Kirk Cousins better than Romo? Puh-leaze

[GimmeTheBall!]

Doubt it.

So, then, undoubtedly, Romo is better.
But, for the long run, I think Cousins will have a better run. With an injury, Romo could easily exit this season or midseason.

 

[KJJ]

A lot of Barbers opinion is based on last season and Cousins clearly had a better year than Romo. It's what have you done lately and Cousins had the better year and has the brighter future because he has time on his side. The last time we saw Romo on the field he was suffering a meltdown vs Carolina and it ended with him being knocked out for the season. Cousins arrow is pointing up while Romo's is pointing down.

Based on what the Cowboys offered to try and move up for Lynch in the draft they likely would have taken Goff or Wentz had either QB been available at #4 overall. Romo's best days are behind him and the clock is ticking, while Cousin's best days appear to be ahead of him. The tendency is to live in the moment and at the moment it's Cousins.

 

[KJJ]

Let's be honest if you had a choice between a 27 year old Cousins and an injury prone 36 year old Romo who would you pick? Cousins has gotten better every year and has his whole career ahead of him. He had a terrific year statistically last season check his stats and he led the Commanders to the playoffs. Romo has been an excellent QB for the Cowboys over his career but age and injuries are catching up with him. If I had the opportunity to get a QB who's 9 years younger and could be on the brink of being one of the better QBs in the league I'm not passing up the opportunity.

I know we all hate the Commanders but that's not going stop me from being honest about their QB. I'm still not completely sold on Cousins but he has improved every year and if I could have him over Romo I would do it in a heartbeat based on his youth and the development he's shown the past few seasons. Cousins wasn't handed anything in Washington he had earned it with all that the Commanders gave up for RG3. They were in the same draft class and Cousins beat him out.

 

[KJJ]

Even in the 4 games Romo played last season it wasn't very good. His passer rating was only 79.4 and he had a 5-7 TD to turnover ratio. Cousins on the other hand had a passer rating of 101.6 and a 29-11 TD to turnover ratio and that was without a great running game. Anytime a player comes off a rough season that involved injuries especially an older player they have to reestablish themselves and prove they still have it. Cousins had the better year by a long shot and his youth and health gives him a big advantage over Romo going forward. Cousins is still developing and improving which makes him so appealing

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Let's be honest if you had a choice between a 27 year old Cousins and an injury prone 36 year old Romo who would you pick? Cousins has gotten better every year and has his whole career ahead of him. He had a terrific year statistically last season check his stats and he led the Commanders to the playoffs. Romo has been an excellent QB for the Cowboys over his career but age and injuries are catching up with him. If I had the opportunity to get a QB who's 9 years younger and could be on the brink of being one of the better QBs in the league I'm not passing up the opportunity.

I know we all hate the Commanders but that's not going stop me from being honest about their QB. I'm still not completely sold on Cousins but he has improved every year and if I could have him over Romo I would do it in a heartbeat based on his youth and the development he's shown the past few seasons. Cousins wasn't handed anything in Washington he had earned it with all that the Commanders gave up for RG3. They were in the same draft class and Cousins beat him out.

If I were picking a quarterback for this year, I would pick Romo because I think he can bounce back to the statistically great 2014 playoff year. I see your point, though. If I were picking a QB for the future, it would be Cousins. He might develop into an elite QB, but then again he might wash out like so many Commanders QBs have lately.

 

[KJJ]

If I were picking a quarterback for this year, I would pick Romo because I think he can bounce back to the statistically great 2014 playoff year. I see your point, though. If I were picking a QB for the future, it would be Cousins. He might develop into an elite QB, but then again he might wash out like so many Commanders QBs have lately.

If you were picking a QB for this year you would be taking a big risk with Romo because he's missed games the last three seasons with injuries. That's the biggest concern we have with him right now is if he can stay healthy. What makes Cousins different than some of the other QBs Washington has had is he continues to develop and improve each year.

Some of the other QBs Washington has used over the years they basically had to use them like Rex Grossman because they had nothing at the position. It's not like those other QBs "earned" the job they basically got it by default. Cousins clearly earned the job and it got the QB the Commanders gave up the farm for a few years ago sent packing.

 

[DFWJC]

Even in the 4 games Romo played last season it wasn't very good. His passer rating was only 79.4 and he had a 5-7 TD to turnover ratio. Cousins on the other hand had a passer rating of 101.6 and a 29-11 TD to turnover ratio and that was without a great running game. Anytime a player comes off a rough season that involved injuries especially an older player they have to reestablish themselves and prove they still have it. Cousins had the better year by a long shot and his youth and health gives him a big advantage over Romo going forward. Cousins is still developing and improving which makes him so appealing

Not really arguing about Cousins here, but surely you realize that only about 1 1/2 game of Romo's year last year was healthy.

