ranked last. If we win, we win. Other teams don’t care about stats other than wins.

I find it funny that everyone here claims the players and the team cares too much about little stuff like stats, and that the team is too “Hollywood”. But look at yourselves. All dolled up in glitter and glam, worried about this stat, and that stat, and this person, and that person, and gossip on this, and gossip on that. STOP!!!

Just like Jerry, we’re worried about something else and not addressing the issue, which so far, is the defense. Can we address that first before going all Hammer time on Zeke’s stupid 4 yards or whatever y’all are talking about?!?

Well it’s relevant because thy decided to pay a RB instead of a top corner. That RB refused to play with two years left on his contract until Jerrah met his demands to be paid as the best and highest RB in the league. Since Jerry caved and they did pay him as such, I expect him to meet those expectations and he’s failed.

I don’t recall what Bradberry’s contract with the Giants was but so far he’s been a shut down corner for them, he’s actually their only very good player. Would we have been able to get Bradberry and keep Jones with the money we gave zeke? What about a safety and keep Jones?

Point being, we could have had a much better defense (which often wins championships) but Jerrah decided to pay a RB (which don’t win championships) instead. Now we’re seeing the results of that horrendous decision and contract.

 

[CowboyFrog]

That’s because Dak cannot operate from under center. He has a whopping 9 plays taken from under center rest has all been out of the shotgun so far, at some point you need to understand that you qbs ceiling is affecting your play calling.

So, so far Dak is responsible for our defensive woes and Zeke's problems as far as your concerned?......

 

[khiladi]

Dak is garbage at the traditional drop back from under center, which is why they call it rarely and this has been known for years.

Another focus was on the depth of his drops from center, which were too long and put his tackles in difficult spots because they were not expecting him to be so deep on his five- or seven-step drops. The goal is to have the same landmarks on each drop on each play.

"He's got a long stride, so he's really working at getting back there," Linehan said. "So sometimes it's perfect, but sometimes it may be a little deep. Maybe sometimes we're overemphasizing it. Maybe he's not deep enough. It's things like that that you look at and work on and you kind of break yourself down and I think he's really done a great job of doing that as well as focusing on his overall game."

https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-co...tt-hopes-a-change-in-mechanics-yields-results

Even in his ‘amazing’ year, Linehan had to completely simplify the offense for him, which explains why he completely sucked in 2017, after teams started taking away Beasley. The following are his numbers in 2016 regarding drop backs:

Given the frequency that Dallas runs when Dak is under center and throw when he is in the shotgun, offensive balance starts with limiting to the use of the shotgun to around 50%.

In the beginning of the season, the Cowboys were using the shotgun more often than Dak was lining up under center. Then there were a few weeks when Scott Linehan used the shotgun about 50% of the time. Even against the Ravens when they were trailing and had to punt on their first 4 possessions, Linehan maintained close to a 50% balance.

Against the Commanders two weeks ago, Linehan went heavy with the shotgun (34 times versus 22 under center).

Against the Vikings, despite being a tight game, Scott Linehan was able to continue a good balance between the run and pass.

The Cowboys ran 51 plays against the Vikings. The previous low for the season was the 56 offensive snaps against the Commanders.

Dak Prescott lined up under center 31 times and in the shotgun 20 times.

Of the 31 times that Dak was under center, they ran it 23 times, attempted 7 playaction passes, and threw the ball once.

That one throw (no real drop-back, just a quick throw to the outside immediately following the snap) is something the Cowboys rarely do. They have never asked Dak to attempt a tradition 3-5 or 7 step drop from directly under center and throw the ball. Linehan has only called this kind of passing play 5 times so far this season on 1st down (11 times in total), and I am pretty sure this is the 1st time they have tried it to D. Bryant. Defenses expect a run or play-action when Dak is under center – Linehan broke that tendency and it resulted in a very significant touchdown.

https://cowboyszone.com/2016/12/analyzing-linehans-use-of-shotgun-prescotts-success-vs-min.html/amp

The same people saying our OC had no clue and are the reason Dak was limited is a joke. Moore has been doing the same thing as I referenced in the article above. Dak can’t do a traditional drop back pass, and when he is asked to do a 1-3 drop back, it’s primarily a quick pass. The only difference between Moore and Dak is that he’s leveraged the play-action a lot more from shot-gun on first downs.

Dak is a system QB, plain and simple. A QB who limits the offense period. The one time Moore called the drop back, Dak double clutched and was strip sacked.

 

[khiladi]

Don’t bother. People make anything up.

