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Then why is it that ESPN's own draft guide had Watkins as #1 six overall rated safety, projected as a third round pick.
 

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The Fasano pick ontop of the Ryan Hannam signing might be the worst pick we've made since Rod Hill.
 

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Kiper is just mad because when didn't pick Jason Allen or Jimmy Williams like he predicted
 

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X-Dawg said:
No Kiper is dead on - Dallas missed the boat on Draft Day - we had and still have a massive hole at cover safety - Fasano was an asinine choice.
WOW. Just wow. That is so far off the mark I don't know what else to say.
 

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X-Dawg said:
The Fasano pick ontop of the Ryan Hannam signing might be the worst pick we've made since Rod Hill.

Dude, don't you understand that we needed a starting quality TE opposite Witten for what we're going to do and that Hannam wasn't that guy?

Why is that so hard for some people to grasp? There was a hole there. Just becuase you thought there wasn't doesn't make it so.

Clearly Parcells disagreed with you and took a very highly rated player that will really help the offense.
 

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Yeah, I heard Mel Kiper say that about the Cowboys not addressing free safety.

I assumed that Kiper just made a mistake - misspoke.

I'd guess that Kiper was surprised that the Cowboys didn't draft higher rated OL (pre 7th rounds).
 

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The irony is many would have loved Ko Simpson in the second round, calling it a "value" pick, yet he's a guy that slid all the way to Day 2.
 

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X-Dawg said:
The Fasano pick ontop of the Ryan Hannam signing might be the worst pick we've made since Rod Hill.

No offense, but you should attempt to have a grasp of what is going on before making such absurd comments.

You don't have to like the pick, but clearly, there is a need for a second tight end considering the new direction of the offense.
 

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Dale said:
The irony is many would have loved Ko Simpson in the second round, calling it a "value" pick, yet he's a guy that slid all the way to Day 2.
So true
 

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I liked him a lot coming in, but since he slid so far, I'm wondering if I seriously overrated him. I prefer the tall, rangy centerfield-type of free safeties (Michael Downs was a favorite of mine).

Since Dallas moved up to get him, that makes me feel a little better.

His size makes him an unusual player and I'm not sure some teams knew what to do with him. With his long legs, he may not have the quickness to cover the slot receiver or match up one-on-one with little guys, but he can certainly patrol deep and keep a lot of the crap that happened last year from happening again.

Agreed. Watching his tape, you got the sense that he wasn't the quickest guy, as you would see AFTER he picked off the ball, and I emphasize AFTER because he made the pick.

He's got real nice leaping ability, and on teh highlite tape (which is obviously only going to show you his best plays), he comes up with the jump balls. He also does a good job reading the QB, and then jumping a route. Dont hang too many up there over the middle, cuz he'll bring em in.

Decent tackler, made a few big hits from what I saw, but fundamentally he's pretty sound. Draft bio says he could move to LB, well he wont for us, but I dont see it in him either way. Being so tall, he looks like a more compact player might be hard for him to bring down. Wraps up nicely though, so if he is going for a stop, he'll definately slow down, if not bring down the ball carrier. Marcus Coleman has me a bit less worried if this pick doesnt pan out.
 

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"Ourlads" had Pat Watkins the 4th best free safety by a wide margin over guys like Roman Harper, Nate Salley, Anthony Smith and Calvin Lowry.

They had him projected to go to Dallas in the second round at pick #49.

Mel's f'ed up.
 

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Dale said:
No offense, but you should attempt to have a grasp of what is going on before making such absurd comments.

You don't have to like the pick, but clearly, there is a need for a second tight end considering the new direction of the offense.
Grasp? I've been a Cowboys fan longer then you've been alive - - There was no need for Hananam then and a waste of CAP space. Change in offense? what would that be? You really buy a change? Jerry said that b/c he had nothing else to say . There's no change, we lost LA and we IMO we still cannot run the football b/c we lack the headbangers required up front -WHICH BRINGS ME TO my next point Carpenter was another poor pick when the obvious need was Nick Mangold. We have not had a true top flight horse in the middle since Step and old man Donaldson. IMO Center and Safety is where we should have gone.

Discuss...."no offense"
 

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X-Dawg said:
Grasp? I've been a Cowboys fan longer then you've been alive - - There was no need for Hananam then and a waste of CAP space. Change in offense? what would that be? You really buy a change? Jerry said that b/c he had nothing else to say . There's no change, we lost LA and we IMO we still cannot run the football b/c we lack the headbangers required up front -WHICH BRINGS ME TO my next point Carpenter was another poor pick when the obvious need was Nick Mangold. We have not had a true top flight horse in the middle since Step and old man Donaldson. IMO Center and Safety is where we should have gone.

Discuss...."no offense"

So you REALLY think they drafted a guy they dont need and are just covering ? Thats what you really believe? The guy who fired Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson, and hired the hated T.O. is trying to cover or make excuses for a signing .....

What does "******" mean?
 

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can't believe he didnt even have Laron landry in his top 10 for next year ...
 

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X-Dawg said:
Grasp? I've been a Cowboys fan longer then you've been alive - - There was no need for Hananam then and a waste of CAP space. Change in offense? what would that be? You really buy a change? Jerry said that b/c he had nothing else to say . There's no change, we lost LA and we IMO we still cannot run the football b/c we lack the headbangers required up front -WHICH BRINGS ME TO my next point Carpenter was another poor pick when the obvious need was Nick Mangold. We have not had a true top flight horse in the middle since Step and old man Donaldson. IMO Center and Safety is where we should have gone.

Discuss...."no offense"

I'm guessing that if Jerry and Bill thought center was such a hole they would have done something about it. But alas, that was not the case.
 
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