• The first game he had a 103 QB rating and 356 yards, and a game-winning drive and pass.
• He got hurt the next game while we were up 13-0 vs Philly and that was it.
• He came back to try to help the team but no way he was himself

 

[KJJ]

Not really arguing about Cousins here, but surely you realize that only about 1 1/2 game of Romo's year last year was healthy.

He was healthy enough to come back to play. His collarbone wasn't fully healed but that's not what caused the INT's he was throwing. His collarbone not being fully healed isn't what caused his meltdown against Carolina.

 

[DFWJC]

He was healthy enough to come back to play. His collarbone wasn't fully healed but that's not what caused the INT's he was throwing. His collarbone not being fully healed isn't what caused his meltdown against Carolina.

You can think that is you want, be no way he was the same player when he returned.
He was not physically right and he was playing not to get hurt....which a terrible way to play, especially if you play his style.
So I don't think he was right mentally or physically.
But hey...jmo

 

[dfense]

I think a better question for Tiki is "Was she worth it? "

 

[DeaconMoss]

LOL. I didn't realize he did that.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...inup-wife-days-divorcing-mother-children.html

 

[KJJ]

You can think that is you want, be no way he was the same player when he returned.
He was not physically right and he was playing not to get hurt....which a terrible way to play, especially if you play his style.
So I don't think he was right mentally or physically.
But hey...jmo

He was the same player but the team he returned to wasn't the same. He left a 2-0 team and returned to a 2-7 team that needed to be carried. There wasn't anything that was hindering Romo's performance physically or he wouldn't have been on the field he was just a little rusty. He was having to carry the offense and it caught up with him against an excellent Carolina team. We couldn't run the ball and Romo started to press.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

He was the same player but the team he returned to wasn't the same. He left a 2-0 team and returned to a 2-7 team that needed to be carried. There wasn't anything that was hindering Romo's performance physically or he wouldn't have been on the field he was just a little rusty. He was having to carry the offense and it caught up with him against an excellent Carolina team. We couldn't run the ball and Romo started to press.

You're way off. Romo wasn't even remotely himself when he came back to play. It's true that the team wasn't either. He came back to a team that needed rescuing. As the quick-witted improvising Romo that we've come to know, he may have had a shot at it, a remote one, but a shot. He came back a shell of himself in a desperate attempt to salvage the season. He's had an offseason to heal up now, and, hence, there's a good chance he'll be back to his old self. I'm not drinking Jerry's Kool-Aid that says he can play 5 more years. IMO that's nonsense, but I think he can not only play, but be excellent this season.

Btw, Cousins is not the only Washington QB to earn the starting job in recent history. RG3 certainly earned it in his first season with the team. He had a great year and lead the team to the playoffs. While that's what he was drafted to do, the team would not have stuck with him if he had been awful. Remember, San Diego pulled Ryan Leaf when he underperformed, despite having traded to move up and take him. RG3 appeared to have what it takes, then for whatever reason he was unable to keep his quality of play as high in subsequent seasons.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

You're way off. Romo wasn't even remotely himself when he came back to play. It's true that the team wasn't either. He came back to a team that needed rescuing. As the quick-witted improvising Romo that we've come to know, he may have had a shot at it, a remote one, but a shot. He came back a shell of himself in a desperate attempt to salvage the season. He's had an offseason to heal up now, and, hence, there's a good chance he'll be back to his old self. I'm not drinking Jerry's Kool-Aid that says he can play 5 more years. IMO that's nonsense, but I think he can not only play, but be excellent this season.

Btw, Cousins is not the only Washington QB to earn the starting job in recent history. RG3 certainly earned it in his first season with the team. He had a great year and lead the team to the playoffs. While that's what he was drafted to do, the team would not have stuck with him if he had been awful. Remember, San Diego pulled Ryan Leaf when he underperformed, despite having traded to move up and take him. RG3 appeared to have what it takes, then for whatever reason he was unable to keep his quality of play as high in subsequent seasons.

Romo never looked right when he came back. I think the Cowboys rushed him and he probably wouldn't have started again if the NFC East hadn't been so bad that we still had a chance. The same with Dez.I do think we need to look for Romo's successor and fast because nobody knows how long he has or if he will be the same. Cousins looks like a backup to me. He can win you some games but he's not the long term solution. The Commanders always think they have the next sure thing and it never pans out. I never thought RG3 would last long either and he didn't. Don't think he's going to survive in Cleveland either.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

So, then, undoubtedly, Romo is better.
But, for the long run, I think Cousins will have a better run. With an injury, Romo could easily exit this season or midseason.

so could Cousins.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

so could Cousins.

Are you confusing a 27-year-old QB to one who will turn . . .what, 36 soon?
Comparing a QB who has a recent history of injuries and surgeries to one who is relatively healthy?
Are you?