If Dak is so bad why doesn’t every QB have 5000 + yards and 30 TDs a season?

Blake Bortles and Jamies Winston called.. Dak has done it once and last year, it was in garbage time, stat padding in losses to bum teams. Half of his TDs last year came against the Commanders and Giants and this dude was even acknowledging the offense was struggling during the November and December stretch, while he threw his teammates under the bus for it. Dak-stans can live in denial all they want regarding this offense, but even Dak had to say it wasn’t his fault.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

What a stupid thread

Elaborate, or else your post is the stupid part.

 

[khiladi]

Then DBs must be terrible at reading eyes because he throws minimal picks..

We saw what happened In the Dak-friendly offense when he didn’t have elite WRs like Cooper, and when teams like the Colts shifted help to the side of Cooper with Dak’s whopping zero points put up and putting up Quincy Carter levels of futility even with the all pro OL and RG. Throwing against DBs in man coverage with only one safety that is biting off play action of a guy like Zeke is nothing special..

and he didn’t have Zeke, forcing all the man cover with his whopping 100 yards against the Commanders and couldn’t even put up double scoring against the 3 winning teams he played during that six game stretch.

 

[ConstantReboot]

This is utterly asinine. We’ve only played three games and two of them, Zeke was over 4 YPC. Game 3 obfuscated the stats, because it’s one game of 3. If you look on a game to game basis, the stats don’t convey this subjective cut off point of 10 and 10, especially since Zeke has two games of 22 carries each and this last one, he had 17. These Twitter stats reveal more about how cluelessly subjective people are in the numbers they try to make a case than anything else.

Dak had three TOs in the last game and should have had 4, because a DB dropped an easy INT right in his chest in what would have been Seattle scoring territory, and maybe5 on his bone-headed toss to his right, where there was nobody but multiple Seattle defenders, when he was spun around and about to get sacked in Dallas own territory once again.

And play action and the threat of Zeke in the backfield, “despite Zeke sucking” is still the only pass Dak does well, because defenses load the box and this mediocrity sees one safety all day. Dak is operating out of shotgun on first down regularly with Zeke in the backfield, which explains the ‘success of passing’ on that down. That’s the only real difference between Linehan and Moore, where Linehan ran it more on first than Moore. The QB is a joke.

The point about the RG is to force defenses into looks that the passing game should be able to exploit, which it still does because of “the king of inefficiency”. It’s not Zeke’s fault he has a mediocre QB.

Sure let's blame Zeke's production ALL on Dak. Can you ever come up with something more original?

 

[khiladi]

Sure let's blame Zeke's production ALL on Dak. Can you ever come up with something more original?

Sure, let’s blame OL, Cooper, McCarthy, Garrett when he’s gone, Jerry Jones and everybody else for Dak. Who blamed all of it on Dak? He is the major issue, which is more than adequately seen in how he can’t even do a traditional drop-back pass from the Center and how much one safety-man he sees..

 

[BobbyFlame469]

Blake Bortles and Jamies Winston called.. Dak has done it once and last year, it was in garbage time, stat padding in losses to bum teams. Half of his TDs last year came against the Commanders and Giants and this dude was even acknowledging the offense was struggling during the November and December stretch, while he threw his teammates under the bus for it. Dak-stans can live in denial all they want regarding this offense, but even Dak had to say it wasn’t his fault.

Dak is on pace for

42 overall TDs 11 INTs and 5,600 passing yards


Those stats are better than Cam Newton, Tom Brady, and Matt Ryan’s MVP seasons.

 

[CowboysLegend365]

Lol the guy who had three fumbles was, in a game when our QB had 450 yards, was our best player?

Bro you're goofy

Zeke didn’t have 3 fumbles vs ATL. Lmao. Do you watch? Goofy. Zeke, Schultz, and Dak fumbled vs. ATL.

Zeke had our only 2 TDs vs. LA and one TD (and 122 total yards) vs. Atlanta.

If you want to make a case for Dak then cool but it doesn’t discredit what 21 did in the first two games. He had a bad game vs. Seattle but he’ll be back.

 

[kumizi]

Honestly the Zeke fans are a good barometer of intelligence (or lack of)for me. He’s ok, not bad. Maybe slightly above average.

hey guys he’s among the league leaders in rush yards. Yea numbskulls because he doesn’t split carries like 90% of the other backs and played behind a top 3 oline for the first three years of his career. Every advanced stat says he’s mediocre.

his numbers and production are a result of opportunity and help. A ****** hitter could hit 4th behind Mike Trout and Barry Bonds and get 100 RBI.

