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SLATEmosphere;3436445 said:
Agreed. The Lakers deserved the championship but I don't think Kobe played at a MVP level. Yeah he averaged 28 points but he took a high number of shots and shot 40%. Nothing spectacular at all.

I'm not sure you understand the point of the MVP Award. It doesn't go to who averages the most points or shoots the most effectively, otherwise Kevin Durant would have been the regular season MVP.
 

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Man I was so stoked watching the Lakers beat the Celtics! There is no better feeling in the world than to see that happen (except the Cowboys winning the SB of course)!

16 time World Champs!!! One more and we will catch the Celtics, I hope it's against them again next year. IMO this is the biggest rivalry in all of sports (well in the U.S. anyway).
 

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miamicowboy21;3436567 said:
Congrats laker fans. That's the extent of it. As a celtics fan I'm sick to my stomach and couldn't even sleep. Dishearting loss. This one is going to hurt for a few weeks.

Now you know what I have felt 9 times! I hate losing to the Celtics more than anything. I grew up with it in the 60s when we lost to them 6 times in the finals. The 3 times we have beaten Boston in the finals were the sweetest ever!

Great rivalry though and I hope we meet again next year! We still owe you guys a few more.
 

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TheCount;3436594 said:
I'm not sure you understand the point of the MVP Award. It doesn't go to who averages the most points or shoots the most effectively, otherwise Kevin Durant would have been the regular season MVP.

Then enlighten me what you think a mvp is? Most of them are given to the player with the most points. Lebron got it because he nearly averaged a triple double in the season.

Bynum and gasol are every bit as valuable to that team. We all saw what happened when bynum was gone in game 4.
 

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SLATEmosphere;3436396 said:
Still trying to figure out why Kobe got MVP. He played fairly average the whole series and **** the bed tonight. It was hardly a dominant effort by him.

If someone has the answer, let me know. I won't hold my breath.

He shoot poorly last night but, he played good defense, he rebounded and he had assists. He lead the Lakers in Scoring, Assists and Steals in the Series. As poorly as he shot, he still lead all scores with 23. If you look at the whole series, there really is nobody else who was nearly as deserving, at least IMO. For the Celtics, I'd probably say Rondo. For the Lakers, the only other guy might be Gasol but he did not have as good a series as did Kobe. Kobe did not look spectacular last night but good defensive teams will make you look that way.
 

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SLATEmosphere;3436719 said:
Then enlighten me what you think a mvp is? Most of them are given to the player with the most points. Lebron got it because he nearly averaged a triple double in the season.

Bynum and gasol are every bit as valuable to that team. We all saw what happened when bynum was gone in game 4.

Don't forget to update your sig. :rolleyes:

Good job dodging rkstevens post, we know you don't really want to talk numbers. :laugh2:
 

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Yeagermeister;3436576 said:
I never have understood the need to riot and burn stuff after a team wins. :confused:

Watching a game like BB will do that to you. ;)
 

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two words lakers fans, tiago splitter!!!

spurs are the only team in the west that can beat the lakers, cant wait till next year!!
 

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Hoods;3436755 said:
Don't forget to update your sig. :rolleyes:

Good job dodging rkstevens post, we know you don't really want to talk numbers. :laugh2:

I have that clown on ignore.

I don't talk numbers?

Kobe shot 40% from the field in the series. He's 2 for 7 in NBA Finals MVP's.

Your turn.
 

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SLATEmosphere;3436976 said:
I have that clown on ignore.

I don't talk numbers?

Kobe shot 40% from the field in the series. He's 2 for 7 in NBA Finals MVP's.

Your turn.

Sure, you can start with rk's post:

Someone has to win the Finals MVP. Who else should get it, unless you are going to give it to someone from the losing team where no one played consistently well all 7 games either. Pierce was just average and Rondo only had 2 games with double-digit assists. Allen had one great game, one horrible game and several average games. Garnett had a few bad games, only one double-digit rebound game and averaged 6 RPG for the series. On the Lakers, the only other player really worthy of the MVP was Gasol and he disappeared in 2 of the 3 games in Boston. Bryant didn't have a series for the record books, but I can't imagine how people can question him being the MVP when he pulls down 11 and 15 rebounds in back to back elimination games to win the Finals and averages 28.6 PPG, 8 RPG, 3.9 APG and 2.1 Steals per game and shot 40%.

