Koren Robinson arrested

Nav22 said:
Well, you don't have to show "sympathy" necessarily, but I'd hope people wouldn't be so quick to judge the guy.

Seeing as how, ya know... none of us know ANYTHING about him personally, really, other than the fact that he's a WR for the Minnesota Vikings.
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My sister was killed by a drunk driver so excuse my vehemence.

The fact that this guy has the job of his dreams, is financially secure, talented, famous to a certain extent and yet STILL chooses to be a drunk driving idiot makes me feel even MORE scorn for his sorry butt! "It's a disease." No, it's a weakness and you are putting other lives at risk because of your inability to overcome your weakness.
 
BrAinPaiNt said:
I may sound like a jerk here...but I have no sympathy what so ever for him.

DWI one time maybe...twice No go for me.
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me either...I cant believe some of the reactions here, people feeling sorry for him and stuff

this guy is a total thug loser...he's lucky he didnt kill some innocent people...should be locked up for a long time but probably wont be

David
 
Tass said:
My sister was killed by a drunk driver so excuse my vehemence.

The fact that this guy has the job of his dreams, is financially secure, talented, famous to a certain extent and yet STILL chooses to be a drunk driving idiot makes me feel even MORE scorn for his sorry butt! "It's a disease." No, it's a weakness and you are putting other lives at risk because of your inability to overcome your weakness.
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i'm more inclined to the "weakness" side of things and i've "been there, done that". however, would you feel better if the person driving were on the phone vs. drunk? i see that used a LOT as an excuse as well these days.
 
iceberg said:
i'm more inclined to the "weakness" side of things and i've "been there, done that". however, would you feel better if the person driving were on the phone vs. drunk? i see that used a LOT as an excuse as well these days.
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Being on the phone, having a smoke or drinking a can of soda is a lot less impairing/dangerous than being drunk. None of those is ideal, of course, but I'd definitely have to classify 'drunk' as the most egregious offender of that bunch.
 
Tass said:
Being on the phone, having a smoke or drinking a can of soda is a lot less impairing/dangerous than being drunk. None of those is ideal, of course, but I'd definitely have to classify 'drunk' as the most egregious offender of that bunch.
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i think when you're behind the wheel, you have 1 thing and ONLY 1 thing to do - get safely from point A to point B. if you have a hands free phone or one of the bluetooth earpieces then it's about the same as listening to the radio. if you've got hte old style shrug your shoulder up and watch out for it sliding down - STAY OFF THE PHONE.

i'd be just as furious is a "cell phone user" caused me to be in an accident as i would a drunk. if you want to drink, call a cab or have a driver. if you want to talk, pull over.
 
I don't think there is an excuse for any of this. Robinson will have his day in court and will be held accoutable in whatever manner the law sees fit. That is fine. However, I will say that the guy clearly has a problem. He seems to lack the ability to control his drink. That is a problem but I do think it's silly to believe that this guy is somehow going to kick the habbit and show good judgement in the space of a year or however many months. Was he wrong? Sure he was but I ask, how silly is it to expect him to be recovered at this point in his addiction? This is not an overnite thing. You never fully recover and it is always there. Could he have killed someone? Sure, could have happened but all of us do things everyday that are a bit irresponsible. Not saying it should be held to the same standard but I am saying that falling down in recovery of this is not uncommen. It happens more often then not. It happens to guys who are trying to stay out of situations where they could be vulnerable to drink. I can imagine that a pro athlete might even face more adversity in this area. In the end, it is his fault for the decisions he makes but it is unrealistic to expect the guy to be able to kick this thing straight away. It is going to take some time. He is going to fall down and maybe it means an end to his football career but if that's what it takes, then that's what it takes. Better to give that up then his life or someone else's. I have pitty for the guy. He has a tough problem and a lot of work ahead. I understand that. I don't neccesarily condon it but I do understand.
 
