Kurt Warner Breaks Down Dak and the Offense

[buybuydandavis]

I like the Kurt Warner breakdowns.

He made some good points.

Warner talking about it also reveals flaws in what we're doing.

 

[acr731]

You don’t even watch it out of fear of hearing something that upsets you?

Yea, you might be the worst one after this feat of internet cowardice.

You're wrong, I won't watch it because I simply don't care enough. All of us watched the game, we saw how Dak and the offense struggled. I don't need to watch a 51 minute video telling me what I already saw.
But even more so, I don't give a damn what Kurt has to say. If he's showering Dak with praise - golf clap to him. If he's crapping all over Dak - whatever, I don't care. But there are members on this site, one in particular, who focuses on what Kurt says word for word. I don't care enough to waste that much time and energy.

 

[Ring6]

When you only have $5.5 million CAP Space invested in your 5 RBs (including Cook on practice Squad) and your Punter and Long Snapper account for $5.0 million of CAP Space there might be a problem. Not to mention our JAG 3rd string QB pulling our CAP down by $5..0 million. We devalued the RB position way to much.

add $6,040,000 dead cap money this year for Zeke from prior contract to the RB total.

 

[Jarv]

When you only have $5.5 million CAP Space invested in your 5 RBs (including Cook on practice Squad) and your Punter and Long Snapper account for $5.0 million of CAP Space there might be a problem. Not to mention our JAG 3rd string QB pulling our CAP down by $5..0 million. We devalued the RB position way to much.

Actually there were some plays out there where Kurt showed a swing pass open in the flat with a lead blocker that could have been good gains. Dak either didn't see them or whatever, but hopefully it will be pointed out in the film room and we can hit them next week.

 

[J-man]

I think Jerry should hire Kurt to be a QB/pass play consultant for the offense.

 

[MyFairLady]

I love these videos and Warner is without a doubt an absolute jedi master level expert on how th play QB in the NFL.

Watching that video reminds me of all the other Warner break down videos that he has done on Dak. IMHO when things are straight forward and Dak is asked to make simple reads and simple throws he is extremely effective. As a rookie Dak was a super bowl winning tier QB. This however requires him to run with the ball and it requires a run game.

At this stage he is a good QB that gets taken to the wood shed by talented and prepared defenses.

 

[MyFairLady]

I think Jerry should hire Kurt to be a QB/pass play consultant for the offense.

This would be fantastic but it would require a change in QB to make it worth while. Like them or not guys like JG and KM are Warner level QB brains as well. The issue is the QB and what we are trying to get from him.

 

[blueblood70]

Did someone give us the bullet points 'cause I don't have time to watch the video...

 

[blueblood70]

add $6,040,000 dead cap money this year for Zeke from prior contract to the RB total.

And although I don't agree with what the front office did that is why I think they were clearing the books thinking they can go running back by committee like they did in 2015 when they brought McFadden in and when they saw they got very little from it just like last year Tony didn't provide us that kind of what ten $11 million that man took from us for a very average output so I think next year Jerry will do what he did in 2016 he's gonna go after one of the top running backs and we've always had one of the top running backs let's be clear they didn't change their mind on running backs they just thought they could get away with going cheaper this year and didn't workout but they saw that in 2015 and changed their mind and they will again this year it's very much looks the same just like at one time we thought we could do wide receiver by committee didn't work he made a trade and maybe I mean I know it's outlandish and crazy to think about it right now maybe by the trade deadline they bring in a guy like breeze hall or another guy on somebody's roster that's willing to move because there's some teams out there that have way too many running backs that way over drafted this year like The Jets and the dolphins that are gonna be willing to move somebody off their roster and maybe Jerry does that I don't know but you're right people forget that there were still $6 million being paid towards the running back position and you know it was probably a bad thought but that's what the front office does they thought they can get more out of what they had here and maybe by the end of the year we can.

 

[G2]

Why even come in this thread lol. I’m confused by this.

"I just came to let everyone know I'm quitting the forum."

 

[America's Cowboy]

You're wrong, I won't watch it because I simply don't care enough. All of us watched the game, we saw how Dak and the offense struggled. I don't need to watch a 51 minute video telling me what I already saw.
But even more so, I don't give a damn what Kurt has to say. If he's showering Dak with praise - golf clap to him. If he's crapping all over Dak - whatever, I don't care. But there are members on this site, one in particular, who focuses on what Kurt says word for word. I don't care enough to waste that much time and energy.

Yet, here you are posting and bringing me up. Yeah, you do care. Glad it eats you up enough for you to keep spewing your nonsense. Shows how much it eats you up. lol

 

[hopemsu]

I love these videos and Warner is without a doubt an absolute jedi master level expert on how th play QB in the NFL.