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Romo never looked right when he came back. I think the Cowboys rushed him and he probably wouldn't have started again if the NFC East hadn't been so bad that we still had a chance. The same with Dez.I do think we need to look for Romo's successor and fast because nobody knows how long he has or if he will be the same. Cousins looks like a backup to me. He can win you some games but he's not the long term solution. The Commanders always think they have the next sure thing and it never pans out. I never thought RG3 would last long either and he didn't. Don't think he's going to survive in Cleveland either.

It's really hard to say with Cousins. He's played some good football and deserves his props for that. If he keeps developing he could become an upper level quarterback. On the other hand, if he's plateaued and is already at his best, then I agree with you. That would make him a career backup. I can say I would rather have him backing up Romo than anyone we have. What I think is at this point right now, the Commanders don't have the advantage of the best QB in the NFC East. Both Romo and Eli Manning are better, and it's unknown how well Wentz of the Eagles will do in the NFL, despite how good he was in college.

 

[KJJ]

You're way off. Romo wasn't even remotely himself when he came back to play. It's true that the team wasn't either. He came back to a team that needed rescuing. As the quick-witted improvising Romo that we've come to know, he may have had a shot at it, a remote one, but a shot. He came back a shell of himself in a desperate attempt to salvage the season. He's had an offseason to heal up now, and, hence, there's a good chance he'll be back to his old self. I'm not drinking Jerry's Kool-Aid that says he can play 5 more years. IMO that's nonsense, but I think he can not only play, but be excellent this season.

Btw, Cousins is not the only Washington QB to earn the starting job in recent history. RG3 certainly earned it in his first season with the team. He had a great year and lead the team to the playoffs. While that's what he was drafted to do, the team would not have stuck with him if he had been awful. Remember, San Diego pulled Ryan Leaf when he underperformed, despite having traded to move up and take him. RG3 appeared to have what it takes, then for whatever reason he was unable to keep his quality of play as high in subsequent seasons.

I'm not even a little off he was rusty when he came back from missing 7 straight games. He wasn't sharp and didn't have a healthy Dez Bryant. Dez was the one who wasn't right upon returning he clearly was rushed back and wasn't healthy. Romo is never going to be what he was prior to all the injuries he's suffered the past 3 years. Age and reoccurring injuries are a bad combination for any player. With his age and all the injuries that caused him to miss games 3 straight seasons decline may not be far behind. We may have started seeing some decline last season we'll just have to see if he can bounce back and play well this season. The addition of Zeke and Morris should help him but the clock is ticking on Romo which is why the Cowboys made a strong attempt to trade up for Paxton Lynch.

As for RG3 he was penciled in as the starter the day the Commanders gave up the farm for him. Shanahan who was asked immediately after the draft if RG3 would be the starter confirmed he would be, saying you don't give up all those picks and not have him as your starter. He clearly played better than the QBs they had his rookie year but he was going to be the starter regardless. They would still be trying to get him back to the form he showed as a rookie if it hadn't been for his attitude and Cousins solid play. They kept trying to make it work with Patrick Ramsey for 4 years despite average to poor play because they invested a first round pick in him and had nothing else but an aging Mark Brunell, Tim Hasselbeck, Shane Matthews, Danny Wuerffel and the list goes on.

They did the same thing with Jason Campbell for 5 years despite average to poor play because they invested a first round pick in him and had nothing else but Todd Collins, Brunell and Ramsey who they gave up on. As for Ryan Leaf getting pulled in San Diego he was a head case who went toe to toe in a shouting match with Bobby Beathard the teams GM. He was shouting at the GM, teammates, fans and reporters there's plenty of reasons he got pulled and shipped out. I don't care how much you give up for a player when you have the kind of problems Leaf was giving San Diego you have to cut your losses. Had he had a good attitude and was able to handle the ups and downs of being a young QB they likely would have stayed with him trying to develop him but he couldn't handle the adversity or scrutiny he was under.

 

[KJJ]

It's really hard to say with Cousins. He's played some good football and deserves his props for that. If he keeps developing he could become an upper level quarterback. On the other hand, if he's plateaued and is already at his best, then I agree with you. That would make him a career backup.

You're saying I'm way off? LOL So if last season is as good as it gets with Cousins and he continues to put up the same exact numbers he put up last season for the rest of his career that would make him a career backup? You better go check his numbers those were starting caliber numbers he put up last season. He completed almost 70% of his passes for almost 4200 yards and had 29 TDs with a passer rating of 101.6 and you think those are career backup numbers???

 

[Techsass]

Forget Tiki. Mr. I'm so smart. How many years did it take him to realize that you're supposed to hang onto the ball? And that took TC figuring out little gimmicks to drum it into his head.

Cousins has an upside chance. The rest of the team wasn't exactly stellar, which is why they couldn't beat anybody with a winning record. I don't think that was because of Cousins.

I'll still take Romo in an either/or debate - even as they are right now.