Kiper Mock 2.0 2/21/18

[Chuck 54]

Even if you bring back Hitchins, Lee, and Smith, you damn well better find at least one other LB in the first 3 rounds or free agency....2 is better.
You have to draft or sign a DT; he doesn't have to be a beast in round 1, just a run stuffer for depth....between Collins, Irving, and there are other potentials. I actually liked what I saw of Ash last season, and he's a big boy. We have our biggest need at LB, not at DT if they're all healthy.

 

[Risen Star]

In all my time of watching football I've never been so embarrassed for a player as I was Jaylon last year when he was forced into action. Wilbur, Wilson, Durant......

Lee is still fantastic but is a day to day player. You can't trust him to be on the field. Jaylon is permanently injured. I wouldn't give a conditional 7th for any other LB on the roster.

 

[Risen Star]

And who ever does nfl.com has him at 15

That's Lance Zierlein.

 

[Avery]

If I'm CLE, I'm doing everything I can to trade down and walk out of Dallas with about 10 picks in the first three rounds.

 

[Bigdog]

I would take that if the draft fell that way.

 

[USMarineVet]

Surprised Kiper was contemplating Hurst in the 1st. I value Kiper's opinion but Hurst can be had in the 2nd if we decide to move up and have a trading partner. I haven't done a great deal of homework on him, (until now) but he looks pretty good. I would take him in a trade down scenario if we could grab and extra 4th.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Kiper has been both caught and continually accused of pushing players of his agent friends.

He is flat awful.

Josh Allen is not going number one....in any year.
Kolton Miller at 12??? ***???

 

[Oh_Canada]

Hey look, more Joe Fan nonsense.

Waiting for the proof.

Are you related?

The guy is brutal.

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

18. Seattle Seahawks - Derwin James S Florida State

Yuck

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

32. Philadelphia Eagles - Christian Kirk WR Texas A&M

I hope so lol

 

[waving monkey]

 

[atlantacowboy]

Kiper has been both caught and continually accused of pushing players of his agent friends.

That is simply devoid of any truth.

 

[atlantacowboy]

There was an audio recording a few years back. It was all over the news when it happened.He's been linked to Gary Wichard and other agents and some players (Lawrence Jackson) have gone public as well.

I'll try to find a link. I know he's your hero, and he's the reason why most of us are so passionate about the draft, but don't overlook his flaws because of it.

Kiper is shunned by most NFL GMs and therefore has no choice but to tap into his contacts for information about players. There isn't another draft guru more honest than Kiper about his mistakes. In fact, every year he publishes a list of his biggest misses. Who else does that?

 

[KingintheNorth]

That is simply devoid of any truth.

He wasn't officially caught but there were several, several accusations.

How is that devoid of any truth?

Fanboys will defend their heroes til the end.

 

[atlantacowboy]

He wasn't officially caught but there were several, several accusations.

How is that devoid of any truth?

Fanboys will defend their heroes til the end.

In what universe is an accusation the same as a fact? Accusations are not truth. Pretty simple concept here.

 

[Hardline]

Barkley and Vea are in our division now.

Wonderful

 

[stilltheguru88]

I wanted Evans awhile ago and I still think he’ll be very good in the nfl but we NEED Payne.

 

[Floatyworm]

He is flat awful.

Josh Allen is not going number one....in any year.
Kolton Miller at 12??? ***???

Thank you....I'm reading this thread....and I'm wondering...can someone please state the obvious???? Has the Zone completely whiffed on this?

Kolton Miller...I just don't see it....I've got him rated as a 3rd rounder....typical Packer pickup...will probably play 6-7 years for them...will be ok...not great.

Anyway....Kiper has a bunch of guys in that mock that makes me think he's losing it. I just don't see Kiper grinding on tape like he used to. He's made a name for himself...so why should he put in the time?

 

[Risen Star]

Surprised Kiper was contemplating Hurst in the 1st. I value Kiper's opinion but Hurst can be had in the 2nd if we decide to move up and have a trading partner. I haven't done a great deal of homework on him, (until now) but he looks pretty good. I would take him in a trade down scenario if we could grab and extra 4th.

There is zero consensus on this TE class. People are all over the map with it because there really isn't a true first round talent in the group.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

If I'm CLE, I'm doing everything I can to trade down and walk out of Dallas with about 10 picks in the first three rounds.

Well, they got 6, and eventually I think they need to cash in on the high picks. Trading back will likely result in a better team in 2018, but if they believe there are impact players on the board, that may not be the case after trading back.