Lads, help me make sense of 2 plays, both the last plays against the 49ers 2021-22 seasons

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DAKCHOKA legacy when it's on the line he chokes.........Deer in the Headlights anyone?????
Give him some dog team at home, take the lead early, and have the running game working and he's great.
Have him face a real defense.....well you've all seen the results!
LOSER!!!!!
I would like to see us extend Dak for 4 years 240M contract. that would be absolutely awsome. :grin:

Romo isn't coming back, time to take the posters off the ceiling.
 

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And with Zeke snapping the ball and landing backwards on his buttocks, it looked to be a clown circus.:mad:
Zeke does not make a very good O-line.

And how fitting for the cowboys to design a play where Zeke has to snap the ball while a LBer totally tees off on him. A snap shot of the fugging up of zeke's career. Amazing...groundbreaking! KM has a brilliant football mind.

Emmitt doesn't do that and they had enough respect for him to not even ask.
 

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We can point fingers at different players and coaches for those epic failures but we all know deep inside that if an in prime Rodgers or Brady was at the helm, no way do those games end that way.. .no way

It was the blind leading the blind
 

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They also exposed a choking defense that gave up 10 points in the 4th quarter along with 2 dropped picks and multiple untimely penalties to extend the drive on the TD for SF.
That's a somewhat typical deflection. Yes the defense (id call it) ran out of steam (rather than 'choking') but Dak had lost all composure, he wasn't going to lead that offense if you gave him another half. Not going to win many play-off games scoring 12 pts.
However, the offense, as it stands, should be infinitely better this season so let's hope.
 

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still wouldn't gaurantee a score, but I get the point, at least would have been given a chance. everyone picks at that play, as if, it went right we win. it was still big fat chance of a win, as you said, with 8 defenders dropping back. now, all jammed into a smaller area and into the end zone.
Exactly. But the chances of a congested jump ball pass interference do increase in a crowded end zone.

Two Hail Mary attempts? Or run it for one Hail Mary attempt? Either way you have about a 5% chance of it working.

The recent game with Zeke at center I don’t see any complaints. Because anything you run has about a .0001% chance of working
 

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That's a somewhat typical deflection. Yes the defense (id call it) ran out of steam (rather than 'choking') but Dak had lost all composure, he wasn't going to lead that offense if you gave him another half. Not going to win many play-off games scoring 12 pts.
However, the offense, as it stands, should be infinitely better this season so let's hope.
Its not a deflection as much as its pointing out other issues. All the trolls talk about is Dak's bad game. Why should I be another one? Based on who was surrounding Dak I doubt many QB's was going to beat the Niners D late that day. QB had little to no help.

As far as the offense what have we really done? cooks certainly makes a difference, but the Oline is worse. Zeke is gone so that helps but its not like they went out and got other studs to pair with Pollard. Maybe we can hope that Pollard stays healthy. This team will need to win with defense in the playoffs. I have little faith in the Oline other than a handful of games where all 5 of our starters are healthy. Chuma and Walezko dont move the needle for me.
 

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good post Roy. If the offensive line was bad the running back was bad and we didn't have any wide receiver help, what was Moore supposed to do? Was he more of a scapegoat to take the fall because of the poor performance of the team and because he was already talking to the Chargers? Was this just something Jerry did to save face with Mike and with the public to make it look like they were making a change?
 

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The Zeke snap play was just desperation in an impossible situation.

That play where the ref needed to touch the ball was also a bit desperate but since that play I have been keenly aware of that situation in every game I watch. And what I have seen in so many games replayed on the NFL network is that play was partially the refs fault. In every situation like that one that I have seen, the ref runs downfield to be there when the ball is spotted. The ref just has to touch the ball to spot it. But it is clear that the refs understand the game is on the line and not to dilly dally to get to the football. On that play with the Cowboys, the ref took much longer than I have seen the refs take in any other game. The fact is, if the ref had gotten there quickly, Dak would have gotten off the snap with time on the clock and the Cowboys would have had 1 more play. So it is true Dak should had known better but also the ref needed to be more aware of the situation as well since that seems to be something they have been aware of in so many other games.
 

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Its not a deflection as much as its pointing out other issues. All the trolls talk about is Dak's bad game. Why should I be another one? Based on who was surrounding Dak I doubt many QB's was going to beat the Niners D late that day. QB had little to no help.

As far as the offense what have we really done? cooks certainly makes a difference, but the Oline is worse. Zeke is gone so that helps but its not like they went out and got other studs to pair with Pollard. Maybe we can hope that Pollard stays healthy. This team will need to win with defense in the playoffs. I have little faith in the Oline other than a handful of games where all 5 of our starters are healthy. Chuma and Walezko dont move the needle for me.
There are other issues, however, the fact still remains that Dak had the chance. The O-line, receiving corp and OC were all the same as the previous week.
I suppose it's the expectation (and desire) for your QB to be able to step up in the face of adversity, as it stands if the stars align he's outstanding, but just lacks that leadership when it's backs against the wall.
 

