Lakeshow!

[SLATEmosphere]

Game 5 Kobe played huge, yet the rest of the team played like **** and what happend? Lakers got rocked. Game 7: He plays arguably his worst playoff game of his career and Lakers still win?....I'm not saying Kobe isnt a great player, cause he is. I'm just saying this series is a great example of basketball being a TEAM , so to judge Kobe being better player based on winning championships is completely irrelevant.
That's like saying Eli Manning is better Qb than Dan Marino becuase Eli has more championships.

Kobe shot 40% in the series. Having a hard time grasping how that's MVP worthy.

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

Game 5 Kobe played huge, yet the rest of the team played like **** and what happend? Lakers got rocked. Game 7: He plays arguably his worst playoff game of his career and Lakers still win?....I'm not saying Kobe isnt a great player, cause he is. I'm just saying this series is a great example of basketball being a TEAM , so to judge Kobe being better player based on winning championships is completely irrelevant.
That's like saying Eli Manning is better Qb than Dan Marino becuase Eli has more championships.

Kobe shot 40% in the series. Having a hard time grasping how that's MVP worthy.

Fair...Fair but who is the #1 player the Lakeshow can't win without in "any" series....

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Fair...Fair but who is the #1 player the Lakeshow can't win without in "any" series....

Andrew Bynum.

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

Andrew Bynum.

:laugh2: :laugh1: :laugh2:

Thats almost funny as when Kobe said he now was one up on Shaq..

 

[Bleu Star]

I'm really interested about how many Lakers fans we have here.

Plenty. http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185703

 

[locked&loaded]

Still trying to figure out why Kobe got MVP. He played fairly average the whole series and **** the bed tonight. It was hardly a dominant effort by him.

If someone has the answer, let me know. I won't hold my breath.

Kobe had a fine series. Plus eventhough they did lose that game he willed that team in the 3rd quarter. That team looks to him. Oh and I am so sick of hearing about Bynum and his knees and how good he can be.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

:laugh2: :laugh1: :laugh2:

Thats almost funny as when Kobe said he now was one up on Shaq..

Really because there's a case to be made that without Bynum, the Lakers lose that series.

Sasha could go 6-24 too.

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

Really because there's a case to be made that without Bynum, the Lakers lose that series.

Sasha could go 6-24 too.

Gasol is the reason besides Kobe...He got a bit tougher than he was in '08

 

[Gemini Dolly]

Kobe has never won a title without Derek Fisher.

MVP FISH

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Gasol is the reason besides Kobe...He got a bit tougher than he was in '08

Agreed. The Lakers deserved the championship but I don't think Kobe played at a MVP level. Yeah he averaged 28 points but he took a high number of shots and shot 40%. Nothing spectacular at all.

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

Kobe has never won a title without Derek Fisher.

MVP FISH

No argument

 

[Bleu Star]

MVP - The Purp & Gold jersey!!!!!!!!!

 

[rkstevens]

Blah, blah, blah.

The Lakers would still be struggling to get over the hump if it weren't for Jerry West doing them a favor when he was on his way out in Memphis.

Lakers got Gasol for some fringe NBA players and a couple of 1st round picks. And everyone knows that 1st round picks aren't worth much in the NBA unless you're picking in the lottery.

So screw the Lakers and The Logo for handing them a quality player for peanuts.

I hate when people say this. The Gasol deal was one-sided, but that's the way the NBA is now with teams trying to clear salary-cap space for money reasons and to possibly sign free agents. The Grizzlies were able to use the cap space to trade for Zach Randolph who became an All-Star in 2009-2010, helping them with 16 more games last season, the most since the made the playoffs three straight years.

Look at some of the more one-sided trades made in recent years and no one ever mentions them because those teams haven't been able to convert those trades into championships. The Spurs got Richard Jefferson, a former All-Star and 20 PPG/5 RPG guy in 2008-2009 for Bruce Bowen (who retired), Fabricio Oberto (who was waived), and 37 year-old Kurt Thomas who averaged a whopping 3 PPG/5 RPG. That was a way more one-sided trade. The Mavs got Caron Butler (former All-Star and 20 PPG/6 RPG), Brendan Haywood (10 PPG/10 RPG) and DeShaun Stevenson for Josh Howard (who played 4 games and got hurt), Drew Gooden (who was waived) and a couple of journeyman. And to top it off, Cleveland got 2-time All-Star Antawn Jamison (20 PPG/9 RPG) and Sebastion Telfair for Zydrunas Ilgauskas who they got back a month later! Talk about getting something for nothing and circumventing the salary cap. At least the Grizzlies got a legitimate center who's worth his weight in gold in Marc Gasol who averaged 14.6 PPG/9.3 RPG last season. By comparison, Pau averaged 18.8 PPG/11.8 RPG last season, is 4 years older and had never won a playoff series before joining the Lakers. They also got Donte Green, a nice young player who they drafted with the Laker's pick in 2008 but they traded him away to Sacramento where he started in 50 games last season.