Leonard Fournette had almost identical numbers to Zeke last year and no one would trade a 7th for him and got released.

 

[CWR]

Zeke has ONE bad game and crap like this gets posted.

 

[khiladi]

Dak is on pace for

42 overall TDs 11 INTs and 5,600 passing yards


Those stats are better than Cam Newton, Tom Brady, and Matt Ryan’s MVP seasons.

Josh Allen has thrown for 10 TDs and 1 INT and is at a similar yardage and is 3-0 with a much worse group of WRs. Dak was on pace for that last year and sucked as well.

Your claim is this mediocre QB averaged 5000 yards. No he doesn’t.. And padding for 5000 yards is nothing special in this say and age, which is why guys like Winston out-yardages Dak with a way worse OL and RG. And it’s not special when all that yardage is coming in garbage time.

 

[CowboysLegend365]

Lol, fumbling the ball twice on 3 carries which resulted in the other team getting a TD is our best? We’re in trouble.

4 ypc and 86 yards should never be the “best” unless you’re facing the best defense of all time. That was an average performance.

Let’s totally ignore the first game where he was most of our offense all night. The only other guy who you can make a case for is Dak and he fumbled too which resulted in a score.

 

[khiladi]

Honestly the Zeke fans are a good barometer of intelligence (or lack of)for me. He’s ok, not bad. Maybe slightly above average.

hey guys he’s among the league leaders in rush yards. Yea numbskulls because he doesn’t split carries like 90% of the other backs and played behind a top 3 oline for the first three years of his career. Every advanced stat says he’s mediocre.

his numbers and production are a result of opportunity and help. A ****** hitter could hit 4th behind Mike Trout and Barry Bonds and get 100 RBI.

Leonard Fournette had almost identical numbers to Zeke last year and no one would trade a 7th for him and got released.

1000 of Zeke’s yards in his first season were after contact and he was averaging over 5 YPC on first down, when teams were set on stopping the run and Dak was managing the bus. When Zeke was suspended for six games, Dak was an utter disaster, struggling even against garbage teams that were eliminated from the play-offs halfway into the season and he couldn’t even put up double digits scoring against winning teams.

Like I said, Zeke’s impact is more than obvious in all the man, single safety Dak sees and why Dak led the league in passing yardage off play action. When Cooper came, Dak’s percentage shot up simply because of the man coverage and no safety help the elite QR and probably best route runner in the game in Cooper was seeing. Dak against zone coverage that year was complete and utter garbage even against the Colts, when they shadows Cooper. The Eagles didn’t even bother with that, and Cooper had to tell this mediocre QB the CB was sitting on the route with no safety help, so just throw the ball.

The reason Dak scored twice on the read option against the Falcons is because every defender was keying in on Zeke and Dak walked into the end zone.

Fournette averaged under 4 YPC when Blake Bortles was his QB and is now at over 5 YPC, because he’s got a ‘washed up’ QB in Tom Brady. Last year he got his numbers, because he had a better QB then Bortles, and that was Minshew, who threw close to 3300 yards in 12 games starting in his first year and who also ran on 67 attempts.

The problem is the mediocre QB wasting Zeke’s career.

 

[Williamsboys]

You know which fans just Love stats?? Fan of losing teams..Have you Ever seen the fans of a Super Blow winner stats right after their team won it all?? More like "F@#$ Yeah Babyyyyyyyyyyyy"

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Let's check back at the end of the year and see how things turn out.

 

[basel90]

Zeke got paid. That’s all. When was the last time you saw a Cowboys player get paid and still show up on game day? Zack Martin and Demarcus Ware are the two I can think off over the last 20 years.

Exactly . It is a pattern . Dak is next .

 

[BobbyFlame469]

Josh Allen has thrown for 10 TDs and 1 INT and is at a similar yardage and is 3-0 with a much worse group of WRs. Dak was on pace for that last year and sucked as well.

Your claim is this mediocre QB averaged 5000 yards. No he doesn’t.. And padding for 5000 yards is nothing special in this say and age, which is why guys like Winston out-yardages Dak with a way worse OL and RG. And it’s not special when all that yardage is coming in garbage time.

Stephon diggs and a defense that gives the offense multiple turnovers to work with.

also josh Allen is making the leap into great tier. Both him and Dak Are great QBs .


Only 5 QBs are playing better than Dak right now

mahomes
Wilson
Allen
Rodgers
Kyler


All have rosters with similar or better offensive talent than Dallas. Dak is a baller.