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There are other issues, however, the fact still remains that Dak had the chance. The O-line, receiving corp and OC were all the same as the previous week.
I suppose it's the expectation (and desire) for your QB to be able to step up in the face of adversity, as it stands if the stars align he's outstanding, but just lacks that leadership when it's backs against the wall.
And it’s not like the Niners had rolled up 35 points on us…..our defense played lights out and held that potent Niners offense to 310 total yards and 19 points

a player that makes an average of 40 mIllion a year and swallows up 20% of the entire teams salary cap HAS TO DELIVER more than just 1 Touchdown and 12 points in 60 minutes of football

it’s really just that simple. Never personal and always business and result based.
 

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There are other issues, however, the fact still remains that Dak had the chance. The O-line, receiving corp and OC were all the same as the previous week.
I suppose it's the expectation (and desire) for your QB to be able to step up in the face of adversity, as it stands if the stars align he's outstanding, but just lacks that leadership when it's backs against the wall.
You have what is called Dak derangement syndrome. All you ever do is talk about Dak. LOL

Dak had a chance, Dak this, Dak failed, bla bla bla.

You are a complete waste of time talking to.

Dak lacks leadership? How many articles have come out lately from guys like Beasley and Moore claiming Dak is the best leader they have ever been around?

More lies and garbage.
 

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good post Roy. If the offensive line was bad the running back was bad and we didn't have any wide receiver help, what was Moore supposed to do? Was he more of a scapegoat to take the fall because of the poor performance of the team and because he was already talking to the Chargers? Was this just something Jerry did to save face with Mike and with the public to make it look like they were making a change?
Most fans blame the one coach or player they hate the most and talk only about that.

The truth is that the Niners are just a better football team with the #1 defense in the NFL for a reason. And they played like it in the 4th while our defense choked it away.

Dak, Zeke, Oline, defense all screwed the pooch at some point. And yes Moore is somewhat of a scapegoat.

However his featuring of Zeke and predictable offense the last few years deserved a change. And as HC, MM should call his own plays if he wants to.
 

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You have what is called Dak derangement syndrome. All you ever do is talk about Dak. LOL

Dak had a chance, Dak this, Dak failed, bla bla bla.

You are a complete waste of time talking to.

Dak lacks leadership? How many articles have come out lately from guys like Beasley and Moore claiming Dak is the best leader they have ever been around?

More lies and garbage.
Please be sooooooooooooo kind and explain this one?

 

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The Zeke snap play was just desperation in an impossible situation.

That play where the ref needed to touch the ball was also a bit desperate but since that play I have been keenly aware of that situation in every game I watch. And what I have seen in so many games replayed on the NFL network is that play was partially the refs fault. In every situation like that one that I have seen, the ref runs downfield to be there when the ball is spotted. The ref just has to touch the ball to spot it. But it is clear that the refs understand the game is on the line and not to dilly dally to get to the football. On that play with the Cowboys, the ref took much longer than I have seen the refs take in any other game. The fact is, if the ref had gotten there quickly, Dak would have gotten off the snap with time on the clock and the Cowboys would have had 1 more play. So it is true Dak should had known better but also the ref needed to be more aware of the situation as well since that seems to be something they have been aware of in so many other games.
It was definitely the refs fault. The guy who spots the ball was like 25 yards behind the LOS and was certainly in no rush to get to the line after the slide BUT the team has to know in that situation who to hand the ball to to get it spotted. When the QB is handing the ball to the center, it’s game over.

There should be a rule in place to have the spotter close to the line. The side judge should run in since they have a better view of the spot anyway. But the entire situation was just an unprepared mess from the offense as well as a very poor job from the refs. Considering the refs suck on a regular basis that slide shouldn’t have even been an option at that point.
 

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The year before we went 3 and out and then ended up with one of the goofiest plays to date in the NFL.
Last season's playoff loss is the all-the-money drive that ended in the following manner here below.
1st down......almost a pick 6
2nd down....inaccurate pass to an open Gallup.
3rd down.... with mucho time a sack.


The last play with Zeke playing center was going nowhere.....

We all know what happened leading up. We’re strictly talking about the final play. And what they did in both situations should not have been an option.
 

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You have what is called Dak derangement syndrome. All you ever do is talk about Dak. LOL

Dak had a chance, Dak this, Dak failed, bla bla bla.

You are a complete waste of time talking to.

Dak lacks leadership? How many articles have come out lately from guys like Beasley and Moore claiming Dak is the best leader they have ever been around?

More lies and garbage.
Yes, when Beez and Moore praise a guy, me ears are all ears.
 
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