Kyler Murray?

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  1. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    What Mayfield and Mahomes did was against Big 12 defenses too and they appear to be making the transition.

    These Big 12 QB’s are for real and their offenses are part of why those defenses statistically were so bad.

    Big 12 has more focus on their offenses and prolific QB’s. Will Grier from West Virginia is another one I’d be looking at. And Steinham from Auburn who was originally from Baylor another.

    Big 12 is becoming a cream of crop for QB’s because of their prolific offenses which is an attraction for this football fan and apparently the NFL.
     
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  2. CATCH17

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    The next Senneca Wallace.


    All the fans on here enamored watching him play against teams with no defense and then not producing until he's down 28-0 against Alabama..

    Buh buh buh.. He's fast!

    Like that even matters for a QB in the NFL.


    When coverage is tight and he is bottled up as a runner can he sit in the pocket and make throws into tight coverage or is he going to constantly be running around trying to escape and buy time?

    "He's accurate CATCH! I saw him do it in College against the worst defenses in the country!"

    Save it please.

    Not to mention the guy is Tavon Austins size.

    Kyler Murray is a huuuuge risk.
     
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  3. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    Murray isn’t the only QB I’d be looking at in this draft.
     
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  4. Future

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    I don't see how Murray is ever going to be able to sit in the pocket and read a defense...and that's a requirement in today's NFL.

    I don't question his ability to make all the throws, but I absolutely question his ability to physically see them. An offense where you have to break the pocket on every play is pretty unsustainable.
     
  5. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    Is it possible that many NFL teams don’t agree with your concerns? Or at least believe his talent can overcome these obstacles.
     
  6. CATCH17

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    NFL teams get it wrong all the time.

    They'll get it wrong again with him.


    If Andy Reid was coaching him i'd give him a chance.
     
  7. aikemirv

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    He will go top 15 but I am not sold.
     
  8. Future

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    Sure, I think he's going to go in the top 10 lol

    I just have doubts about whether or not that kind of investment will work out.
     
  9. bodi

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    Keep hearing TV talking heads question the 5-10 height at which we list Kyler. Have heard a couple even say they think he's more like 5-8. Before the season, our strength staff measured him at 5-9 7/8 in socks


    hope the giants waste a pick
     
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  10. joseephuss

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    Why do some say he is a freak of nature? If he was 6'-4" and could move as he does, then I would say he is a freak. Heck, even if he was only 6'-0" I'd say he was close to being a freak. At 5'-10"(and he is probably shorter) I don't think freak athlete. I think amazing quickness, but not freak athlete.

    There have been many QBs come out of the Big XII that didn't amount to anything in the NFL over the last decade. I hope Washington drafts him and he turns out to be the bust I think he will be.
     
  11. Cowboysfan917

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    I prefer Will Grier if I’m taking a QB with limitations. Then give me a new coaching staff next year.
     
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  12. CouchCoach

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    That's a no sale on Big 12 defenses. I might be an easier sell if I hadn't watched them play.
     
  13. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    Actually my pitch was for the QB’s and offenses.
     
  14. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    Yea, he’s definitely more of the NFL proto type. I’d probably lean on selecting him over Murray.
     
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  15. Diehardblues

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    How many athletes can be drafted in first round in MLB and NFL?

    That’s definitely very elite status when you consider Deion Danders and Bo Jackson are only others in the modern era to start in both leagues.

    If that’s not freakish it’s definitely close. He doesn’t need a freakish physique to be freakishly talented.
     
  16. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    Do you ever get it wrong? But I would agree Murray’s chances increase pending the team and coaching.
     
  17. CATCH17

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    Of course but so do NFL teams.
     
  18. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    Are you suggesting Murray shouldn’t be drafted ?
     
  19. CATCH17

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    lol absolutely not.

    I am saying he is as big of a risk as it gets because the conference he plays in inflates the way he looks on the football field because defenses are an absolute joke and he is so small that it's completely against what typically works at that position.
     
  20. Corso

    Corso Offseason mode... sleepy time

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    I am. He's a waste of a pick.
    What a risk, if he struggles out of the gate, hello MLB.
     
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