I wonder how ESPN will spin this given how they just played his turn around up and how he's reformed... They were gushing all over themselves to say what a great job he's done... Will probably just be a one or two sentence deal. Now had it been one of the Cowboys, then it would have been a 5 minute segment.....
 
lol at people calling him stupid.

or even what he did stupid.

clearly the guy has a problem, it has gone beyond stupid to a disease now and I wish him the best and hope he sorts himself out.
 
Dayton_Cowboy said:
I wonder how ESPN will spin this given how they just played his turn around up and how he's reformed... They were gushing all over themselves to say what a great job he's done... Will probably just be a one or two sentence deal. Now had it been one of the Cowboys, then it would have been a 5 minute segment.....
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Seattle got him due to the galloway trade so I'm sure ESPN will say "The WR that could have been a Dallas Cowboy got popped in a DWI" :lmao:
 
BrAinPaiNt said:
Or just someone who is sober to drive for him.
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I don't trust designated drivers they tend to sneak drinks when no one is looking. After all if you are sober and hanging out with a bunch of drunks that really sucks.:laugh1:
 
Tass said:
M"It's a disease." No, it's a weakness and you are putting other lives at risk because of your inability to overcome your weakness.
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Agreed.

It is a "weakness," IMO.

Everyone has a weakness. It may be drugs, lust, a violent temper ... whatever. How you deal with it and how you protect yourself from it is what's important.
 
BrAinPaiNt said:
Or just someone who is sober to drive for him.
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Problem is the character profile that makes up a guy like Robinson. He's obsesive compulsive but he's also got a god complex. Because he's a pro athlete, not only does he probably do everything to excess but he also believes he's bullet proof. You have to have this belief to be able to succeed in the competative world that is pro sports. Don't miss understand. I'm not say it's OK or even that I condon it. Only that I understand why he is doing what he is doing. He control the drink so the drink only serves to accentuate the characteristics of his makeup that compound the problem. Once the drink goes in, the other traits only become more pronounced and it becomes impossible for him to give the keys up or believe that he needs to be using a driver or taking a cab. Again, not a good thing at all but it is probably pretty close to what's going on once he gets his drink on.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
Problem is the character profile that makes up a guy like Robinson. He's obsesive compulsive but he's also got a god complex. Because he's a pro athlete, not only does he probably do everything to excess but he also believes he's bullet proof. You have to have this belief to be able to succeed in the competative world that is pro sports. Don't miss understand. I'm not say it's OK or even that I condon it. Only that I understand why he is doing what he is doing. He control the drink so the drink only serves to accentuate the characteristics of his makeup that compound the problem. Once the drink goes in, the other traits only become more pronounced and it becomes impossible for him to give the keys up or believe that he needs to be using a driver or taking a cab. Again, not a good thing at all but it is probably pretty close to what's going on once he gets his drink on.
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True but then again it is his choice and because he choose wrong he deserves the punshisment that goes with it.
 
Chief said:
Agreed.

It is a "weakness," IMO.

Everyone has a weakness. It may be drugs, lust, a violent temper ... whatever. How you deal with it and how you protect yourself from it is what's important.
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i had to fight my own way through it and it is an addiction. period. when you want to quit, you will. you'll hate life for a week or so while you get *out* of the addiction and from there it's up to you to be responsible with it or stop compeltely if you can't.
 
Doomsday101 said:
True but then again it is his choice and because he choose wrong he deserves the punshisment that goes with it.
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Well, I do agree. In fact, I'm pretty sure I said that earlier. His day in court will come. Having said that, it's still a pretty tough thing for him to overcome, I would guess. He's been conditioned his whole life to believe there is nothing he can't do. He's been trained to do everything full out, as hard as you can possibly go. It carries over into his drink.

I can not say strongly enough that I do agree, it is wrong. He should be made to be responsible for his choices.

However, I understand and I have compassion for the guy as a human being who obviously has a problem he can not control by himself and a life long set of personality traits that are only going to make it more difficult for him to kick it. Many of those traits passed on to him buy his life in sports.

It's a tough thing.
 
InmanRoshi said:
Hopefully he won't show up drunk for his court date this time.
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Yes, hopefully, he won't. However, if he does, I won't be surprised.
 
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