King of inefficiency

[rnr_honeybadger]

Sorry, but you are pulling this out of your butt. When has he ever fumbled taking a snap under center? All his QB sneaks in critical situations come from under center...never a problem. Aikman struggled with the shotgun and preferred being under center. Romo lived in the shotgun. Shotgun is a staple of our offense, not because of Dak. Check out the stats of shotgun vs under center for the whole league.

I will add that Zeke is also struggling, not only from a horrendous OL, but the first year never having a FB. Penetration or a successful run blitz kills the run when there’s no FB to stick the first guy and give the RB a split second. I know the FB is no longer a staple in the NFL, but most teams still use one in short yardage, in the red zone, and when the OL is struggling.

How much would play action help with the run blitz kills? How much of it is successful because he is being handed the ball out of the shotgun?

 

[Whirlwin]

1. You can win with him provided that there is enough around him to make up for his shortcomings
2. He is demanding that he be paid like an elite QB - which would be a mistake considering #1

First of all he’s already getting paid more than any other quarterback in the league. Second of all he deserves it the kid is a winner he’s not the reason we’re having issues. If anything he’s the reason we’re have a chance to win the sloppy games

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Second of all he deserves it the kid is a winner he’s not the reason we’re having issues.

Two weeks in a row, the Cowboys have had to dig out of a hole. A hole actively contributed and created by the offense. Last week Dak contributed to two turnovers. I won't count the last interception because that was a last gasp effort of throw it up and hope someone catches it. The week before against Atlanta he fumbles, Zeke fumbles and Schultz fumbles. So yea, part of our issues were contributed by Dak. Is he the entire problem? No. Has he helped dig us out sure. Was he partially responsible for putting us into the hole...also yes.

 

[Whirlwin]

Two weeks in a row, the Cowboys have had to dig out of a hole. A hole actively contributed and created by the offense. Last week Dak contributed to two turnovers. I won't count the last interception because that was a last gasp effort of throw it up and hope someone catches it. The week before against Atlanta he fumbles, Zeke fumbles and Schultz fumbles. So yea, part of our issues were contributed by Dak. Is he the entire problem? No. Has he helped dig us out sure. Was he partially responsible for putting us into the hole...also yes.

And who put us in that hole. Defense defense defense

 

[Whirlwin]

Two weeks in a row, the Cowboys have had to dig out of a hole. A hole actively contributed and created by the offense. Last week Dak contributed to two turnovers. I won't count the last interception because that was a last gasp effort of throw it up and hope someone catches it. The week before against Atlanta he fumbles, Zeke fumbles and Schultz fumbles. So yea, part of our issues were contributed by Dak. Is he the entire problem? No. Has he helped dig us out sure. Was he partially responsible for putting us into the hole...also yes.

There’s nothing wrong with this offense. Compared to defense. to coaching decisions different we win

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

And who put us in that hole. Defense defense defense

So the defense gave the Seahawks and Falcons short fields? Yea the defense is crappy - we all knew this going in. How exactly does that absolve the offense of their mistakes?

 

[aria]

Hello? Is anybody out there?
RB is a position where the player is not going to be successful without a decent OL. If you don’t believe that, look at the last two seasons for Barkley in NY. With our OL decimated and no legit backups, no one should be surprised if Zeke and Dak both struggled. I’m sure the team had plans to use Zeke and Pollard better in the passing game, but with our OT situation, Zeke’s blocking is needed more than Pollard’s versatility, and Zeke has to be the predictable outlet for short yardage when the protection breaks down, so no getting downfield.

It’s like the stupid comments about pushing the ball downfield last game instead of the short passes On the final drive. You take the safest route to scoring position with only 1 timeout where a sack may end the game. I actually thought the final drive was masterful considering where we started and the time on the clock. We were right where we needed to be, on time, with a TO, before the OL fell apart with a penalty and poor blocking vs the 3 man rush.

I was never a fan of drafting Zeke so high, never a fan of giving him a huge salary during his holdout, but I am a fan of his as our RB. With our OL and defense in the first 3 games, Zeke is part of the reason Dak and the receivers have had success. His numbers are irrelevant.

Yeah, look at Barkley’s first two seasons behind one of the worst O lines in the league. His first year he had more all purpose yards than zeke and his second he missed 3 games, played the majority of the season with a high ankle sprain, still got over 1K yards and had a similar ypc avg as zeke.

He sucks as a blocker but imagine what he could have done running behind the same line zeke has had.

 

[Whirlwin]

So the defense gave the Seahawks and Falcons short fields? Yea the defense is crappy - we all knew this going in. How exactly does that absolve the offense of their mistakes?

It doesn’t. It’s the entire team that’s what I’m saying but everybody wants to put it on Prescott. I think he’s been a bright spot

 

[America's Cowboy]

I didn't say that he can't, I'm saying that he struggles at taking snaps under center and he sucks at it. This is his 5th year in the league - as a rookie sure, I get it, there is a massive leap from college to the pros. I will even give him a pass for his first 3 years because hey, he's a 4th round pick, needs time to hone his craft. But last year and this year with the same thing? That is one part of his game that hasn't improved along with his awareness for a collapsing pocket. But due to that limitation it also limits play action, and why Zeke is taking so many hand offs from the shotgun.