Jerry West also left the Grizzlies at the end of the 2007 season (June 2007) and the Gasol trade wasn't made until February 2008. Sure, maybe West still had some influence with his successor who's job was on the line after a year. I know my former co-workers are tripping over themselves to do me favors.

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

I hate when people say this. The Gasol deal was one-sided, but that's the way the NBA is now with teams trying to clear salary-cap space for money reasons and to possibly sign free agents. The Grizzlies were able to use the cap space to trade for Zach Randolph who became an All-Star in 2009-2010, helping them with 16 more games last season, the most since the made the playoffs three straight years.

Look at some of the more one-sided trades made in recent years and no one ever mentions them because those teams haven't been able to convert those trades into championships. The Spurs got Richard Jefferson, a former All-Star and 20 PPG/5 RPG guy in 2008-2009 for Bruce Bowen (who retired), Fabricio Oberto (who was waived), and 37 year-old Kurt Thomas who averaged a whopping 3 PPG/5 RPG. That was a way more one-sided trade. The Mavs got Caron Butler (former All-Star and 20 PPG/6 RPG), Brendan Haywood (10 PPG/10 RPG) and DeShaun Stevenson for Josh Howard (who played 4 games and got hurt), Drew Gooden (who was waived) and a couple of journeyman. And to top it off, Cleveland got 2-time All-Star Antawn Jamison (20 PPG/9 RPG) and Sebastion Telfair for Zydrunas Ilgauskas who they got back a month later! Talk about getting something for nothing and circumventing the salary cap. At least the Grizzlies got a legitimate center who's worth his weight in gold in Marc Gasol who averaged 14.6 PPG/9.3 RPG last season. By comparison, Pau averaged 18.8 PPG/11.8 RPG last season, is 4 years older and had never won a playoff series before joining the Lakers. They also got Donte Green, a nice young player who they drafted with the Laker's pick in 2008 but they traded him away to Sacramento where he started in 50 games last season.

Jerry West also left the Grizzlies at the end of the 2007 season (June 2007) and the Gasol trade wasn't made until February 2008. Sure, maybe West still had some influence with his successor who's job was on the line after a year. I know my former co-workers are tripping over themselves to do me favors.

Thank you Thank you Thank you

 

[rkstevens]

Kobe had a fine series. Plus eventhough they did lose that game he willed that team in the 3rd quarter. That team looks to him. Oh and I am so sick of hearing about Bynum and his knees and how good he can be.

Someone has to win the Finals MVP. Who else should get it, unless you are going to give it to someone from the losing team where no one played consistently well all 7 games either. Pierce was just average and Rondo only had 2 games with double-digit assists. Allen had one great game, one horrible game and several average games. Garnett had a few bad games, only one double-digit rebound game and averaged 6 RPG for the series. On the Lakers, the only other player really worthy of the MVP was Gasol and he disappeared in 2 of the 3 games in Boston. Bryant didn't have a series for the record books, but I can't imagine how people can question him being the MVP when he pulls down 11 and 15 rebounds in back to back elimination games to win the Finals and averages 28.6 PPG, 8 RPG, 3.9 APG and 2.1 Steals per game and shot 40%.

In 1996, in the finals against Seattle, Michael Jordan averaged 27.3 PPG, 5.33 RPG, 4.2 APG, and 1.7 Steals per game and shot 41%. M.J. also had games where he shot 9 for 22, 11 for 23, 6 for 19, and 5 for 19 in the final clinching game. Of course he won Finals MVP and deservedly so.

 

[Christiann]

Laker fan here, and I'm in LA. The Streets are crazy right now!!!!!!!

 

[miamicowboy21]

Congrats laker fans. That's the extent of it. As a celtics fan I'm sick to my stomach and couldn't even sleep. Dishearting loss. This one is going to hurt for a few weeks.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Laker fan here, and I'm in LA. The Streets are crazy right now!!!!!!!

I never have understood the need to riot and burn stuff after a team wins.

 

[miamicowboy21]

Still trying to figure out why Kobe got MVP. He played fairly average the whole series and **** the bed tonight. It was hardly a dominant effort by him.

If someone has the answer, let me know. I won't hold my breath.

He won because he was the best player on the court. Arrest came up big last night, but don't fool yourself nobody is getting those open looks without Kobe drawing double teams. Also, don't discount his 14 rebounds. Even though he didn't shoot a high percentage he affected the game in other ways, that's the sign of a great player. Your boy Lebron will never be Kobe, because he dosent have Kobe's will and kobe's disgust for losing. Kobe eats, sleeps, and breathes basketball. IMO lebron dosent.

 

[Shneek814]

Stop trying to critique championships Slate. Youll never win.