In 1996, in the finals against Seattle, Michael Jordan averaged 27.3 PPG, 5.33 RPG, 4.2 APG, and 1.7 Steals per game and shot 41%. M.J. also had games where he shot 9 for 22, 11 for 23, 6 for 19, and 5 for 19 in the final clinching game. Of course he won Finals MVP and deservedly so.
 

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i actually agree with slate (i feel dirty saying that) i thought gasol deserved the MVP, but of course its kobe, they cant do that!
 

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Hoods;3437005 said:
Sure, you can start with rk's post:

Someone has to win the Finals MVP. Who else should get it, unless you are going to give it to someone from the losing team where no one played consistently well all 7 games either. Pierce was just average and Rondo only had 2 games with double-digit assists. Allen had one great game, one horrible game and several average games. Garnett had a few bad games, only one double-digit rebound game and averaged 6 RPG for the series. On the Lakers, the only other player really worthy of the MVP was Gasol and he disappeared in 2 of the 3 games in Boston. Bryant didn't have a series for the record books, but I can't imagine how people can question him being the MVP when he pulls down 11 and 15 rebounds in back to back elimination games to win the Finals and averages 28.6 PPG, 8 RPG, 3.9 APG and 2.1 Steals per game and shot 40%.

In 1996, in the finals against Seattle, Michael Jordan averaged 27.3 PPG, 5.33 RPG, 4.2 APG, and 1.7 Steals per game and shot 41%. M.J. also had games where he shot 9 for 22, 11 for 23, 6 for 19, and 5 for 19 in the final clinching game. Of course he won Finals MVP and deservedly so.

Very nice post.

There is no doubt Bryant deserved MVP, the only other person even close would be Gasol.
 

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Yeagermeister;3436971 said:
NBA yes
College BB most definitely YES!

:laugh2:

Living here in "Tobacco Road" we've seen it every time UNC or Duke has won a national title.
 

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MC KAos;3437006 said:
i actually agree with slate (i feel dirty saying that) i thought gasol deserved the MVP, but of course its kobe, they cant do that!

If you notice, I always preach.

It's my predictions that are god awful but I make excellent cases.

If we're talking most valuable player, it's Gasol or Bynum. We've seen this team WITH Kobe and without Bynum and it's completely different. If Bynum wasn't playing, then it would be 08 all over again. We got a glimpse of that game 4.

The Lakers won 2 games with an awful Kobe Bryant. Game 2 and game 7. He put up numbers that a 10th man on a team could do, but he gets all the credit. I'm baffled that he got MVP.
 

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Hoods;3437005 said:
Sure, you can start with rk's post:

Someone has to win the Finals MVP. Who else should get it, unless you are going to give it to someone from the losing team where no one played consistently well all 7 games either. Pierce was just average and Rondo only had 2 games with double-digit assists. Allen had one great game, one horrible game and several average games. Garnett had a few bad games, only one double-digit rebound game and averaged 6 RPG for the series. On the Lakers, the only other player really worthy of the MVP was Gasol and he disappeared in 2 of the 3 games in Boston. Bryant didn't have a series for the record books, but I can't imagine how people can question him being the MVP when he pulls down 11 and 15 rebounds in back to back elimination games to win the Finals and averages 28.6 PPG, 8 RPG, 3.9 APG and 2.1 Steals per game and shot 40%.

In 1996, in the finals against Seattle, Michael Jordan averaged 27.3 PPG, 5.33 RPG, 4.2 APG, and 1.7 Steals per game and shot 41%. M.J. also had games where he shot 9 for 22, 11 for 23, 6 for 19, and 5 for 19 in the final clinching game. Of course he won Finals MVP and deservedly so.

And where the hell was Kobe in games 2 and 7? That's pretty flawed logic bro. If we're talking about Gasol disappearing, then it's only fair to say the same thing about Kobe.

And the thing about that Jordan stat..there was no question that he was playing the best on his team. Can you honestly say that about Kobe?
 

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Lakers win their 16th thanks to major contributions form every Laker (incl the Black Mamba) over the course of 7 game. Consider your hatred embraced. ;)
 
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