You are so full of baloney. Did Dak look like he had problems taking the football from under Center in the highlights video I posted? Of course not. You're simply making up BS in order to support your warped accusation.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Don’t bother. People make anything up.

If Dak is so bad why doesn’t every QB have 5000 + yards and 30 TDs a season?

Yes, that poster is showing some serious signs of making stuff up.

 

[Direwolf63]

This is utterly asinine. We’ve only played three games and two of them, Zeke was over 4 YPC. Game 3 obfuscated the stats, because it’s one game of 3. If you look on a game to game basis, the stats don’t convey this subjective cut off point of 10 and 10, especially since Zeke has two games of 22 carries each and this last one, he had 17. These Twitter stats reveal more about how cluelessly subjective people are in the numbers they try to make a case than anything else.

Dak had three TOs in the last game and should have had 4, because a DB dropped an easy INT right in his chest in what would have been Seattle scoring territory, and maybe5 on his bone-headed toss to his right, where there was nobody but multiple Seattle defenders, when he was spun around and about to get sacked in Dallas own territory once again.

And play action and the threat of Zeke in the backfield, “despite Zeke sucking” is still the only pass Dak does well, because defenses load the box and this mediocrity sees one safety all day. Dak is operating out of shotgun on first down regularly with Zeke in the backfield, which explains the ‘success of passing’ on that down. That’s the only real difference between Linehan and Moore, where Linehan ran it more on first than Moore. The QB is a joke.

The point about the RG is to force defenses into looks that the passing game should be able to exploit, which it still does because of “the king of inefficiency”. It’s not Zeke’s fault he has a mediocre QB.

It sure didn't take long for you to turn this into a Dak trashing thread.

Your agenda is tiring

 

[Creeper]

As someone who has stated many times that Zeke is not the RB he was in 2016, and that he is deteriorating as a player year over year, this post is all wrong. Zeke actually does look better this year than last. It is very noticeable.

I cannot imagine anyone thinking that with both starting offensive tackles out, and replaced by UDFAs, that it would not effect the RG. Zeke is only so-so as a receiver out of the backfield but as a running back, he looks like he means to play this year.

 

[CowboysLegend365]

You dudes are weird. Zeke was by far our best player in the first two games.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

You dudes are weird. Zeke was by far our best player in the first two games.

Lol the guy who had three fumbles was, in a game when our QB had 450 yards, was our best player?

Bro you're goofy

 

[Naruto]

Without the homerun threat anymore Zeke is pretty much a luxury player wholly dependent on good blocking and a balanced offense that forces defenses to play honest.

This isn't worth anything close to his contract as these kinds of players are literally a dime a dozen in today's NFL

 

[aria]

You dudes are weird. Zeke was by far our best player in the first two games.

Lol, fumbling the ball twice on 3 carries which resulted in the other team getting a TD is our best? We’re in trouble.

4 ypc and 86 yards should never be the “best” unless you’re facing the best defense of all time. That was an average performance.

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

This is why we continue to lose.

WHO CARES!?!

Dallas, again, doesn’t need to focus on offense. Who CARES if Zeke is ranked last. WHO CARES if Dak is ranked last. If we win, we win. Other teams don’t care about stats other than wins.

I find it funny that everyone here claims the players and the team cares too much about little stuff like stats, and that the team is too “Hollywood”. But look at yourselves. All dolled up in glitter and glam, worried about this stat, and that stat, and this person, and that person, and gossip on this, and gossip on that. STOP!!!

Just like Jerry, we’re worried about something else and not addressing the issue, which so far, is the defense. Can we address that first before going all Hammer time on Zeke’s stupid 4 yards or whatever y’all are talking about?!?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Without the homerun threat anymore Zeke is pretty much a luxury player wholly dependent on good blocking and a balanced offense that forces defenses to play honest.

This isn't worth anything close to his contract as these kinds of players are literally a dime a dozen in today's NFL

 

[dckid]

I don't hate Dak. I think he is a QB who you can win games with provided you have enough talent around him - on defense and on offense to cover up his short comings. What you cannot do is pay him like Patrick Mahomes and then watch your franchise struggle to 5-11 for the next 5 - 6 years while you are wondering why the Cowboys don't have any talent on defense.

Don’t ever confuse me for a Dak guy. We use to play the cards we are dealt. I wish we could have signed Foles.
Last off-season I said don’t pay Dak more than 23 million a year...He is a good qb that’s it. He will never be a top tier guy but god qb’s get paid. Look at Kirk Cousins. He is the dictionary definition of average to good. Got the first fully guaranteed contract, 80 million plus over three years, the Vikings just extended for even more money.. I don’t blame Dak for wanting it. Everyone here would want the money.
If we had a great FO, I would say let’s save 40 million a year and find the next guy, but sadly we don’t.

 

[dckid]

Great insight by the way. I’m being serious, not sarcastic.

Thanks