LaCharles Bentley > Kyle Kosier?

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ZeroClub;2134397 said:
Bentley has had all kinds of bad luck (injuries and infections). I'll pass.

I like how the Cowboys OL is looking these days - solid 1st teamers and some talented younger guys who may make a push before too long. Who knows, maybe it'll soon be this guy's turn:

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Are you trying to scare small children with that pic of Michael Myers? Or adults for that matter.
 
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I wonder what his physical status is... Bentley suffered a major injury, but Kosier is definitely the weakest link.
 

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Star4Ever;2134330 said:
Big difference between the Bentley situation and what we did with Columbo. We were desperate for line help when we signed Columbo. We're certainly not in that shape now in regards to our OL. We simply don't need him, so there's no need to take a chance on him.

When we signed Colombo he sat for 1/3 to 1/4 of the end of the season. He then went through our off-season program and came in and competed in TC and won the job. Colombo wasn't signed out of desperation, he was a "rock overturned" project that just happened to work out. The Cowboys weren't counting on him for anything.

There's no less of a need to take a chance on Bentley (if the contract numbers jive) then there was to take a chance on Tank Johnson. We didn't need Johnson, it was an opportunity to pick up an amazing talent under a unique situation. That low risk gamble could pay some MAJOR dividends this season. If Bentley could be "observed" under similar conditions, you would have to be a fool to not at least explore the possibilities of signing a guy that was top 3 talent at his position a short two years ago. Keep in mind, also, that no one wanted any part of Colombo due to his knee injury history either. He's worked out quite well and will make a boatload of money in FA next year (either in Dallas or somewhere else).
 

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dbair1967;2134170 said:
it sure is a no brainer...the answer is no

he wants to be guaranteed a starting spot, and for that he's gonna want premium dollars...he isnt worth that risk

My guess is he is out of football this yr

David

you say he wants premium dollars but think he's outta football this year, but he wants premium dollars.....

He is like eveyone else who comes off injury, he will get a incentive base contract with the hopes of cashing in.he will not see or maybe never see another big day contract....he got paid almost 20 million and never stepped foot on the field for Cleveland so I doubt any team will give him big money base on a 2005 season.....

he might retired instead of playing for 1mil plus incentives but he will play IMO just because he knows he can atleast make another 8 mil over the next 4 or so years.....
 

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speedkilz88;2134399 said:
Are you trying to scare small children with that pic of Michael Myers? Or adults for that matter.

Yeah, he's got some "game face", doesn't he?
 

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ZeroClub;2134397 said:
Bentley has had all kinds of bad luck (injuries and infections). I'll pass.

I like how the Cowboys OL is looking these days - solid 1st teamers and some talented younger guys who may make a push before too long. Who knows, maybe it'll soon be this guy's turn:

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Hailmary;2134438 said:
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* Sorry in advance for anyone that may be offended by this. *

I think folks called Rocky Denis years ago
 

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skinsscalper;2134412 said:
When we signed Colombo he sat for 1/3 to 1/4 of the end of the season. He then went through our off-season program and came in and competed in TC and won the job. Colombo wasn't signed out of desperation, he was a "rock overturned" project that just happened to work out. The Cowboys weren't counting on him for anything.

There's no less of a need to take a chance on Bentley (if the contract numbers jive) then there was to take a chance on Tank Johnson. We didn't need Johnson, it was an opportunity to pick up an amazing talent under a unique situation. That low risk gamble could pay some MAJOR dividends this season. If Bentley could be "observed" under similar conditions, you would have to be a fool to not at least explore the possibilities of signing a guy that was top 3 talent at his position a short two years ago. Keep in mind, also, that no one wanted any part of Colombo due to his knee injury history either. He's worked out quite well and will make a boatload of money in FA next year (either in Dallas or somewhere else).

Actually, you're wrong about not needing Tank Johnson. We signed him after Ferguson went out for the year with an injury. At that time, we didn't know that Ratliff would play so well at NT. Nontheless, we still needed some depth on the nose. We did get a bargain due to his situation, but we don't need any more depth on the OL. We've got young guys that need to play. I'd only be for a Bentley signing if it was at a bargain price. Even then, we'd end up having to cut one of the current OL players simply due to the numbers game. No thanks.
 

