Lame - teacher takes away pre-K's lunch and replaces with Chicken Nuggets

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iceberg;4424351 said:
except that is not what the child came in with - now you're changing the circumstances to justify getting away with telling people how to live. what that kid came to lunch with sounded very much like most of us had when we were kids.

why were nuggets better than the sandwich?

I don't think it would be. Turkey meat is probably actually somewhat still in its original form. I think notherbob was saying that chicken nuggets means that it's processed. So how is that proper nutrition at all? I ate badly as a kid, but I wish I hadn't had the "regulated" diet of the 1980s which contributed to my poor diet.
 

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burmafrd;4424569 said:
then they report them to child welfare. It is NOT the schools job to do anything ELSE.

Kinda like how Joe Paterno did his job by telling his superiors about Sandusky?

(No, the severity and gravity of this is not the same, but the idea is exactly the same.)

When is it ok to do just what is required, nothing more, and put blinders on to the reality of the situation? Maybe that's ok for you, but that's not ok for me.
 

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Faerluna;4424677 said:
Kinda like how Joe Paterno did his job by telling his superiors about Sandusky?

(No, the severity and gravity of this is not the same, but the idea is exactly the same.)

When is it ok to do just what is required, nothing more, and put blinders on to the reality of the situation? Maybe that's ok for you, but that's not ok for me.


you nanny state people really do not get it. I guess personal responsibility is a foreign concept. EVERYTHING must be done by the government.
 

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burmafrd;4424852 said:
you nanny state people really do not get it. I guess personal responsibility is a foreign concept. EVERYTHING must be done by the government.

Or, "you people" that can't be bothered to give a crap about anyone but yourself really don't get it, either.

As I said, I don't think that it needs to be legally mandated that they do this. However, there should be leeway when there is a significant need because that's what caring people do in civilized society.

I swear, you just read what you want to read and don't actually absorb anything that doesn't fit into your agenda.
 

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Faerluna;4424677 said:
Kinda like how Joe Paterno did his job by telling his superiors about Sandusky?

(No, the severity and gravity of this is not the same, but the idea is exactly the same.)

When is it ok to do just what is required, nothing more, and put blinders on to the reality of the situation? Maybe that's ok for you, but that's not ok for me.

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:
 

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Faerluna;4424859 said:
Or, "you people" that can't be bothered to give a crap about anyone but yourself really don't get it, either.

As I said, I don't think that it needs to be legally mandated that they do this. However, there should be leeway when there is a significant need because that's what caring people do in civilized society.

I swear, you just read what you want to read and don't actually absorb anything that doesn't fit into your agenda.

Then let "society take care of the problem. Not the government. It is not their job. If for some reason during the lunch box examination :rolleyes: They deem a lunch inappropriate, then let that teacher pop for the added lunch. If it is indeed the moral thing to do. Do you really want government legislating morality?

And WTH are they doing a lunch box inspection for anyway?
 

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Looks to me that the teachers should be looking around for the ones that don't have a lunch....
 

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iceberg;4424351 said:
except that is not what the child came in with - now you're changing the circumstances to justify getting away with telling people how to live. what that kid came to lunch with sounded very much like most of us had when we were kids.

why were nuggets better than the sandwich?

It was already reported that the teacher overreacted and should not have supplemented the meal. You are looking at an individual circumstance and assuming it is the norm.
 

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burmafrd;4424569 said:
then they report them to child welfare. It is NOT the schools job to do anything ELSE.

This is hilarious, instead of the government taking care of it at the lowest level you want them to escalate it so the government can take care of it at an unnecessarily high level. A poorly packed lunch is not a reason to report someone to child welfare. Some parents just need to be shown what types of foods to pack while others may count on the supplements to provide whatever is not packed. Calling child welfare will only make the problem worse and add more demand on an already overworked and mismanaged child welfare system.
 

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My state is currently piloting a "Universal Free Meal" program in selected counties and schools. Students receive two meals a day, breakfast and lunch. Considering the poverty level in the state, in many of these counties, the two meals are most likely the only decent nutritious meals kids get to eat. The overwhelming majority of these kids have hard working parent/s who just can't make enough money to make ends meet.
 

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ethiostar;4425108 said:
My state is currently piloting a "Universal Free Meal" program in selected counties and schools. Students receive two meals a day, breakfast and lunch. Considering the poverty level in the state, in many of these counties, the two meals are most likely the only decent nutritious meals kids get to eat. The overwhelming majority of these kids have hard working parent/s who just can't make enough money to make ends meet.

is it volunteer or automatic, where is the money coming from to pay for it, if they poverty is so bad?
 

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Cythim;4425043 said:
This is hilarious, instead of the government taking care of it at the lowest level you want them to escalate it so the government can take care of it at an unnecessarily high level. A poorly packed lunch is not a reason to report someone to child welfare. Some parents just need to be shown what types of foods to pack while others may count on the supplements to provide whatever is not packed. Calling child welfare will only make the problem worse and add more demand on an already overworked and mismanaged child welfare system.


you just do not get it.

Schools are not SUPPOSED to be in the child care business at any level.

What part of that are you not getting?

They are there to teach and that is all.

Free school lunches- if you are going to do that then just offer it.

No mandates and no food ****'s. But you nanny staters want the state to do everything. Because you are afraid to make judgements and decisions so you pass the buck.
 

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burmafrd;4425376 said:
you just do not get it.

Schools are not SUPPOSED to be in the child care business at any level.

What part of that are you not getting?

They are there to teach and that is all.

Free school lunches- if you are going to do that then just offer it.

No mandates and no food ****'s. But you nanny staters want the state to do everything. Because you are afraid to make judgements and decisions so you pass the buck.

Seriously? smh

We aren't talking about junior high or high school kids here, this was specifically a preschool class. These kids cannot look out for themselves so the responsibility falls on the school while they are there. No one is asking the schools to go into the home to make sure the kids get three square meals a day. No harm is being done to the kids to make sure they are getting what they need from a meal and it makes the school day easier as well fed children are easier to handle. They could just fix it all by saying no lunches packed from home but they prefer to give parents an option to provide lunch themselves.
 

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If some don't like the public schools, they can switch their children to private schools. If some don't like private or public schools, they have the option of home schooling.

It would help if parents cared more about how their kids are treated, taught and that someone actually cares for the welfare of their child when they are away from the house for a good portion of the day instead of getting butt sore about their own views on what the government should or should not do.

More caring about the kid, less ranting about the government. Some, it would seem, would rather bite their nose off to spite their face so to speak.

It is amazing to me that some get so upset with the idea that schools just want children to have a healthy and balanced meal option which in itself is a good bit of education value since health is a part of education...i mean most do go to health class and physical education.

But rant on if you must feed your need to be upset about something that actually helps the child. Just remember you do have other options like Private schools and home schooling.
 

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Cythim;4425487 said:
Seriously? smh

We aren't talking about junior high or high school kids here, this was specifically a preschool class. These kids cannot look out for themselves so the responsibility falls on the school while they are there. No one is asking the schools to go into the home to make sure the kids get three square meals a day. No harm is being done to the kids to make sure they are getting what they need from a meal and it makes the school day easier as well fed children are easier to handle. They could just fix it all by saying no lunches packed from home but they prefer to give parents an option to provide lunch themselves.

Besides the behavioral issues and fewer complaints about headaches and stomachaches, these programs have been shown to have a positive impact on student achievement.
 

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ethiostar;4425533 said:
Besides the behavioral issues and fewer complaints about headaches and stomachaches, these programs have been shown to have a positive impact on student achievement.

especially breakfast!
 
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