Watching that video reminds me of all the other Warner break down videos that he has done on Dak. IMHO when things are straight forward and Dak is asked to make simple reads and simple throws he is extremely effective. As a rookie Dak was a super bowl winning tier QB. This however requires him to run with the ball and it requires a run game.

At this stage he is a good QB that gets taken to the wood shed by talented and prepared defenses.

all quarterbacks (and their team) get taken to the woodshed by talented and prepared defenses. That is why the chiefs have won 2 superbowls in a row. Because they have a talented and prepared defense.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

As always Kurt has some good insights and does a good job of breaking down the offense

interesting....one he mentioned, not sure what they were trying to do on several of the break downs.
the second thing was how QB was being coached and how they want him to go through his progression.....subtle little thing most don't understand. as plays are designed, there is expectations of how the QB is going to go through progressions, based on how defenders are reacting. seems like there is coaching issue as well.
add to it Dak not being elite,
and the three of the above spell disaster.

 

[MyFairLady]

all quarterbacks (and their team) get taken to the woodshed by talented and prepared defenses.

Untrue. You can still complete. In 2016 we could compete with anyone. We were a nasty team and a tough out. We have been getting curb stomped with the team we have become. Same QB. Different philosophies.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Untrue. You can still complete. In 2016 we could compete with anyone. We were a nasty team and a tough out. We have been getting curb stomped with the team we have become. Same QB. Different philosophies.

BS. It all comes down to coaching. No QB is going to follow the wrong progressions UNLESS HE IS BEING COACHED TO DO SO. If any QB goes against (progressions) what he is being coached, guaranteed he will be benched. The problem with following the wrong progressions is not with the QB. It's with the coaching.

 

[DallasEast]

No QB is going to follow the wrong progressions UNLESS HE IS BEING COACHED TO DO SO.

That is literally 100% incorrect. One primary defensive coordinator responsibility is designing schemes disguising coverages that opposing quarterbacks see during their progressions.

Usually, the quarterback's coaching will offset what the defense tries lulling him into a false sense of security where he should pass the ball. It is not every time. At times, quarterbacks will go through the wrong progression for this reason.

No quarterback, at every level, since the sport was created, with adequate coaching, has avoided going through a wrong progression at times--both pre- and post-snap. It is humanly impossible to say it cannot happen because of coaching. Quarterbacks are human. Humans err. They are not walking supercomputing androids with arms.

 

[America's Cowboy]

That is literally 100% incorrect. One primary defensive coordinator responsibility is designing schemes disguising coverages that opposing quarterbacks see during their progressions.

Usually, the quarterback's coaching will offset what the defense tries lulling him into a false sense of security where he should pass the ball. It is not every time. At times, quarterbacks will go through the wrong progression for this reason.

No quarterback, at every level, since the sport was created, with adequate coaching, has avoided going through a wrong progression at times--both pre- and post-snap. It is humanly impossible to say it cannot happen because of coaching. Quarterbacks are human. Humans err. They are not walking supercomputing androids with arms.

Wrong. If Dak were repeatedly going through the wrong progressions as assumed by some, he would have gotten benched by now. Since he hasn't, this means the progressions he takes is what he is being coached to do. Simple and obvious.

 

[DallasEast]

Wrong. If Dak were repeatedly going through the wrong progressions as assumed by some, he would have gotten benched by now. Since he hasn't, this means the progressions he takes is what he is being coached to do. Simple and obvious.

You are hedging with 'repeatedly'. You stated: "No QB is going to follow the wrong progressions UNLESS HE IS BEING COACHED TO DO SO."

I did not comment about wrongly going through progressions over and over. It is okay. You win. I am not going down this rabbit hole.

 

[MyFairLady]

BS. It all comes down to coaching. No QB is going to follow the wrong progressions UNLESS HE IS BEING COACHED TO DO SO. If any QB goes against (progressions) what he is being coached, guaranteed he will be benched. The problem with following the wrong progressions is not with the QB. It's with the coaching.

Wow. This statement is so crazy. Why did I even bother.

 

[America's Cowboy]

You are hedging with 'repeatedly'. You stated: "No QB is going to follow the wrong progressions UNLESS HE IS BEING COACHED TO DO SO."

I did not comment about wrongly going through progressions over and over. It is okay. You win. I am not going down this rabbit hole.

Every QB will go through a wrong progression once in a while, especially when tricked into it by an opposing D-Coordinator. Yet, you guys act as if Dak does this all the time. That's what the discussion was about. If Dak did it all the team, or repeatedly, he would have been benched by now. Same goes for any other franchise's starting QB.