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Star4Ever;2134454 said:
Actually, you're wrong about not needing Tank Johnson. We signed him after Ferguson went out for the year with an injury. At that time, we didn't know that Ratliff would play so well at NT. Nontheless, we still needed some depth on the nose. We did get a bargain due to his situation, but we don't need any more depth on the OL. We've got young guys that need to play. I'd only be for a Bentley signing if it was at a bargain price. Even then, we'd end up having to cut one of the current OL players simply due to the numbers game. No thanks.

So we shouldn't sign Bentley because Corey Procter or Joe Berger would lose their jobs?

That's some good reasoning.
 

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I think signing Bently would be a mistake simply because you will be handicapping your younger players like McQuistan, Martin, etc by not allowing them to develop. I am all for getting talent on this team but Kosier is serviceable and I think we have quality backups. I think McQuistan should actually get the chance to start this training camp.
 

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If he was willing to accept an incentive laden deal, I don't know why anyone would dismiss this. He was outstanding when healthy. Worth rolling the dice on.

However, I would imagine some team will sign him that might give him a legitimate chance to start. There is interest out there for him. Miami and St. Louis were two team I've heard and their OLs are awful.

I also have little to no hope that Marten becomes a starter and Proctor/Berger are backups at best.
 

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Bentley of 2005 would be an upgrade for certain over Kosier. Its a question if the Bentley of 2008 is.
 

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Not with the contract he's going to be looking for.

Exactly right. His knee is a mess and he wants a lot of $........certainly not a 'no-brainer' scenario.
 

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What about signing bentley and dumping Proctor since bentley has experience at center? You could keep kosier atleast one more year and see if bentley has anything left. I know Proctor has been a workaholic, but odds are we will bring in another olineman next year and he will be outta here anyway.Prossman
 

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abersonc;2134475 said:
So we shouldn't sign Bentley because Corey Procter or Joe Berger would lose their jobs?

That's some good reasoning.

1) Who do you think is cheaper?
2) Who is younger?
3) Who knows whether Bentley can still play after his very serious injuries and the resulting infections, etc.?


The bottom line is this. If he's healthy and can play at a high level, he would be a good addition. However, if all this is true (and we have no idea whether it is or not), he won't come cheap. We have a tremendous amount of $ invested in our OL and can't afford another high-priced player. You can't have a Pro Bowler at every position, especially when you're taking a risk on a player that has had numerous injury problems. Just my opinion.
 

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Star4Ever;2134454 said:
Actually, you're wrong about not needing Tank Johnson. We signed him after Ferguson went out for the year with an injury. At that time, we didn't know that Ratliff would play so well at NT. Nontheless, we still needed some depth on the nose. We did get a bargain due to his situation, but we don't need any more depth on the OL. We've got young guys that need to play. I'd only be for a Bentley signing if it was at a bargain price. Even then, we'd end up having to cut one of the current OL players simply due to the numbers game. No thanks.

Actually Tank Johnson was another "overturned rock" project. The Cowboys weren't counting on him because they knew they couldn't. Whether Tank was signed or not their wagon was hitched to Ratliff.Tank didn't even contribute until late in the season and wasn't even remotely effective until the final couple of weeks. Tank was a wing and a prayer signing. Not much unlike Bentley would be. When you sign a guy like Bentley or Johnson, it's hardly ever about depth anyway so that argument is moot. It's about a low risk high reward gamble.

Like a previous poster said, If we lose the likes of Cory Proctor or Joe Berger to take a look, so be it. If he's no good, then maybe you can pick one of the other guys up. If not the waiver wires ore full of the Proctors and Bergers of the world.
 

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Man its really sad how far bentley have fell.....He used to be a top center and now because of his knee and in my opinion the browns he has fallen
 

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Going to that clinic in Cleveland is what really messed him up. That infection is what did most of the damage.
 
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